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Taboo 08-10-2004 02:37 PM

Playing Domain Drop Game. PRD.com drops 8/11
 
Ran a "domain drop" test today and placed 6 domains (all from a vein that I'm still mining) into the following drop services to see which service is most effective:

Drop Services:

+Pool: $60 paid only if caught, if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction
+GoDaddy: $15, but only 1 backorder per domain, paid in advance, and get credit if not captured
+NameWinner: $30-$50 bids, extended auctions
+SnapNames: $60 paid only if caught, if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction
+Enom's Club Drop: $30-$50 bids, but if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction

fortunately I was able to get exclusive backorder at godaddy for all 6, so this was an almost perfect test.

Drop Scores:

+Pool: 0/6. never seen that before. glad though cause it's $60 a piece. SHOCKED.
+GoDaddy: 1/6. SHOCKED
+NameWinner: 1/6. for $30. suprised.
+SnapNames: 0/6. not suprised.
+Enom: 4/6. 1 is mine @ $30, 3 in auction. now I wish Pool got them for $60. :1orglaugh

Glean what you want from my test. I learn something new everday. While it pays to backorder everywhere, I would not have used Snapnames if they didn't change their business model this morning. At least now, you only pay if they catch the name. I may reveal the names later, only after auctions are over. but these names were not the best drops from today. so they weren't really a factor because there's less than 3 people bidding against me in each enom auction.

Ok. for those that want to test the waters of the DOMAIN DROP game...

tomorrow some good domains are dropping. one of the best is a 3 letter .com, which happens more often then you'd believe.

PRD.com

Now some of the haters will flame me, but I want to give you all a taste of how seductive, successful, addictive and frustrating this game can be...

so, go open accounts at:

SnapNames.com
Enom.com (join club drop)
Pool.com (sign up for your own affiliate code before adding domains)
NameWinner.com

some of the services may run a credit check of $60 to verify who you are, I'm not sure cause it's been ages since I joined.

But if you want to see how the game is played, you need to add PRD.com to your watch list at each service. You must do it before Noon (EST) tomorrow to be safe. And between 2-4 est you'll find out which service, if any of them captured the domain, and you can watch the price rise, probably far above $12,000. What's the point? It's a great way to learn the ropes without risking much if any money because none of us are getting it for $60 tomorrow :1orglaugh but we'll all have a chance to watch the same domain, a premium one, see which service catches it and discuss the auction in progress. Goodluck to all of you. Perhaps someone here may actually buy it in the end.

why PRD?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=prd
could stand for so much.

p= people,pet,porn,private,privacy, public, photo(grapher/phy),publishers,payment,preview etc...
r= review, restaurant, real estate, rent(al(s)), reply, resource, religion, etc...
d= digital,division,dept,database,domain,dealer etc...

Product Review Database
Porn Review Database
Parks Recreation Department
Press Release D...
Public Relations D...

perhaps some celebrity, CEO, or corporations initials that would pay handsomely for it.

quick flip, potential lawsuits/wipo, but perhaps plenty of ways around it because it stands for whatever you want. if I was still buying, this would be on my "must have" list. but I already spent too much this year on 3chars.

if you want to discuss it further, we've been discussing domains for days at this very focused and infopacked thread w/ over 5 pages:

investing in domains ...
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=4999765

I only posted a new thread because some people play drops, some buy outright from auction sites/owners. two different strategies.

wdsguy 08-10-2004 02:51 PM

grea info as always bro

chupachups 08-10-2004 03:26 PM

Very nice Taboo!:thumbsup

TheMob 08-10-2004 03:30 PM

which name did godaddy get you?

alexg 08-10-2004 03:37 PM

Good info :thumbsup

just let me get something straight,

when bidding on an expiring domain, you pay the $60 fee or whatever in order to participate, and then you bet (for example 10k), and you only pay the bet if you actually get the domain?

you do have to risk the $60 to participate, no matter if you win or not, right?

nametower 08-10-2004 05:00 PM

nah, only if you are the only one who backorders the name will you get it at $60

if more than one person picks the name it goes to the highest bidder.

(auction starts after the name has been sucessfully caught)

if you dont get the name, you dont pay $60.

Hope that helps.

xclusive 08-10-2004 06:19 PM

Thanks for posting this info it's very informative...

Illicit 08-10-2004 07:46 PM

Im pissed, godaddy never works for me :(

Steen2 08-10-2004 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ajpiii
Im pissed, godaddy never works for me :(
Godaddy rarely catches anything worth while.

BruceM 08-10-2004 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo
Pool.com (sign up for your own affiliate code before adding domains)
Are you sure this is allowed under their TOS?

Mr.Fiction 08-10-2004 09:26 PM

Some people like getting attention more than making money? :)

Taboo 08-11-2004 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMob?
which name did godaddy get you?
I'll tell you after the other auctions at enom are over. they all incorporate the same keywords. I needed it for a modeling resource site.

Taboo 08-11-2004 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alexg
Good info :thumbsup

just let me get something straight,

when bidding on an expiring domain, you pay the $60 fee or whatever in order to participate, and then you bet (for example 10k), and you only pay the bet if you actually get the domain?

you do have to risk the $60 to participate, no matter if you win or not, right?

no. if you backorder a name and no one else did and that service, and the service caught it, you pay what you bid. if other ppl bid as well, it goes into auction mode. you do not risk your $60.

Taboo 08-11-2004 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ajpiii
Im pissed, godaddy never works for me :(
rarely works for anyone, but it helps to have all your bases covered, because they have caught names that have resold for 5 and 6 figures.

Taboo 08-11-2004 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceM
Are you sure this is allowed under their TOS?
Oh yeah. pool.com recommended I do it when they saw what I was spending. but they told after I was using them for a while. :1orglaugh

Radik 08-11-2004 02:26 AM

Sounds cool.. I reg mine for 10 years tho :)

Taboo 08-11-2004 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Some people like getting attention more than making money? :)
Don't care about attention, here to network and grow alongside others. My motives are simple. you'll see if you read:

investing in domains ...
(not my thread)
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=5004946

I believe in share a little, learn a lot.

Nicky 08-11-2004 02:38 AM

very good and informative post dude!:thumbsup

Taboo 08-11-2004 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nicky
very good and informative post dude!:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally posted by xclusive
Thanks for posting this info it's very informative...

Thanks. posted some more info on the other thread (5 pages strong)

Brujah 08-11-2004 05:36 AM

Good stuff but not accurate from my own tests and results. You're giving Enom the highest when that's so far from the truth in a broad sampling.

Enom/GoDaddy/Namewinner better than Pool/Snapnames is just far from accurate. A better test would be to take a multiple sampling over a few days from all deleting names and you'll find Pool destroys the others completely.

The best advice though from this is if you see names you want to catch, get in every available source for catching them.
:thumbsup

Taboo 08-11-2004 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Good stuff but not accurate from my own tests and results. You're giving Enom the highest when that's so far from the truth in a broad sampling.

Enom/GoDaddy/Namewinner better than Pool/Snapnames is just far from accurate. A better test would be to take a multiple sampling over a few days from all deleting names and you'll find Pool destroys the others completely.

The best advice though from this is if you see names you want to catch, get in every available source for catching them.
:thumbsup

correct. pool used to be able to grab 90% of what I backordered there. and they have caught hundreds for me, but recently there's been buzz that enom is taking over.

8/5-8/11/04
Inside a Drop Catcher?s War Room: How eNom Arms Maker Chris Ambler Is Turning The Tide for Club Drop
Over the past couple of weeks we have been talking about the big move Enom's Club Drop has been making in the drop catching market (in fact that is the subject of our current Cover Story). Club Drop has added almost 3 dozen new registrars and the harvest from their enlistment program and Chris Ambler's finely tuned software started coming in this week with the company landing three domains on the big board. Those included #3 AirborneExpress.com at $16,000, #5 B2B.net at $10,200 and #9 iVision.com at $6,000. Club Drop also has a pile of high dollar domains moving through the Pipeline as you'll see a bit later (the Pipeline also features a huge $186,000 sale that should be our chart leader next week).

more...
http://www.dnjournal.com/columns/cover080504.htm

so after reading it I ran the test for myself and that's why I was suprised with the results. we'll see who catches PRD.com today. also, namewinner has raised their minimum price and adopted the extended auction format, so perhaps they are working harder than ever. plus all drop services are worried about WLS killing the drop game altogether.

check out the article and the topten sales:
http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm

PMGames 08-11-2004 06:08 AM

great stuff......I never had any success with snapdomains personally.

Groove 08-11-2004 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Some people like getting attention more than making money? :)
You might be surprised to learn that some (dare I say many) people
owe their success to sharing, brainstorming and networking.

alexg 08-11-2004 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo
no. if you backorder a name and no one else did and that service, and the service caught it, you pay what you bid. if other ppl bid as well, it goes into auction mode. you do not risk your $60.
I see

thanks for clarifying this :thumbsup

pxxx 08-11-2004 06:22 AM

Man you give people good info all the time.

Taboo 08-11-2004 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
You might be surprised to learn that some (dare I say many) people
owe their success to sharing, brainstorming and networking.

i think too many people are afraid of someone sharing insider secrets. i see plenty of "would you hit it" type threads all the time and yes they are fun to check out, but everytime I see a domain, or SEO thread ppl come out and flame the ppl to keep them from sharing / learning. ppl are getting used to not finding good info on the boards that when they see it, they don't know how to react. i had some guy flaming me (who I've since called a truce with because i told him it was unproductive) for posting domain info at:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=5005856

I'm sure others will flame me again after what I posted this morning over there regarding real estate domains. but i've been able to network with lots of ppl sinc ei got here and learned alot too.

plus all the threads at gfy help me when I'm mining for more domains.

i.e.

soccercheerleader.com
soccercheerleaders.com
soccercheerleading.com

I was inspired after reading:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showt...;postid=5005768
and seeing:
http://www.joker-inc.com/files/soccer02.html

:winkwink:

Taboo 08-11-2004 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pxxx
Man you give people good info all the time.
Thanks, here's the real estate info that you might want to check out before all the domains are gone.

I snipped some of my posts from here:
investing in domains ...
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagen umber=1


and moved them here for easy reference:
Real Estate Domains that may be open
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=339367

Taboo 08-11-2004 10:23 AM

I'm running another domain drop test today. I'm not sure why I keep calling it a "test"... :winkwink: I wouldn't mind owning the names if I got them. I'll post results in a few hours when we also find out who picked up PRD.com

Taboo 08-11-2004 03:59 PM

Yes, PRD.com was caught by enom, it showed up real late today, but they beat out pool.com again across the board for premiums today. I ran a 2nd drop test today for 20+ domains backordered everywhere, but only some on the list were exclusive backordered by GD/BR. All names were caught by the drop services I used, with enom as the clear winner again and namewinner as the distant loser with ZERO results. I'll post results for 2nd round of drop tests after i take a break, been in the mines all day long.

Crypt 08-11-2004 04:01 PM

Thanks for the info sharing bro ;)

lazycash 08-11-2004 05:01 PM

Great info, thanks. I'm just trying registerfly's expirefish, obviously they are bottom of the barrel. Since rf is enom, do you think its similar to club drop?

Taboo 08-12-2004 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash
Great info, thanks. I'm just trying registerfly's expirefish, obviously they are bottom of the barrel. Since rf is enom, do you think its similar to club drop?
haven't used them before, just go straight to clubdrop.com

Taboo 08-16-2004 05:42 AM

just tying up loose ends in this thread.

prd.com was caught by enom and went for $5k+
everyone was focused on spending money on refurbished.com at pool which went for $32k+
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341272

lots of other big sales last week:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341282

big ones like cd.com coming up.
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=340523

will have 2nd round of drop test results ready soon.

KraZ 08-16-2004 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo
just tying up loose ends in this thread.

prd.com was caught by enom and went for $5k+
everyone was focused on spending money on refurbished.com at pool which went for $32k+

When I got into the car for an extended weekend, refurbished was at $10K... WOW. Not that it's not worth it lol

Taboo 08-16-2004 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KraZ
When I got into the car for an extended weekend, refurbished was at $10K... WOW. Not that it's not worth it lol
LOL.

funny thing is it climbed 10K in last few minutes. went from 22 to 32 in a flash.

also, for those that were waiting:
just posted my 2nd domain drop test results:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341595

Taboo 08-22-2004 08:06 AM

Here's the rest of the droptests and some more links that may help you out:


Domain Drop Test. 2nd round.
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341595

Domain Drop Test. 3rd round.
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=343155

(7+ pages) investing in domains ...
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=338092

(4+ pages) Recent Domain Sales
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341282
weekly top ten sales archive: at dnjournal.com

Mining for Domains: Local/Real Estate
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=339367

(3+ pages) high end domain buying, holding and selling
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=344563

Manowar 08-22-2004 08:19 AM

i always thought snapnames were the best

Doctor Dre 08-22-2004 01:53 PM

Very usefull info as always :) Thanx man

extreme 08-22-2004 02:32 PM

good post.

Taboo 08-22-2004 03:17 PM

thanks everyone. more to come.

gideongallery 09-26-2004 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo
rarely works for anyone, but it helps to have all your bases covered, because they have caught names that have resold for 5 and 6 figures.
so far godaddy only seems to work when the domain that is being dropped is registered at godaddy.
When that is the case i found i get the domain 70% of the time.

Otherwise Godaddy sucks

sacX 09-26-2004 06:25 AM

yeah enom have really pick their game up last few months.


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