print question for designers
 

Hey, when designing a logo that is going to be used for print work... and hence it needs to be fully resizable (vector)... i have been simply using photoshop and making sure that everything i create is a shape vector, and not rasterizing the image at all, and then saving it as a photoshop .EPS file? is this good enough or do you really need to use say illustrator? ive been using photoshop for ages so i am just use to doing it that way, but i want to make sure that the final product is still going to be okay with no problems when people open it in say illustrator to make it 10x larger...

learn illustrator and corel draw today man

make sure you use a high dpi and cmyk. 1200 dpi is usually what i start out with, it can always be dropped. Most bcards I do I go down to 600. :2 cents:

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cheers ppl... i know how to use illustrator from back in uni... but i dont have the program myself yet...

but will a photoshop eps still work?

use illustrator ! :thumbsup

High DPI wont matter . But you SHOULD learn illustrator or corel draw . They are the way to go and takes 10 x less time to create the same thing

alright cool.. but can you still create it in photoshop and have an .eps file that will work as vectors?

It really dont matter for print ... it can be bitmap over 400-600 dpi and it will be as good as vector . So as long as you save it big enough and the software keep the quality when you design, its all good

chances are it will work, but look like shit. Why don't you try it out? Kinkos is open 24/7.

The image doesnt have to be a vector image to print. Who told you that is an idiot :) It only needs to be a vector if you are doing it in spot colours and not full colour CMYK

But that said if you are printing in spot colours and so need the logo vectord photoshop wont work, its eps is still a bitmat and not a vectord image, so you will need to create in Illistrator or freehand. Avoid Coral draw its for amateurs working at home.

okay so basically if you are just using photoshop then there is no point in providing a photoshop .eps file?

.. nope, the photoshop .eps file is totally different from the Illustrator's .eps, even if it let's you RASTERIZE at a bigger resolution that the one you worked in, it's still a RASTERIZATION, not a scalable vector file. It won't be a problem for printing up to.... let's say 150% of the original file size, but no match for the vector that can be upsized to any size wanted. Photoshop does not use mathematic formulas to describe curves, like Vector programs do.

for printing (vector) artworks.. i'd say use coreldraw or macromedia freehand.. these are some of the top vector editors right now. :thumbsup

You can't print Vector art. :2 cents:

okay so is the conclusion then that if you are creating a logo for print work, you shouldnt use photoshop?

yup. . . good idea.
Use both tools when you can. . . can't have 1 w/o the other imho.

one thing I learned from working in a print shop and also having a best friend that went to one of the top design schools is that your wasting your time doing anything above 150dpi....there are almost no printers (the machine not the shop) that go above it....most printers (the shop) just tell you to do it above because of the myth that has been perpetuated for so long about :higher dpi means higher quality"

i have NEVER had troubles using photoshop for any print work...as long as you do it right, it is fine

okay cool... so when creating a logo for print using photoshop, what file types would you need to supply? is there any point in making everything shape layers? and do you just make the logo a size that should be the largest it will need to be?