Cheating Sponsor ALERT
 

Dialup2.com owe me more than $200 in advertising revenue from their dialer program. This should have been paid back in January.

I'm not the only webmaster who hasn't been paid. Alex from dialup2 comes onto the boards trying to look like an honest guy "Yeah I'll get it sorted just shoot me an email etc etc" but then never responds to emails. I have even sent mail to Wolfshade when he first opened dialerclopedia, who forwarded the message to Alex and back to me. He then forwarded Alex's reply to me (we pay all honest webmasters just send me the acct#), yet I didn't hear anything after that.

$200 in ad revenue isn't a big deal, though I feel the need to warn other webmasters about these people. There is little point in crying over spilt milk - just be very careful, if it can happen to me with $200, there is no reason why it can't happen to anyone else with a much larger sum.

thanks for the warning LDInternet

i heard that even their checks bounce back



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Hi

Its alex here from Dialup2.

Its been since January and I have not heard of your name once. You havn't even spoken to me regarding this payment. You may not have recieved the check if it was posted. There could be many reasons.

Please send me a email with the details, I have solved every single other problem.

I do not appreciate you talking like this without proof and solving the problem. It really does not impress anyone, as we have been paying out clients for 2 years on time & every time.

We currently are not working on the dialers anymore.

Alex
Dialup2

Hi

If you can find me 1 instance where a check has bounced & unsolved I will give you $10,000 as a reward for finding me this!!.

And if you have a problem please email us to solve it. We always pay our clients, and all it takes is 1 email telling us the period you did not recieve, and it will be fixed up, with compensation if it was out fault.

Its since January and now its June, thats a long time not to mention a word to us. You sound like you are working for someone else and bad mouthing us. (oh well).

We aren't doing dialers anymore.

Alex
Dialup2.com

Damn I just can't resist posting a link to this picture: http://64.21.76.37/cartoons2001/0622.gif

[This message has been edited by julian (edited 06-29-2001).]

I don't trust you since you said like 5 times to my friend you are going to send the cash and you didn't . You said his dialer was to OLD !!! lol
It's YOUR JOB man to get new dialer.

I suggest u to don't use dialup 2 . I used to be in good terms with alex (long time ago) but now I think it became maybe too big for him or something.

julian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT !!!!! ;-))))

julian - can't stop laughing!!! great cartoon

best cartoon i have ever seen for months!

hehehe

Actually, dialers are a bit of a rip-off anyway (considering their exhorbitant rates), so isn't this a little hypocritical to start with?

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i've never been paid by any dailer company (including dailup2)

yeah... dialup2 owe me...
zcdi.net owe me...
fucking SELLYOURCALLS... etc...

Alex,

Proof? While you're here I'll point you in this direction.
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ub...ML/004169.html

Notice that the board doesn't have an edit button. There is no going back on what you say at AWI. And yes, Jensel is ME. Notice the ldinternet email address. And I can promise you that there is much more than $57.81 on that account, considering all the UK minutes and US minutes that had accumulated - may I point out - from ONE gallery!

You'll notice that I had followed this up with an email. Before this I had contacted you three times via email. Not a single reply. Not a check. That was posted on the 31ST OF MARCH and still no pay. I later emailed you twice, without reply. I then posted to wolfshade at dialerclopedia, who forwarded your reply back to me. I sent my details and not a single reply since.

Pay people what they are rightfully owed.

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ub...ML/004783.html http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ub...ML/006286.html

And another that I've just found.
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ub...ML/000565.html

Ok so your pissed about not getting paid. Switch to another sponsor that will pay you...

I work for Sextracker's MoneyTree. We just launched a dialer program. We have one of the highest payouts on the web up to $.75 check it out at http://moneytree.sextracker.com/. We pay every two weeks and never miss.
Our dialer program is FTC compliant, we host all the files on our network so you never have to worry about updates, bandwidth or latency issues. We have also just launched a referal program so you can make 10% off other WebMasters you refer.

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Errrrrrr? Thank you Ethan, but I stopped using dialers a long time ago. That money is owed from December/January.

Thankfully FetishCash, ShawInternet, TopCash, CEN, CyberAge, FreeNetPass, MaxCash, ARS and AdultCheck have all seen fit to pay me.

please delete this and the one below....I wanted to edit the first message I posted but accidently used the reply button



[This message has been edited by julian (edited 06-29-2001).]

sorry..I used the wrong button to edit my original message!

[This message has been edited by julian (edited 06-29-2001).]

Sooner or later your going to be reading on one of these webmaster boards about some sponsor that has become a statistic. Hell it might be over just $10.00. Some of these guys
just will not or can not learn to stop screwing people.
I read in the paper a few years ago about two (2) guys who started some kind of sporting supply business and it became very successful and they had NO ideal what to do, you see they started it as a CON. The dam thing was making all kinds of money, so they took what money there was in the bank and ran. The court took over the business and as far as I know it's still making money.

You know it's a lot more work to figure out how to screw people out of there money than if you did it honestly (made the money).

Jim

Hmm nice replies. If you look back its about 2 or 3 people who have not got paid, and there is a REASON why they have not got paid.

Your check was cashed in without any prolems, why should we issue another one? You have never contacted me directly to fix it up, or even asked us to send you additional payments. Do you have child porn on your pages? that could be another reason.. were you using the word free?.

Anyway if you don't like it, go somewhere else, we always pay our clients on time & every time. You must have absolutely nothing to do than complain on a message board about money from January, if that was the case I would expect a email or message regarding the problem.

Thank You

Alex
Dialup2.com

Nah, no illegal shit here. The check wasn't cashed because I never received it. In fact, thanks for reminding me - I've just found the (attempted) email conversation with Wolfshare at dialerclopedia.com

This should be read from the bottom to the top.


---------- starts here ------------

Alex,

It's not for me, I'm wolfshade from dialerclopedia
(you know? the all dialer resource where your program is listed among the
trusted dialers that pay*HINT HINT)

One of your clients mailed me this email I forwarded you(gues I"ll forward
this reply to him then*LOL*)

And requested to have dialup2 blacklisted on my resource.

A step that drastic has to be investigated first offcourse so I contacted
you http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif


Your client's accounts is: 99922559
That should tell you who he is.

and this is the email addy he mailed me with: [email protected]

I think this is a matter you two can sort out amongst yourselfs ;-)

Contact him Alex ;-)

Cheers,
Wolfshade http://www.dialerclopedia.com

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Dialup2.com" <[email protected]>
Aan: "E. Overberg" <[email protected]>
Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 21:41
Onderwerp: Re: Dialup2 are NOT PAYING!


> HI offcourse we pay for all minutes- whats the problem?
> Please list all your details.
>
> Thank You.
>
> Alex
> Dialup2.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E. Overberg" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 1:47 AM
> Subject: Fw: Dialup2 are NOT PAYING!
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > It seems I have an angry affiliate of yours on my hands.
> > He recommends I list you on my dialer blacklist.
> >
> > Those are steps I do not take lightly so I see it as my obligation to
> inform
> > you about this matter
> >
> > Care to comment on and/or resolve this?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Wolfshade
> > Dialerclopedia http://www.dialerclopedia.com
> > [email protected]
> >
> > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > Van: "LD INTERNET" <[email protected]>
> > Aan: <[email protected]>
> > Verzonden: vrijdag 23 maart 2001 23:27
> > Onderwerp: Dialup2 are NOT PAYING!
> >
> >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I signed up with dialup2 in November of 2000 and was sent the dialer
by
> > > email a few days later.
> > >
> > > I put it on one thumbnail gallery and submitted it to over 160
different
> > > tgps, keeping well within the rules of the dialup2 program. I did not
> use
> > > the word "free" or even hint at it. The gallery content was completely
> > legal
> > > - in fact, it was provided by AgeCheck's (now CyberAge) webmaster
> content
> > > resource at http://www.cybersexnetwork2.com/download.html.
> > >
> > > Since NovemberI have made the minimum
> > > payment of $50, but have not received my check. Therefore, I deleted
the
> > > gallery and emailed dialup2 support with the following message...
> > >
> > > ------------
> > > FAO: Accounting Department
> > > I have not received payment on account #99922559.
> > >
> > > This account has been open since November, and accumulated the minimum
> > > cheque amount ($50) many periods ago.
> > >
> > > Please correct this as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > With thanks,
> > > [email protected]
> > > ------------
> > >
> > > They are not responding to my emails. I enclose an screenshot of my
> stats
> > > page showing the minutes that the gallery had made before I deleted it
> > > (please see the attatched file). I have not been paid for these
minutes.
> > My
> > > account number with dialup2 is 99922559.
> > >
> > > I am just thankful that the owed amount was not much larger. Even so,
I
> > > earned this money and dialup2 will not pay. They owe me, and there is
no
> > > reason for them not to pay. I believe that they are commiting fraud -
I
> > > earned the money yet they will not pay, and they will not respond to
my
> > > emails.
> > >
> > > With thanks,
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________ _______________________
> > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at
> http://www.hotmail.com.
> > >
> >
> >
>

I'd like to see Dialup2 in the hall of shame.

Additionally, I'd like to see Dialup2 on the Dialerclopedia blacklist.

Btw, I'm now with DialerKing and getting paid every time.

Anyone looking for an HONEST dialer that does really pay, click here -
http://www.dialerking.com/

ldinternet:

Your aggressive moves are not helping solve the problems. I checked out your account in Janaury and money was sent and cashed in. You may have got mixed up with another sponsor.

I do not appreciate your lame talk, your going too far. You have NEVER attempted to resolve the problem with me directly. You made $50 over about 10 periods , that may be why it was not automaticly issued. As of now i leave YOU to decide who is right and who is wrong, and you to show me the truth behind the whole thing.

We wish you best of luck with dialerking or so. Let us know when you don't get paid!

We are no longer working with dialers so you say what you want to say. And offcourse you have never spoken to me once, it won't get you NO WHERE!. Its all fun, isn't it?

Thank You

Alex
Dialup2.com

There is more than $50 owed to me, considering the hundreds of USA and UK mintes.

Kind of funny when you think of it, 'cause I've never received an invisible check before.

Let's think of the sponsors that have always paid me... hmm... including the ones that I missed last time.

Cash Tour
Fetish Cash
Sic Cash
Amateur & Teen Kingdom
Private Lolita
Dialer King
Cyber Age
Adult Check
Free Net Pass
Sweet Entertainment
Pay Counter
ARS
Standard Internet
True Cash
Helmy Cash
Max Cash
TopCash/TopBucks
CEN

And those that have never paid me...
Dialup2.com

Very interesting.

In fact I'm holding my nice Diamond International check right now. It's a nice big one. It's sweet to be paid. What a nice warm sensation.

You should try paying your webasters once in a while, Alex.

Damn I almost forgot, AEA Network also paid me.

dragoncash has never paid me !
http://cash.angrydragon.com/stats.shtml

ez12

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