One of the vets that has been calling Kerry a liar now proven to be a liar
 

The truth begins to come out about these lying pricks.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Aug18.html

Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most vocal critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate of lying about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own version of events.

In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came under fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March 13, 1969. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.

But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released yesterday to The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act, contain several references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at "all units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won his own Bronze Star that day, and the citation praises him for providing assistance to a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."

As one of five Swift boat skippers who led the raid up the Bay Hap River, Thurlow was a direct participant in the disputed events. He is also a leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public advocacy group of Vietnam veterans dismayed by Kerry's subsequent antiwar activities, which has aired a controversial television advertisement attacking his war record.

In interviews and written reminiscences, Kerry has described how his 50-foot patrol boat came under fire from the banks of the Bay Hap after a mine explosion disabled another U.S. patrol boat. According to Kerry and members of his crew, the firing continued as an injured Kerry leaned over the bow of his ship to rescue a Special Forces officer who was blown overboard in a second explosion.

Last month, Thurlow swore in an affidavit that Kerry was "not under fire" when he fished Lt. James Rassmann out of the water. He described Kerry's Bronze Star citation, which says that all units involved came under "small arms and automatic weapons fire," as "totally fabricated."

"I never heard a shot," Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was released by Swift Boats Veterans for Truth. The group claims the backing of more than 250 Vietnam veterans, including a majority of Kerry's fellow boat commanders.

A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG THURLOW completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the disabled boat and its crew. The citation states that all other units in the flotilla also came under fire.

"It's like a Hollywood presentation here, which wasn't the case," Thurlow said last night after being read the full text of his Bronze Star citation. "My personal feeling was always that I got the award for coming to the rescue of the boat that was mined. This casts doubt on anybody's awards. It is sickening and disgusting."

Thurlow said he would consider his award "fraudulent" if coming under enemy fire was the basis for it. "I am here to state that we weren't under fire," he said. He speculated that Kerry could have been the source of at least some of the language used in the citation.

In a telephone interview Tuesday evening after he attended a Swift Boat Veterans strategy session in an Arlington hotel, Thurlow said he lost his Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he was unwilling to authorize release of his military records because he feared attempts by the Kerry campaign to discredit him and other anti-Kerry veterans.

this is getting a very dirty race

I really can't wait for the debates on TV. :glugglug

Bush sponsored this fake ad

Won't debate... It is going to be:

" you are either with me ... or you are a terrorist "


That's is the extent of comprehension of your actual leader.

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a warloving guy with a iq of 10 is the pres of the united states.. thats very disgusting

Wait, the NY TImes is trying to discredit people that don't like Kerry? What a shocker!

Screw Kerry, He lied about plenty of his "war exploits", he lied before a senate panel commitee about going into Cambodia; Hell, just the other day, in answer to questions about his attendence record with the senate intelligence commitee meetings, (which he has refused to be released), he tried to claim that he was vice-chairman of the commitee, when it was actually BOB Kerry.


The guy will say ANYTHING in order to get into office.....he has no firm stand or any principles on any issue. He isn't even supported in his home state.
IMHO he has no character.

Hey dumbass, its the Washington Post, not the NY Times.

And its obvious who will say anything and lie about anything to stay in office. Pull your head out of your ass.

Is this a different one than the one who already came out that he had lied in his affidavit? Or the same guy?

but he was in vietnam while bush was drinking ice tea on his daddy's ranch :2 cents:

Oh please.....These guys have been saying this stuff about Kerry for YEARS.....but no one was paying attention....

and as for Bush paying for it... Nothing compares to the millions that George Soros is POURING into anti bush attack ads on behalf of the Kerry campaign.


please:disgust

Yeah...The vice presidential debate is gonna be sweet

Kerry didnt claim that he was bob kerey, some underling did and retracted it all over the news instantly, lol. The news of the retraction was more widely spread than the mistake itself, lmao.

What ever you say.

Why do the left wing people on this board always have to go straight for personal attacks? Aren't you capable of debating a point without jumpiing right into purile personal comments?

"I'm George Bush, and I approve these lies."

First off it was the Washington Post and secondly I love it when the sheep just believe what they hear on FOX. All political bullshit aside W gets another 4 yrs plan on finding new employment.

So why hasn't he agreed to have his senate intelligence attendance records released ?

When a 527 ad came out comparing bush to hitler, John Kerry publicly decried the ad and asked them to stop playing it on his behalf, which they did.
When a 527 ad came out calling kerry's service record into question, Bush decried the ad and said he didnt make it, so he can't stop it from playing. Even pressure from his own party wouldnt make him publicly ask that it be pulled. Even in an interview almost a full month after the ad came out, Bush and his Wifey said they hadn't seen the ad, so wouldn't make any comment on it.

Yeah, it's clear who the dirty liar are here. :1orglaugh

http://in.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids_ne...3959611426.jpg hello my name is richie bush... i don't want to fight for my country.. the poor fucks can do this.. my daddy keeps me off :) time for a beer now

The Sheep? FOX news? You no nothing about the sources that I scan to get information, and the fact that I don't agree with your political views doesn't make me a sheep....

Frankly, from my point of view, the Left wing that will only listen to sources that they agree with, that will believe ANYTHING as long as it sounds good to them, without digging into all sides of the situation, are far more sheeplike

BTW.....What about the other 249 veterans that say that Kerry is full of it? Are they all Liars too?



Just wondering.....

And what sources might that be? The left doesnt have a Rush Limbaugh or a Fox News. Not to mention 95% of all talk radio is nothing more than right wing propaganda.

does anyone have any bush owned pics?

I need to stock up :)

One thing that really bugs me about Bush is that he never reads newspapers and seems to never be in touch with things that are directly affecting him. Why woud you not take 30 seconds to look at an ad that so many people are asking you to decry?

The minute you say left I know you are a sheep lol Thats what the pundits call everyone that doesnt agree with them . lol Start polishing up the resume now, W wins monster.com will be your new favorite website . lol

So you're saying that your only source of information is US based TV and Radio?


Wow.....you really may want to try broadening your horizons. You could even try reading....:2 cents:

Because he backs it thats why, do you really think he doesnt know the guy who is giving this group all this money? lol

hahaha

as i said, jealous pissed off republicans who hate Kerry for being anti-vietnam upon his return, hell this guy is a member of a group again them!

the guy probably fucks his daughter

I'm really beginning to think right wingers are incapable of intelligent thought. You said the left only listens to sources it agrees with, I'm asking you what those sources are.

Have you paid any attention at all to the following:?

That the anti porn legistion is being initiated on BOTH sides of the house and Senate....Democrat and Republican alike.

That the anti porn legistlation that is being put into place across the world, (China, Australia, the UK, etc, etc, etc, ) is getting dramatically tougher (much tougher in than in the US)

I know that you love to use Bush as your whipping boy for our industrie's issues, but the facts just don't back you up.

Kerry is playing dirty on bush ? I don't think so

It's convenient. Simple people need simple answers else they look too simple when questioned about even simple things.

Bush lied for 5 years now ... enough of the bull

Word

I said it from the first time Bush ran for office and I'll say it again.

If you can look at George W Bush for 4 years in a row and not know that he is one of the biggest dumbasses on this planet then there is no hope for you. (The smart people figured it out the first time they saw him)

A bumbling fucking idiot that's been a bumbling idiot his entire life. To think that half of this country voted for him whether out of blindness or just to vote within their party speaks volume about where this country is at. I bet this guy didn't tie his own shoe's until he was 10.

Even if your stupid ass doesn't keep up with politics or how things work you should damn sure recognize a complete fuck up when you see one. If you can look at Bush and not recognize how big of a moron he is go look in the mirror. You'll see a perfect example of what a moron is so next time you see one you might notice.

And to you motherfuckers voting for someone that doesn't have the mental capacity to realize how much he fucks up just because you can't "vote outside your party lines" Go Fuck Yourself. Fucking Satan could run for President as a Republican and he could already count on a vote from all of you.

Sad, sad world we live in. I think it's time for another great flood to clean up the gene pool.

Johnny A who paid to cover up the statue of justice. It is a fact less adult porn persecutions happen during Dem admins.if 911 didnt happen the ax would of fell quicker. The hiring of Bruce Taylor, this was done by the DOJ not congress. If it wasnt for the clinton years most of the people here would be working at Starbucks or Compusa. You have a President who called porn a blight on society. Are you fucking kidding me, wake the fuck up.

You like to read here:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal...home-headlines

Cat got your tongue lol

Don't you get it? You aren't presenting points, you're presenting right wing talking points and they'll all lies.

People don't need to babysit you until you realize that Bush is the fucking liar. Like he said, pull your head out of your ass, and think for yourself.

God I love bullshit, it's almost like you actually believe the shit that's coming out of your mouth.

Of course if you were being serious you would have said the obvious, that Ashhahahahaha is the anti-war crusader who's going to put all US pornographers out of a job if they get another term.

I know that no one is stupid enough to not see that the current attorney general is the biggest risk to this business since the days of Larry Flint's fight. I mean, it's got to be impossible to be that stupid.

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A Fucking Men!

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what a douchebag