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  • Jace
    FBOP Class Of 2013
    • Jan 2004
    • 35562

    #1

    Question about the new 2257 and models privacy...

    I am still learning all this shit, and I think this is a great question regarding all this shit

    my wife has done porn for years, and has TONS of content out there of her.....

    with the new 2257, does this mean any schmuck can buy some content of my wife, then recieve all her legal docs from that shoot?

    she is worried about this, because there is an invasion of privacy issue here regarding her address and real name

    basically, any surfer with $50 in his visa can go and buy some content and get all her info...INCLUDING her real name and address....
  • Bansheelinks
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 6023

    #2
    well now that'll make for an interesting court case now won't it?

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    • StuartD
      Sofa King Band
      • Jul 2002
      • 29903

      #3
      if she does a shoot AFTER the new docs come out.... then yes, the person who buys it would have more info on her than you do.
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      • Jace
        FBOP Class Of 2013
        • Jan 2004
        • 35562

        #4
        Originally posted by MaskedMan
        if she does a shoot AFTER the new docs come out.... then yes, the person who buys it would have more info on her than you do.
        looks like most girls will think twice before doing just any random shoot then, huh?

        this is going to get VERY interesting

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        • amacontent
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          • Feb 2003
          • 13026

          #5
          Welcome to Republican America Jace. Girls can either flip burgers at McDonalds for $8 and hour , or deal with the new laws.. or find a working man to support her.
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          • Jace
            FBOP Class Of 2013
            • Jan 2004
            • 35562

            #6
            Originally posted by amacontent
            Welcome to Republican America Jace. Girls can either flip burgers at McDonalds for $8 and hour , or deal with the new laws.. or find a working man to support her.
            it fuckin sucks huh?

            luckily tabitha doesn't do any content stuff anymore, but shit man, all these girls that have no idea will have their info everywhere

            i think there should also be a stipulation within the new 2257 laws that says a content producer HAS to notify the girls of this before shooting, and the girls must sign a piece of paper saying they are aware their info will be given to ANYONE with a credit card

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            • jayeff
              Confirmed User
              • May 2001
              • 2944

              #7
              There are several implications arising from the new 2257 regulations, both legal and practical, in respect of "anyone" having access to model information.

              For whatever it is worth, I submitted my comments on the regulation changes. You can do the same by visiting http://www.regulations.gov/ do a keyword search on
              2723-2004 and then scroll down the page for "Submit a Comment on this Regulation" [comments have to be in by August 24th].

              But in the meantime, although I understand those concerns, my view is that if the excrement hits the fan, it's me that could be facing 5 years inside. Therefore unless the rules are changed to specifically allow something else, once they are in effect I shall not be buying content from anyone who does not provide complete, in-clear records.

              If I screw up, that is my fault, but I'm just not ready to run the risk of being a test case for someone else's theories on what may or may not be acceptable.

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              • Jace
                FBOP Class Of 2013
                • Jan 2004
                • 35562

                #8
                Originally posted by jayeff

                But in the meantime, although I understand those concerns, my view is that if the excrement hits the fan, it's me that could be facing 5 years inside. Therefore unless the rules are changed to specifically allow something else, once they are in effect I shall not be buying content from anyone who does not provide complete, in-clear records.
                see, and I am with you on that shit, i want full docs too...but I trust myself not to stalk some girl that I have a real record on....

                the freaks are who I have the problem with...there are some fucked up people out there

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                • roscoe98
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 689

                  #9
                  I wanna throw out something i haven't heard or at least haven't seen brought up.

                  Isn't a model that you pay an employee?
                  If so then how does this conflict with the laws that pertain to empl0yee privacy?

                  I mean when i used to work in the real world we couldn't tell anybody anything past "yes they work for us" or "no they don't".


                  Any input?

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                  • StuartD
                    Sofa King Band
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 29903

                    #10
                    Originally posted by roscoe98
                    I wanna throw out something i haven't heard or at least haven't seen brought up.

                    Isn't a model that you pay an employee?
                    If so then how does this conflict with the laws that pertain to empl0yee privacy?

                    I mean when i used to work in the real world we couldn't tell anybody anything past "yes they work for us" or "no they don't".


                    Any input?
                    I dp lots of programming and consulting and even designing occassionaly for people... I'm not nor will I ever be their employee.

                    Doing work and getting paid doesn't make you an employee.
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                    • NBDesign
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5814

                      #11
                      Good point... You get some crazed stalker out there and not a porn company... man that could be some scary shit...

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                      • roscoe98
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 689

                        #12
                        I understand your position..But a model signs a contract to do work for you. So she is an employee for that time period.

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                        • Jace
                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 35562

                          #13
                          a model is contract labor and gets paid as contract labor

                          she is not nor ever will be an employee

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                          • Jace
                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 35562

                            #14
                            Originally posted by roscoe98
                            I understand your position..But a model signs a contract to do work for you. So she is an employee for that time period.
                            a model does not sign a contract

                            she signs a model release and RARELY tax forms as contract labor

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                            • roscoe98
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 689

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                              a model is contract labor and gets paid as contract labor

                              she is not nor ever will be an employee
                              Ok ill go with that...but is the law different for contract labor as far as privacy issues go?

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                              • AaronM
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                                • Oct 2001
                                • 46917

                                #16
                                Originally posted by roscoe98
                                I understand your position..But a model signs a contract to do work for you. So she is an employee for that time period.
                                No, she's not. She's an independant contractor.

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