Jet Li vs. Bruce Lee - who would win ?
 

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Im sure Bruce Lee, his a legend he invented Jet Li :glugglug
Bruce Lee had it in his blood, I believe his only mission in life was to optimize his body for combat.

Bruce Lee would fuck batman up.

Chuck Norris!

Tie!

jet li isnt shit.

jackie chan is a choreographer, these guys cant fight like the Dragon

Jet Li (Lee) gee wonder who he is jocking

bruce lee

no, cause we'll never know

They would not fight and just hug each other.

Bruce Lee had multiple real experiences actually fighting for his life. I don't know much about Jet Li. Has he had "real" combat?

have you any real idea what Jet Li has done and how he grew up?

Bruce Lee might lose because he is dead.

discuss.

Bruce Lee was a combat fighter, Jet Li is a wire dancer. When Jet Li starts doing hand to hand expositions, then maybe he would be slightly comparable, but at this time I think you'd have to go with the proven talents of Bruce!
http://www.ibrewster.com/gallery/alb..._Bruce_Lee.jpg

Jackie Chans fat buddy.

he is not bruce Lee thats for sure.

bruce lee would win


he was trained using a fighting method. Jet Li was trained using Wushu, a non fighting art.

Bruce Lee hands down

Chuck Norris would win.

umm jet li is much faster and is working according to newest discoveries in anatomy

just my 2 cents, I have no idea who would win

Royce Gracie.

Bruce Lee

I think Kareem would kick the shit out of the both of them. Kareem lost to Bruce cause Bruce was the star of the movie.:thumbsup

will there be nunchucks? What about other weapons?
Are we talking both at their prime?
Will jet li fold out of fright when he see's bruce lee standing in front of him? (an idol and a dead one at that)

Bruce trained kareem in oakland. Back when brothers could not get trained. Hell even whitey had it rough.

The script would probably call for a draw.

On the contrary.

I think it would be like putting Mike Tyson in the ring with John L. Sullivan.

Okay- Chuck Norris -VS- Stephen Segal ?
http://2100.com/aikido/segalface.jpg

how about Bruce Lee vs. Pei Mei ?

Bruce Lee would wipe the floor with his face

Bruce Almighty :1orglaugh

bruce lee

Bruce could definitely fuck some shit up. Those other big hollywood guys will always be in his shadow.

Jet Li:Graucho

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Bruce Lee would open a can of whoop ass on Jet Li

Bruce! :thumbsup

Yeah he's had real combat experience...

That work resulted in championships in 1975, 1977 and 1978. Finally, in 1979, Li received his highest achievement in martial arts when he was crowned Gold Champion at the Chinese National Martial Arts Competition. To this date no other man has won more titles.

Jet Li's celebrity in China was so great, that the government selected him to represent the country in over 45 countries by performing martial arts at various state functions.

http://www.askmen.com/men/entertainm...2c_jet_li.html

BRUCE FUCKING LEE

Jet Li:
School: (1971) Beijing Sports and Exercise
Awards:
(1974) Youth National Athletic Competition: Gold
(1975) 3rd National Games: Gold
(1977) National Martial Arts Competition: Gold
(1978) National Martial Arts Competition: Gold
(1979) 4th National Games: Gold
(1974 - 79) Internaional Guest Performer for Beijing Martial Arts team.

It was 1971 and the academic year was at an end, however the summer meant compulsory sports school for Lian-Jie and other schools in the Beijing district. It was now Lian-Jie was to begin a lifelong relationship with the martial art Wushu. To which the young boy remarked,
?Oh. What is martial arts? I don?t know. Tell me and I?ll learn?. Wushu turned out to be the military style kung fu martial art which combined theatrical grace and choreography with speed and agility.
For a novice Lian-Jie?s introduction to Wushu was a successful one. Having been selected for further training as well as normal schooling. The rapid riser fought in his first competition aged nine. With the award for excellence under his belt, Lian-Jie was now in increased daily training in preparation to represent his country.
The Pan Asian African Latin American Table Tennis Championship was the occasion for which Lian-Jie and his Wushu group would perform a pre games showcase. The pressure was intense.
?Practice was impossibly tiring, our motherland was expecting us to give a performance that was nothing less than perfect. We rehearsed the forms and routines countless times?. Even as a youngster Lian-Jie was aware of this vast responsibility. Needless to say he did not disappoint and the rewards were great, bestowed with the honour of meeting the Prime Minister Zhou En-lai, not to mention full time enrolement into the Beijing Sports and Exercise School.
Lian-Jie was expected to attend the exercise school six days a week, returning home on Sundays. His time at the school was set into strict guidelines. The daily routine began with a loud bell at 6 am, where pupils had to present themselves outside promptly. Following an hours training, washing and breakfast led into a long session until midday. Rest followed, however this was punctuated with display performances for visiting tourists who were announced via loudspeaker. Following more training, dinner, extra practice was warranted at 7 30 pm until 10 30 pm. This routine was to become the mainstay of Lian-Jie?s life for the next three years.
Before long, Lian-Jie was excelling at this admittedly punishing regime. His success was now being nurtured by trainer and coach Wu Bin, a former graduate of Beijing Sports University Wushu Department in 1963.
This man was to become instrumental in developing the lightening fast accuracy we associate with Li. Not only did Wu Bin pass on his own philosophy, but academic teachings. Representing a father figure to Lian-Jie he instilled education, integrity and confidence. Li recalls how he influenced his youth.
?He helped me steer clear of all obstacles and encouraged me never to give up. His admonitions and his patience in guiding me along will always remain in my heart of hearts?.
Wu Bin?s treatment although fair was still harsh. The coach being fully aware of how far to push Lian-Jie. The genuine care and high regard they held for each other went far beyond a typical teacher-pupil relationship. He often provided food packages to the struggling family after discovering an absence of meat in the diet was causing Lian-Jie to underperform his kicks and strikes.


Under Wu Bin?s tutillage Lian-Jie became accomplished at integrating kicking, punching, swordplay and agility into different Kung Fu styles. In addition to manipulating inner energy, chi he developed skills in monkey, dragon, crane and gun boxing.
For the first time in his life Lian-Jie learned to rationalise and philosophise about his unfortunate start in life. Now, Li tells of his early dissent,
?I felt that society wasn?t fair to me ? that I had been dealt a bad hand. In comparing my circumstances with others, I brought a lot of unhappiness upon myself which in turn caused many emotional ups and downs?.
He learned to master these issues with a new sense of perception. Three years passed to see Lian-Jie become a true artisan in his field.

In 1974 he was considered of sufficient talent to allow him entry to the Youth National Athletic Competition. With eighteen the upper age limit, the eleven year old won the highest accolades. Excelling at all that Wu Bin had taught him, including swordsmanship, boxing and spearplay etc.
Having now excited media attention, Lian-Jie was invited to be part of a Wushu group to partake in a goodwill tour of the USA. After taking in NYC and San Francisco the group found themselves performing on the White House lawn for President Richard Nixon. Following a magnificent two man display, a suitably impressed President Nixon approached Lian-Jie
?How would you like to be my bodyguard when you grow up??. To this he replied,
?Nope. I don?t want to protect one person. When I grow up I want to protect billions of Chinese people?.
Of course this made world news and made Lian-Jie a national celebrity with his pleasing show of patriotism.
With an abundantly growing physical skill, Lian-Jie accumulated competition wins. In 1975 China staged its 3rd National Games, which placed the spotlight upon Lian-Jie?s upcoming performance. At age twelve he won first place in all five events.
1977 saw Lian-Jie win his second gold medal at China?s National Martial Arts Competition. He replicated the performance in 1978, adding another gold medal to his trophy cabinet. In 1979 he was again a winner of the Chinese Olympic games, the 4th National Games.
1979 was to prove to be a year of change for Lian-Jie, as an opportunity came his way to live up to his film idol, Bruce Lee.

Jackie Chan!:Graucho

"fuckin chuck norris" classic line from Dodeball :1orglaugh

but anyways.. the 1inch punch from Bruce!! they say his punch would knock a guy clear cross the room.

Bruce lee would knock his ass out. Jet Li is more of a look then full frontal action.

Bruce would never use nunchuku in a real fight, he actually hated the weapon, said it was flashy and wasted to much time and energy, was not direct enough. But he knew the flash would be loved be the crowd and so it made it into the movie.

You should tell some wushu artists that they are not the real deal, i think they would change your mind quickly. Much like Capoeria the art is full of trickery, speed and deception not brute force (angolan capoeria not regional which is capoeria and shotokan mixed) Put a Wu shu steel Broad sword, a tai chi sword or a whip chain in the hands of one of these guys and you will be mesmorized with how many angles they can effectively hit you from all at one time.

Anatomy and kinetics have not changed that much in the last 30 years, no advantage there

Bruce grew up as an unskilled street fighter then under Yip Man learned Wing Chun for his protection since he was a bit of a hot head in his early age and also small. Jet on the other hand as posted before did it first as something to do and then just fell in love with the martial way. He has less "real world" fight experience but does have some. He like Jackie are advocates of fighting only when you really really have to including taking hits to remove yourself from the situation, something that Bruce would have thought a travisty.

speed and power must me mixed to have the best possible chance of delivering a blow. Jun Fan Jeet Kun Do was split into a few key elements two of the most important ones had to do with speed differances in fighters. Jun Fan was about about both intercepting a strike and lauching a counter almost spontaneously thus giving no time for recovery once an opponent had dedicated themselves to a strike. This covered the defense but the art was not about sitting and letting someone strike at you like hapkido, large parts were about opening up holes and that depending on knowing if you were faster or slower than the other person so even if Jet was faster the art was set up for such scenarios.

You are correct bruce devoted much of his life to the art of fighting, doing little more than working both his mind and body to become perfect, trying to make a living and having his family with linda. He is what a true master should be modeled after. No insult to instructors, sefu, maestro or sensai out there but when I see 8 year olds walking around with black belts and 45 year old guys with 9-5's calling themselves masters, grand masters and Dans I just have to think how much lower the standards are here in the U.S.

This fight would not have been as spectacular looking as you think. Fights between real martial artists usually do not last long and there is not much flashyness to them, there are minimal throwing of strikes because those strikes have to count, this is not point sparring, you are trying to hurt the other person. Bruce had whittled down his striked to only 4-5 at the end, with the finger pokes being one of his favorites. This fight would last no longer than 3 minuits i would bet and probably would not go that long.

The one inch punch is not a strike that does much damage, it is mostly to stun an opponent and upset his timing and balance, it actually has very little to do with power also. The rib cage is bone and cartilidge set up in a, well, cage. By compressing the front end of the cage quickly and solidifying your stance the rib cage will act as a spring and the body will be catapulted off of your fist, it stuns you and stings a little but it is in no way a knock out strike, you could pummel a person by running in after the strike is delevired as the person tries to recover balance. His lunging side kick uses the same principals but had enough force to crack ribs and cause internal damage or joint seperation, this would knock you more than a few feet, the punch would push you about 2, the rest of the distance is from trying to get your feet back under yourself and/or rolling

There are a lot of myths out there and talk, if you really wanna know a lot about the man and the legends try to get media that is JKDN (Jeet Jun Do Nucleas) approved. This is an organization that tracks all registered Sefu who have direct liniage to the LA, Oakland and San Francisco Schools as well as media that has been checked for accuracy by his wife or Danny Inasato one of his closest friends.

as a matter of fact yes jet li has been a champion of full contact sports but

School: (1971) Beijing Sports and Exercise
Awards:
(1974) Youth National Athletic Competition: Gold
(1975) 3rd National Games: Gold
(1977) National Martial Arts Competition: Gold
(1978) National Martial Arts Competition: Gold
(1979) 4th National Games: Gold
(1974 - 79) Internaional Guest Performer for Beijing Martial Arts team.

but he can not say he invented a style like bruce lee did. and i am pretty sure he is not as fast as bruce was. two different styles may have been nice to see a match.

now THERE'S a fighter.

Actually no non chinese (Gui Lo or outsider) was allowed to train in any form of Gung Fu or Kung exercises. On the contrary blacks had already set up many prominant schools in California including the BKF or Black Karate Federation schools.

(BTW even though the name black was in the title the school was open to all races of man to train in, it was just historically started by blacks who had returned from Japan where they had learned Shotokan and wanted to teach discipline and self defense to all people able to make it to the dojo including whites and mexicans who have prominant rolls as organizers and champions as well as titles within their ranks to this day.)

Jim Kelly which was the black guy in Enter the Dragon was a graduate and grand master who had grown up and trained in the Oakland school which was the very dojo that was shown in the movie.

Bruce admits Kareem would be a hard man for him to beat because of the effective striking distance Kareem had and all the attention and training Bruce had given him and height differance involved was astrounding. That was actually his foot print on Bruce's chest in the movie! Interestingly enough Bruce said he did not think he could beat Ali in a fight.

Rickson Gracie has more ora then him :)


http://rickson.com/frame_history.html

I remember watching a biography about Bruce Lee. He fought this one guy and they actually fought for an entire hour. You know the guy the masters sent because Bruce was giving away too many secrets.

His MMA stats.

Name Rickson Gracie
Record 10 - 0 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)
Association Rickson Gracie Jiu-Jitsu
Height 5'10 (178cm)
Weight 185lbs (84kg)
Style Rickson Gracie Jiu Jitsu
Birth Date 11/20/1958
City Rio De Janeiro
Country Brazil


His last few fights he was paid 1 million bucks each fight.


That's Hella a lot in MMA>

impeccable undefeated record in more than 400 fights, Jiu-Jitsu tournaments, free-style wrestling, Sambo, open weight free-style competitions, and no holds barred challenge matches.

Bruce Lee for sure!!:thumbsup