God Exists
 

I know it in my heart

:1orglaugh

What about the devil? If one exist doesnt the other have to?

I knew I'd get Mr. Athiest to respond to this thread. I know it on a level that you just can't understand. And I'm happy because of it. :)

I think I believe in him too. :feels-hot

Of course you are. Drugs make people feel good.

You are high on Jesus... and I'm happy for you.

Just don't start forcing your drugs on others.

What if you wouldve been born on an island and were left behind for the rest of your life. Nobody wouldve polluted your mind with the bible. Nobody wouldve told you about this imaginary dude called Jesus.

What then? Nothing, because there will be nobody to brainwash you. You would find your own truth which has nothing to do with Jesus. Your current truth is one which is forced upon you and you dont even realize it.

I feel sorry for you.

Never done that! never will! Talk about it all you want. I'll go toe to toe with you on evolution and the big bang. He's real and he's among us.

Very interesting concept!!!!!:thumbsup

translation: "I am incapable of critical thinking."

Dude, you are soooooo wrong! There is clear and independent evidence that a man named Jesus walked the earth at that time period. The question is whether or not you believe what he said about himself. Is Jesus who he says he was or not? You are free to believe that he's the son of god or not the son of god. I personally believe that he is.

Both exist, but one is wayyy more powerful than the other. I believe in God and i say it with no fear. :thumbsup

I'm perfectly capable of critical thinking. I have a PhD and teach at a University in Texas.

Ok now answer my question.

If he does exist, then you're all going to hell for pushing porn! :1orglaugh

so which religion is right then?

you are just adorable :winkwink:

This is where many religions clash. There is no right or wrong religion. God is God in all religions, just with a different name and a diffferent story twist to it. Every religion believes in a higher power. This is why there are so many riots in a country like Nigeria, where i come from. The Muslims say that their religion is right and the Christians, say that their's is right.

Do you believe in heaven and hell?

To even seriously argue with a religionist is to lend credibility that should not be granted. To honor their insanity, by treating them like some sort of intellectual equal, is more than they deserve. You may as well debate the local homeless schizophrenic. Religion is a mental disorder and religionists should be looked down upon as the retards they are.

Yes, and i always will. Being that you are NOT a dipshit like many others on this board, because i have read some of your posts and threads, i would like to think that you will be able to respect that. :thumbsup

Ok i respect that.
Then i also assume you say that someone who doesnt believe in God will not see heaven, right?

God reveals himself in different ways to different people. If someone has never been exposed to Jesus, he cannot be held accountable for not following Jesus.

Wow, a post from Boobmaster that I agree with!

I see.

Heheheh ok.

Thanks.

That is not my call to make, because I am not supposed to judge and many Christians fail in this part. They stand there and tell non believers that they will go to hell, when the Bible said that we shouldn't judge others. I am not here to CHANGE non believers, like i said a couple of weeks ago, there is no way you can change someone's belief.

Battus: If i sat here and told you that you would not see Heaven because you do not believe, I will be hypocrite, because it is not my DUTY to tell you if you will see Heaven or not, nor is it my duty to telll you what to believe in or not.





-Greg

Deep thought. Id watch out for the mormans if I were you.

That is a very valid point. I was hand fed one religion when I grew up. I never took to it. But it is forced fed into you as a child.

dont know whay I have never seen it posted here before
i came across this by accident the other day :

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com

I am a pathetic hypocrite. That doesn't change the fact that God exists,

Ok, thats fair.

Let me ask you then. Do non believers go to hell?

I only write how i feel on this topic, and just like i want non believers to respect my belief, It is only right if i respect their's. Many people do not catch onto this early, but YOU HAVE TO GIVE RESPECT TO GET RESPECT.

Battus: Thanks for respecting what i wrote and believe in. That was very mature of you and i appreciate it.:thumbsup

Just a bunch of crap!

So let me get this straight ... There's an omnipotent being out there .. All knowing, all seeing ...

First he/she/it creates a race of perfect beings; Angels. They are beautiful, a truley perfect creation .. Except they lack free will. They can not choose to love god, they simply do.

So god, being a selfish bastard, decides this isn't good enough. Instead he'll create a world and populate it with creatures that may choose; Man.

Here's the really tricky part ... Being all knowing, god must already know what mankind will do .. How it will turn out, so to speak. Regardless of if we're free to make our own choices, he must already know what the results are...

What a selfish, sick and twisted fucking bastard. And you expect to win me over with arguments of love and all that nonsense? No benevolent god could in good faith create this hell hole of a world.

No there isn't.

And don't give me those tired old Plinius and Josephus quotes.

There is no authentic contemporaneous secular reference to Jesus.

God is dead, get over it already.

http://atheism.about.com/od/argumentsagainstgod/

I believe that all people will be judged according to how they lived their lives. What happens to these people, I cannot say. I do believe that if there is punnishment, it will be just.

Why are you so sure about Jesus? because its written.
Then why arent you so sure about heaven and hell? Its the same people who wrote about Jesus who also said theres a heaven and hell.

What makes you sure about 1 thing and unsure about the other, especially since its coming from the same source?

oh no not such a discussion with the pro-gods vs. pro-devils again :drinkup

God didn't fuck up the world. We did!

And i agree with u!:thumbsup

Damn thats crazy. What were you doing by accident to come accross that?:1orglaugh

I think that there is a god and he can be very loving but very vengeful at the same time.

I have said my part on this thread and all was agreed upon and left as it is with Battus, but i certainly see this thread going places. Seems like the Presidential debates.:1orglaugh

Funny how people who believe in God always know what he did and what not.

If tomorrow your wife would have your baby you would say its a gift from God right? But if a day later some guy stabs your baby to death, what would that be? Also a gift from God?

How exactly do you decide what is Gods work and what not?

I'm not unsure about heaven and hell. I believe they exist too. But I have never been to either place so there isn't much I can say about them. I only know that God will be just and fair with everyone.

Okay sure .. But he had to KNOW that's what we would do.

So why run such a cruel experiment?

You can't understand because you have no concept of what it will be like in the afterlife. I can't conceptualize it either. From God's perspective, the baby does not die, but instead comes into his loving arms. From our perspective, it is a horrible loss. We don't see things with the eyes of God.

Honestly, im trying to stay polite so with all my politeness and respect: Get yourself checked, you have some serious brain damage. Who did this to you? Your parents?

Why does it have to be cruel? You have a flock of pigeons. You release them and wait for them to come back to you.