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zdwebber 08-15-2004 07:39 AM

Thumb TGPs: 2257 Solutions.....
 
I have been talking to a few webmasters about this new 2257 stuff and a few solutions came to mind that have been talked about before.

1. Keep the Records
This seems so unbelievably complicated that I have rendered this out of the question.

2. Use only Non-Explicit thumbs
Probobly what most US-Based thumb tgp owners are doing. I have yet to find any specific guidlines. I have heard that naked pictures with no hardcore action should be fine, but it has not been confirmed yet.

3. Transfer ownership to an overseas friend
I wouldn't consider this plausible unless you really trusted this friend.

4. Host thumbs on different server
This is what I was planning on doing. Even Sixzeros (Comus Thumbs Author) said something to the effect of providing a service for Comus users to remotely host on a overseas server. A webmaster just told me this will not work. Just goes to show you how naive I am. :(

5. Convert to Text TGP
Probobly what quite a few of tgps are doing.


What are you doing as a US-based thumb tgp owner?

fris 08-15-2004 07:40 AM

i am canadian

eof

pradaboy 08-15-2004 07:57 AM

I'm EU based... does that mean the rules don't apply to me?

mardigras 08-15-2004 07:58 AM

Need to really drive #4 home to some people. It's amazing how after all the discussion that's taken place how many people still pop up and brush off everything with an "I'll just host offshore" response.

zdwebber 08-15-2004 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pradaboy
I'm EU based... does that mean the rules don't apply to me?
From what I have heard, this only effects US-Based owners.
Is your server in the US?

Jake 08-15-2004 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zdwebber
I have been talking to a few webmasters about this new 2257 stuff and a few solutions came to mind that have been talked about before.

1. Keep the Records
This seems so unbelievably complicated that I have rendered this out of the question.

2. Use only Non-Explicit thumbs
Probobly what most US-Based thumb tgp owners are doing. I have yet to find any specific guidlines. I have heard that naked pictures with no hardcore action should be fine, but it has not been confirmed yet.

3. Transfer ownership to an overseas friend
I wouldn't consider this plausible unless you really trusted this friend.

4. Host thumbs on different server
This is what I was planning on doing. Even Sixzeros (Comus Thumbs Author) said something to the effect of providing a service for Comus users to remotely host on a overseas server. A webmaster just told me this will not work. Just goes to show you how naive I am. :(

5. Convert to Text TGP
Probobly what quite a few of tgps are doing.


What are you doing as a US-based thumb tgp owner?

Sounds like you should have attended the "Legal Roundtable" in Hollywood yesterday. Three of the industries most prominent attorneys spent nearly 2 hours speaking and answering questions on this topic. They did an excellent job of clarifying common misconceptions about the new regs and explaining the potential impact of those regs, including how they may relate to Thumb TGP?s. I?m pretty sure all the seminars from the show will be available at avnonline. I highly recommend you take a look there!

zdwebber 08-15-2004 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mardigras
Need to really drive #4 home to some people. It's amazing how after all the discussion that's taken place how many people still pop up and brush off everything with an "I'll just host offshore" response.
Like me :(

zdwebber 08-15-2004 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jake
Sounds like you should have attended the "Legal Roundtable" in Hollywood yesterday. Three of the industries most prominent attorneys spent nearly 2 hours speaking and answering questions on this topic. They did an excellent job of clarifying common misconceptions about the new regs and explaining the potential impact of those regs, including how they may relate to Thumb TGP?s. I?m pretty sure all the seminars from the show will be available at avnonline. I highly recommend you take a look there!
Thanks :thumbsup

pradaboy 08-15-2004 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zdwebber
From what I have heard, this only effects US-Based owners.
Is your server in the US?

Yes it is

Thor 08-15-2004 08:20 AM

see sig to avoid problems with 2257

zdwebber 08-15-2004 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pradaboy
Yes it is
(Do not hold me to this) You need to be compliant with the new 2257 regulations if you, your server, or you business incorporation is US-based.

dready 08-15-2004 08:57 AM

Thumb script could easy add a record keeping database to be udated when someone submits.

zdwebber 08-15-2004 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dready
Thumb script could easy add a record keeping database to be udated when someone submits.
I was under the impression that records needed to be stored at your place of business, since you are the "producer"...

pradaboy 08-15-2004 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zdwebber
(Do not hold me to this) You need to be compliant with the new 2257 regulations if you, your server, or you business incorporation is US-based.
so if I would transfer everything to an EU server I would be safe right

Nubiles 08-15-2004 10:00 AM

We allow you to hotlink the thumbs of our hosted galleries, and we hold the records. Problem solved.

Nubiles

mardigras 08-15-2004 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pradaboy
so if I would transfer everything to an EU server I would be safe right
Only if you transferred yourself to EU as well:glugglug

Voodoo 08-15-2004 10:30 AM

I never started using thumb TGPs. :) Text links all the way.

pradaboy 08-15-2004 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mardigras
Only if you transferred yourself to EU as well:glugglug
lol pay a bit of attention, 2nd post I said I'm EU-based already :thumbsup

edit: errr.... third post that is. 2nd reply

Herb Kornfield 08-15-2004 10:43 AM

I have a nice solution for all things that you need :)

Its in the sig or here if sigs off

Get 2257 Organized here

jayeff 08-15-2004 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Drunkspringbreakgirls
We allow you to hotlink the thumbs of our hosted galleries, and we hold the records. Problem solved.

Nubiles

Problem not solved. If the thumbnails appear on my site, it is irrelevant where they are hosted or who by.

Quotealex 08-15-2004 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
i am canadian

eof

You may be suprised to know that there are FBI offices in Canada. Just being Canadian is not enough my friend. I you use a US host, domain registrar, sponsor, billing service, etc. you can still be targeted and face a 5 years prison term for just hosting a little "sexualy explict" thumb on your Thumbs Preview TGP...

gt68lt70 08-15-2004 12:03 PM

Anyone doing something about sponsor banners?

angelsofporn 08-15-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
You may be suprised to know that there are FBI offices in Canada. Just being Canadian is not enough my friend. I you use a US host, domain registrar, sponsor, billing service, etc. you can still be targeted and face a 5 years prison term for just hosting a little "sexualy explict" thumb on your Thumbs Preview TGP...
Your domain registrar has to be out of the US?

James White 08-15-2004 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angelsofporn
Your domain registrar has to be out of the US?

Diligent 08-15-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angelsofporn
Your domain registrar has to be out of the US?
A fact-based answer to this would be nice...

zdwebber 08-15-2004 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pradaboy
so if I would transfer everything to an EU server I would be safe right
My guess would be that you should be fine since you are already EU.
Haven't heard anything about having to have your processor, registar, etc all overseas-based...

darnit 08-15-2004 04:56 PM

http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=Web_Exclusive_Feature s&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=186842

A long but very informative article.

pradaboy 08-16-2004 11:09 AM

how about galleries, does it have any effect on simply hosting galls (and submitting?)

Reak 08-16-2004 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zdwebber

5. Convert to Text TGP
Probobly what quite a few of tgps are doing.

I cant wait.


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