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European Lee 08-21-2004 03:46 PM

Why Dont More Designers Have Their Own Paysites
 
You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

detoxed 08-21-2004 03:46 PM

because they are morons

WiredGuy 08-21-2004 03:47 PM

Maybe they don't have an interest in managing paysites, at least that's my reason for not owning a paysite.

WG

BRISK 08-21-2004 03:49 PM

Paysites are all about content, design is the easy part.

EscortBiz 08-21-2004 03:49 PM

most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

nothing nada

I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

some people will never learn

Jdoughs 08-21-2004 03:51 PM

The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .


Do you really need to ask this question??

EscortBiz 08-21-2004 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jdoughs
The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .


Do you really need to ask this question??

lay down the pipe

Peaches 08-21-2004 03:53 PM

IIRC, isn't FletchXXX opening a paysite?

tootie 08-21-2004 03:54 PM

I do :)

AdultNex 08-21-2004 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

nothing nada

I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

some people will never learn

Who said designers always pump out "Flashy" websites?

http 08-21-2004 03:54 PM

What I really wonder is why paysite operators do not design. Lensman could make tgp templates on the side and make a fortune with it

Jdoughs 08-21-2004 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
lay down the pipe
Not me on the pipe...i understand why designers dont run paysites...or atleast why most dont. Like my anology above, they dont run paysites because they are designers, not program owners.

FlyingIguana 08-21-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

concentrate on what you do best

EscortBiz 08-21-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
Who said designers always pump out "Flashy" websites?
Can you read?

I said "Most"

The Truth Hurts 08-21-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee


Time, money, effort...

and not necessarily in that order.

fris 08-21-2004 03:58 PM

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mcmc 08-21-2004 04:04 PM

im working on it ... should be ready in about 3 weeks :) :thumbsup

AdultNex 08-21-2004 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
Can you read?

I said "Most"

Who said most? I know of about 3-4 designers that focus on Flash-based paysites.

... And who said "flashy" sites don't convert?

dennisthemenace 08-21-2004 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jdoughs
The same reason that race car drivers dont fly planes, and carpenters arent electricians .


Do you really need to ask this question??

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The Truth Hurts 08-21-2004 04:10 PM

know what happens when designers try to do their own paysites....? Maximum Revenue happens : )

BRISK 08-21-2004 04:11 PM

OK, so a designer can fire up photoshop and crank out designs all day long every day.

So where is the high quality exclusive content coming from? Can they make that in photoshop too?

Juicy D. Links 08-21-2004 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
lay down the pipe

thats what the chicks tell me :Graucho

Reak 08-21-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

nothing nada

I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

some people will never learn


You're right :thumbsup

KRL 08-21-2004 04:14 PM

Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.

The Truth Hurts 08-21-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.
Hey look... someone finally got it right.

tootie 08-21-2004 04:20 PM

I personally love the business side AND the creative side. Not eveyone can do that, though, for sure.

AkiraSS 08-21-2004 04:22 PM

our shit converts...
- Lesbian Video Delights
- Wet Anette
- Pregnant Sorority
- EPornClips

Sharky 08-21-2004 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
know what happens when designers try to do their own paysites....? Maximum Revenue happens : )
HAHAHAHAHHA! Good One!



Quite simply, time and conflict of interest.

Would you open up your business secrets to someone who is actively competing against you?

European Lee 08-21-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sharky
Would you open up your business secrets to someone who is actively competing against you?
Yes i do it daily on our resource community and have turned that help into a successful business of its own ;)

Regards,

Lee

stocktrader23 08-21-2004 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex


... And who said "flashy" sites don't convert?

me

stocktrader23 08-21-2004 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
most designers in this business know nothing about creating a site that converts

nothing nada

I can take any high end designed site and turn it into something that doesnt look ll that flash and add readable fuckin text and change the flow of things and turn your signups up by 100%

some people will never learn

Amen.

pornstar2pac 08-21-2004 04:43 PM

that's like asking, how come more drummers aren't singers?...

Doctor Dre 08-21-2004 07:52 PM

Paysites are a lot of work and money . Designers are mostly artist and are unorganised

mardigras 08-21-2004 07:54 PM

Some people are artists
Some people are salesmen
With some people
Never the twain shall meet

mammy 08-22-2004 01:53 AM

paysites main thing not in design and content
designer of course can buy content like other people too ;)

thing is in managment and marketing
not all designers have enough skills to generate traffic

Roald 08-22-2004 01:55 AM

Because opening up phostoshop and create a design is totally diffrent than create the design, get the content, manage the site, manage affiliates, update the site, manage payments, etc etc

I am working on it though as I think someone need to expand and look a bit further than photoshop :thumbsup

Btw Bruno is running a paysite and Dickmansdesign

Roald 08-22-2004 01:57 AM

btw I totally dislike the ideas some people have about designers in this threat :2 cents:

dirtydesignz 08-22-2004 02:01 AM

I do :)

mind 08-22-2004 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
You would think that they would have a heap of the damn things each making money as a supplemental income to the design work they do :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

How many assemply workers at ferrari do you think own and drive a ferrari?

Just because you can make something - dosen't mean you need to own one.

Manowar 08-22-2004 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
OK, so a designer can fire up photoshop and crank out designs all day long every day.

So where is the high quality exclusive content coming from? Can they make that in photoshop too?

maybe do some 3d or cartoon content ? :1orglaugh

BlueDesignStudios 08-22-2004 06:54 AM

Yo Lee.. hit me up man.. lets get that site of your finished :glugglug

MichaelP 08-22-2004 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Almost every designer I've met are creative types, not business types. They enjoy creating artistic work not running a business.
EXACTLY :thumbsup

Mysef I am a designer. I know that sites I do for customers convert. Why? cause they also have good traffic...

Actually I am not a traffic guy, I am an artist. PERIOD.

You can't be excellent at everything anyway :2 cents:

Orga 08-22-2004 07:25 AM

Huh . Paysite design is just :2 cents:
Why programmers don't write own OS ? :1orglaugh

Sharky 08-22-2004 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Yes i do it daily on our resource community and have turned that help into a successful business of its own ;)

Regards,

Lee

You are one of the few still doing it. lol. and admit, you don't give away ALL your secrets!

European Lee 08-22-2004 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sharky
You are one of the few still doing it. lol. and admit, you don't give away ALL your secrets!
If im asked i do ;)

But it asking the right questions that many webmasters dont understand ;)

Regards,

Lee

Jakke PNG 08-22-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by qwebecexpo

You can't be excellent at everything anyway :2 cents:

I am.

BlueDesignStudios 08-23-2004 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
Yo Lee.. hit me up man.. lets get that site of your finished :glugglug
bump... shoot me an email Lee.. lets get the European Webmasters site sorted


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