Is it possible to have Satan (or the like) but not a GOD ?
 

think about it for a second before replying.

We see evil every single say. killings, robberies, lies, etc. Some people do evil stuff but they dont know why ...

When is the last time you saw an act of GOD? A true miracle?

imagine seeing the plane hit the trade center, then when it was falling all of a sudden the building stopps dead in its tracks? or maybe hit the ground lightly and nobody was hurt?

imagine watching 2 cars head directly towards each other, but then they instantly stop in a such a way that you know it could not have been the brakes of the cars?

imagine seeing something like that? That would be true evidence of a higher power with good intentions.

It just does not happen.

Instead we are brainwashed by the cults, err i mean the church that there is a god, and that he is with us at all times ... we see images in clouds and goofy stuf like that.

Thats a deep thought. Point taken. You really dont see anything like that. When you read the bible it seems something happend all the time. What has happend now in the past 500 years?

How do you know God isn't evil?

our good is the aleins

Are society is built on the ying and the yang type princibles. If there is a good guy so must there be a bad guy type shit, so maybe all the god and devil talk may be just for the bible but i am a christian so yes i believe that there is a god and so there must be a devil and that is because the bible says its so.

500yrs? How about EVER lol

ever hear of a plane falling from the sky with a blown motor, but then suddenly suspended 2 feet from the ground so the people can safely get out?

or a volcano erupting but then magically stopped just before hitting a village below?

it never ever happens.

nothing has ever been documented of this nature other than the bible, and that has never been proven/disproven

I believe that there is good and evil and that evil is winning out right now...

Maybe God died and Satan took over.

There is a God.
He is on vacation while we work out a few things.

God is different to everyone so the devil himself is god to many.

That's true.. except according to organized religion.

not possible. you cannot have the yin without the yang. balance will be maintained.

i strongly beleive that the church is nothing more than a glorified cult.

the object of the church members (at all levels) is to get new members. Just like a cult!

it is important to worship the leader. Just like a cult!

it is important to prey to your god in his "house". Just like a cult!

I also recognise that it is this catholic cult that keeps much evil off of the streets, and also that if it is infact a cult that atleast its purpose is for the better of society and so on, but shit is still a cult! lol

how they got so many people to beleive, or to buy into their "ways" and "beleifs" is beyond me.

The evil exsist with in us all, its just that some more than others. Same goes for good. There is no devil just evil people.

Organized religion is a big business that preys on the poor and weak. These people make millions every year. Why in the fuck does the pope live in such luxury, fuck him he is no better than anyone else. I could do with a private plane.

dont get me wrong, i beleive to a point.

i dont practice in any way, shape or form but there are times i find myself preying.

for example when my grandfather died i convinced myself that he went to heaven. i also said many preyers on his behalf.

but i would never ever flock to a building to hear someone preach the book to me, and how i should think and act, etc.

i would never try and sell my friends on a religion.

i think the entire concept of the church is nonsense.

I know Darwin detests the idea's and principles of evolution, but i strongly beleive that evolution is true based on scientific fact.

I also dont beleive the idea that GOD created this world of ours. I beleive that it began from a spec and it grew ... evolution once again based on scientific fact.

As much as I believe its all bullshit I also think religion is a good thing. It keeps many crazy ass people from doing some stupid ass shit. The flip side is that it also makes some crazy ass people do some stupid ass shit, but still its good that its here. Some people just can't funcution without it.

It's nothing that can be settled here, it's kinda like discussing the topic of who created god if god created everything? How can you have all this from nothing? How can there be nothing at some point?


Just get high and go out like a motherfucker, all you can do...

When my brother died a few years ago I don't think my mom could have went on in life at that moment if she hadn't hung on to her faith. So for some its much needed.

i can agree with this

Well, since we have all the answers.. Stuff we don't have answers to aren't there?

where does space stop? What's behind it?

Very true, I'm done:glugglug

agreed that there will never be a definate answer, not in our lifetime anyhow.

but it is scientifically beleivable that we started from tiny specs of something that merged into something else which kept merging and finally formed a planet which eventually developped a solar system to prevent furthur merging ...

now within this solar system and on this planet it all begins again, specs of something merged to form something else that merged and eventually became a living creature

repeat that process a few times and you have different types of creatures.

run these several types of creatures through the test of time and you now have a more evolved version of the creature, hense the human.

science has a serious challenge trying to solve the very begining, but i definately beleive that it did infact begin with science and not some higher power.

just my 2 cents which is worth practically nothing in the world of science, i know that ... but getting back to the topic, i dont see the proof of this higher power

we were all placed here for a reason. use what gift you have to make your goals in life, dont do waht others tell you.

science is currently very much limited to the current technology, as well as the mental capacity of todays scientists.

but rest assured that there either is something beyond space, or there is not, either way it will be proven some day.

i seriously doubt it will be in ours, or our childrens generations ...

what if what they tell you is the right thing, and what you were "put here to do" :1orglaugh

Satan is a sausage.

Perhaps God values our freedom and independance more than we do.

When you think about nothingness and what we have now, with the whole universe, planets, people and such. Its actually more absurd that there be something than nothing, so don't put too much thought into it, just go with the flow.

We have humans ... good ones and bad ones . They make this world and you gotta deal with them everybody ... Nobody controls them except george w bush

askign if there is a god or a devil and then talking about 9/11 and car crashs doesn't fit.


God never stops them but how do you know the devil caused the things in the first place.

Bad drivers cause accidents and 9/11 was human hijackers..

The real problem is humans we cause good and evil

I say let's get rid of humans.

I think Satan is just a concept made up by people to rationalize the fucking over of other people that they like to do.

"Satan made me do it!"

i guess we should listen to you, considering your name and all lol

This is a board for adult webmasters to network and learn the business. I realize that a lot of other stuff goes on in here too, but what is with all the religion bashing posts lately? I personally have a lot of problems with organized religion myself. But I believe whether organized religion is evil and whether or not God exists are two completely different questions.

WRT your question about miracles, they happen all the time. Many people have seen real miracles happen in their lives. If one has happened in your life, you would believe. If not, you will have doubts. There are lots of unexplained phenomena that science simply cannot explain and which seem to violate the laws of nature.

If there is no creator, what explains life and the universe? Either there was an intelligent cause or it all came about by pure blind chance. Do you really think the explanation for everything we see in nature is that it just happened all by itself for no reason out of absolute nothingness? If you can offer a better explanation, I'm all ears.

Have you seen my penis?

Short answer, 'yes' with an 'if', long answer, 'no' with a 'but'

How the hell did I miss this thread? :1orglaugh