"The human race never takes backward steps for very long."
 

Just saw that quote... Here is to humanity :thumbsup

that doesn't mean we're always moving forward either though....

still, good to know we're not going backwards.

:glugglug O.K. sounds good

True, but the premise that in the long run, we as a race and as individuals are improving is a notion worth saluting to.

this is absolutely true which is why we have to get rid of the dirtbags in the Middle East, they endanger the progress of the rest of the world that gets up every morning trying to push the boundaries of science, medicine, music, art, literature, physical performance and even pornography. while they get up each day filled with hate and ignorance babbling to themselves about some imaginary big daddy in the sky named Allah.

yes, i know we have fundamentalist religious idiots here too - as long as they keep that shit to themselves it's fine - the ones who act up - execute them or give them a one way ticket to the Holy Land.

Sorry, but I disagree... infact, I feel this is a very bone head way to look at it.

By this reasoning, we should just nuke all the starving people in Ethiopia as well, or wipe out disabled people, or those born with birth defects.

The very barbaric act of getting "rid of the dirt bags" that doesn't fit into your picture of a perfect world doesn't help civilization advance... it's what makes us take 2 step backwards. :2 cents:

Bush is doing more to hinder science, medicine, and art than any foreign terrorist.

Our 'leaders' have killed more people just by delaying cloning and stem cell research than Osama and Saddam combined.

I actually disagree with that quote, Technology may change, but our nature hasnt evolved in along time. Infact I think we've taken primitive steps backwards in just being human.

I'll point out the fallacies in your reply.

1. The Ethiopians do not have a choice about whehter or not they starve but the radical Islamists do have a choice about whether they try and murder all the infidels.

2. Disabled people are not disabled because of their own wishes, nor do they attack other people.

3. People with birst defects are not born that way because of their own fault.

4. Mutt isn't wanting to get rid of the "Middle East dirtbags" because they don't fit into his vision of a perfect world. He wants to get rid of them because they are a direct threat to the rest of humanity. You sould have been able to see that point from his admission that although there are also religious bigots in the USA, as long as they kept it to themselves he was willing to live and let live.
Your reply was, in fact, typical of a loony leftie :1orglaugh

Either the Islamic nutjobs join the rest of humanity or they die. It's as simple as that. We cannot let them live now that they have access to weapons and transport because that puts them in our backyard, the result of which was September 11th 2001 and other incidents.

I'd like to point out that no two democracies, as far as I am aware, have ever gone to war against each other. The Islamists hate democracy because it works and proves that their allah is nothing other than the sick fantasy of a 7th century rapist, paedophile, murderer and thief named Muhammad.
Go read the Qu'ran and Hadiths and come back and tell us you're not horrified with what you read.

consider our culture:

stupid people are too lazy to get on birth control, or believe getting pregnant is 'gods will', or are rewarded for breeding by screwed up social welfare policy. 4..5..6 kids or more are not unusual.

more intelligent people usually use birth control so that they can delay having children and pursue a career; they don't have more children than they can afford, and ultimately have fewer children overall. usually no more than 1 or 2 or maybe 3.

how long can stupid keep outbreeding smart 2-1 or 3-1 before we're de-evolving?

evolution is too slow and random; we need genetic engineering asap.
for intelligence, for heatlh, and to weed out the primitive tribal instinct.

Good point

I'm not even going to bother replying to you now that you've said this. This is all the proof I need to know that it'll be incredibly pointless to talk to you unless I use a language dating back to the caveman era.

Simply pathetic. :glugglug

A healthy eugenics program could solve the issues raised in your post, but whenever the term "eugenics" is mentioned, hysterical ninnies whine that Hitler and the Nazis supported eugenics, and that attempting to genetically improve mankind is therefore intrinsically evil. Such platitudes are obviously ludicrous and unsupported by cool-headed logical thought; the problem, however, is that no democratically elected politician will dare raise the question of eugenics since one needs the help of the dull-witted masses in order to get elected. "Vote for me and you'll have a 50% chance of getting sterelized!"

which is why eugenics won't work. too slow. too socially complex.

however, if a doctor asks parents "do you want your child to be smarter?"
(plus stronger / healthier / better looking ... if that's what it takes to sell it)
how many are going to say no?

that's how evolution will continue; as an upsell. :winkwink: