Lets make some money with free sites, shall we?
 

A lot of newbies comes and say they wanna make money out of porn and asks a zillions of questions. Although there is a tons of tutorials and articles on several fine sites I'll try to do something little different: step by step tutorial on daily basis. And I'll try to do it for 100% newbies without using any of traffic or cash I made so far in porn biz.

Ok, here we go... First of we need domain and hosting. These two things are a MUST! Domain would cost you around 7-9$ per year and you can start with so small hosting that will cost you like 5$ per month so there is no excuse not to get these two things. If you unable to pay for it shot me an email and I'll provide you with both for free. Ofcourse I'm not filthy rich but each month I'll try to help out few people ;)

Second thing we need is content. As I already said I am newbie and don't have any money to buy it so I'll use sponsors content. We know that sponsor content is overused but that fact stands only for big, well know companies so I'll use brand new sponsor which provides a nice amount of content: Favouritecash.com . I am using toons sponsor because I bought toon domain.

Now when we have domain and hosting we must chose what would we do and that's free sites. Free sites will burn you a waaay less bandwidth and you will get waaaay much better traffic quality 'cause link lists are on top positions on google and other SEs. Second thing is that on free site you have 4 pages to put ads instead of 1 on gallery.

So lets build our first free site. Each free site contains 4 pages: warning,main and two gallery pages. You can also add 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 Compliance Notice page because some link lists recently started to request that.

So I builded my first free site: www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart/ and that site contains 5 pages:

1. warning (index) page: this page must have warning text clearly saying that our site contains adult material! On top of that page I putted site name. Under that there is first ad from my sponsor. Always put ads there! First thing what surfer should see when he come is ad! That's where from most sales will come. Those surfers who will enter your site probably just looking for some free porn (not all of them of course!). Under that ad there is warning and recip links to link lists I submitted my site. Each link list request recip link and some of them request niche recip link so before submitting you free site grab recip links and put them on your site. As you can see there is recips for 6 link lists and we want to get our site listed on all link list so we make copies of our free sites and simply change recips:
www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart/
www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart2/
www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart3/
www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart4/
www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart5/
www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart6/
www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart7/
I could make several index pages with different recips but most of link lists prefers to have their recip on main page of site so I put each site in different folder. Recips always MUST be above enter link! Under that I putted another sponsors link. It's for penis enlargement pills and it's just addition because with this free site I am promoting only one site. If you using sponsor content ALLWAYS check with sponsor if its ok to have another sponsor link on site with their content! Some of sponsors doesn't care if their site is main thing that you promote. At the very bottom there is a link to 2257 Compliance Notice page and its ok to have it

2. main page: contains just 2 ads and links to free galleries. Always try to get surfers focus on ads.

3. gallery pages: almost every link list out there requires at least 20 pictures to be listed each of my galleries contains 10 pictures and more ads. As you can see I am using only text links on galleries to get some SE traffic. If you're using your own content you can also put there ads for email programs because surfer who seeing galleries already saw your ads for pay sites and he didn't clicked so maybe he would be interested in some more free porn.

While submitting my first free site I added each link list submission page to my favorites in IE. For each copy of site I made new folder in my favorites naming them freesite1, freesite2 etc so next time when I am going to submit it will be easier to do it.

I submitted this free site to 40 link lists (2 have closed submissions due to server moves) and now I can only wait for results. For link list there is no confirmation link to click on. After submitting it takes only a day or two to get listed on most link lists.

Because I got toons domain I will build toons and hentai sites so I will need more sponsors so here is the list of sponsors I'll use because they have free toon and hentai content:
Favouritecash.com
Adultpaymaster.com
Sextronix.com

Other than these I will use some pills sponsors because with just one sale I may earn up to 125$ (even more than that!) and after my free sites hits google it could be nice addition to sing up earnings:
Healthstop.biz
Pillsmoney.com
Wishing.com
Leadingedgecash.com

Tomorrow I'll made new free site and check what happened with one I made and submit today.

It can't be easier that this. At start you'll have a problem to collect all those recips but once you got it you can build free site in half hour.
I will continue to build free sites for next 30 days and each day I'll report you what have I done and what the results I got.
For any question feel free to shot me email: adultbiz at globalnet.hr or simply send me message on icq 270-269-078
Each month I give away few domains and paid hosting for a month for free so feel free to apply. If you are from easter europe and have problems to get hosting and domain because of paying problem (no credit card and such things) shot me email and I'll help you.

Any question is welcome. Feel free to ask me anything.
Stay tuned for day two :)
Iggy :glugglug

Day 2 - Another day, another site

If we wanna make money we must work. It's that simple. If you work in factory you need to work at least 8 hours to get a paycheck so it simply can't be different in porn biz! Work,work and more work and checks are on the way! So let's keep this going on.

After building first site and submitting it I received few mails that my site is listed. I didn't go to check all stats because people told me that I need to wait few days to get listed everywhere so for today I'll skip checking stats and build another site.

In each biz important thing is growing so I added another 6 link lists to my submission list and made new free site:

www.adultcomicspost.com/2shortsexcomics/
www.adultcomicspost.com/2shortsexcomics2/
www.adultcomicspost.com/2shortsexcomics3/
www.adultcomicspost.com/2shortsexcomics4/
www.adultcomicspost.com/2shortsexcomics5/
www.adultcomicspost.com/2shortsexcomics6/
www.adultcomicspost.com/2shortsexcomics7/
www.adultcomicspost.com/2shortsexcomics8/

I changed design of my second site a bit because link lists owners won't list my site if I am using same templates each day. After 30 days I will have 30 free site templates and than each day I will use one of them. This time I linked "exit" link to non-adult sponsor because someone told me that if surfer clicks on "exit" link its a waste so I'll try to make money out of those surfers.

It took me a bit over an hour to submit to all those link lists over dial up so it's ok. There is a lot more link lists out there but I'll add like 6 per day because I am too lazy to get more than that. :D. Now I have 8 free site directories in IE favorites and recip links for 56 sites and with this second site I done making it and submitting it much faster that with first one.

Because I am not using any counters I need some tool to track stats so I asked around boards for good and free one (believe it or not boards can useful sometimes!). So nice dudes provides me with two programs for analyzing server logs so I picked both of 'em and will use them to see which one works better for me:

www.loganpro.com
www.weblogexpert.com - lite version is free

I made my two sites using dreamweaver. For making thumbs I am using cool piece of free software that can be found on this link: http://www.fookes.com/ezthumbs/

Tomorrow I will add more link lists to my submission list and change sponsor just to see how will another sponsors site convert with link lists traffic. Also I will download server logs and analyze it to see how much traffic I got so far and how much bandwidth I have burned.

Drink some beers and lick some boobs 'till tomorrow
Iggy :moon

Day 3 - Traffic started to flow

Ok it's a time to see some stats but first lets build another site:

www.adultcomicspost.com/trishandangie/
www.adultcomicspost.com/angieandtrish2/
www.adultcomicspost.com/angieandtrish3/
www.adultcomicspost.com/angieandtrish4/
www.adultcomicspost.com/angieandtrish5/
www.adultcomicspost.com/angieandtrish6/
www.adultcomicspost.com/angieandtrish7/
www.adultcomicspost.com/angieandtrish8/
www.adultcomicspost.com/angieandtrish9/

This time I added 6 more link lists to my submission list and next time I'll add some more. More places I submit my free site to means more traffic, more traffic means more chances to make some money. Again I change design a bit so now I have 3 free site templates and need 27 more to have templates for whole month.

Lets see some stats now..

So far my previous made free sites was listed on several link lists and in past 2 and half days I received 1638 visitors. Its too early to see where my free sites listed because some link lists have big back logs so I'll skip where from most of the traffic comes.

Stats from my sponsor showing around 100 visitors to his site and no sales yet. So now you can see why its good to start with free sites: CTR is waaaay much better that from galleries because you have 4 pages to show ads to visitor.

I burned around 350 megs of bandwidth so far.

Tomorrow I'll change sponsor and in next 3-4 days will post screen shots of all stats so stay tuned.

Grab some boobs and drink some beer and see ya tomorrow
Iggy :ak47:

I don?t think the major LL will accept your site if your pictures is located in a different directory.

404 Not Found: http://www.adultcomicspost.com/sexart/

:glugglug

Nothing wrong with pics in diferent directory.
And I posted wrong links in my first post :1orglaugh
Requested from admin to change those. Here is right ones:
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dsexart/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dsexart2/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dsexart3/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dsexart4/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dsexart5/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dsexart6/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dsexart7/

very good thread!!

do keep us updated

Very good thread iggy! BTW, where the hell have ya been over at Fetish Pimps?

Very nice thread. Will have to subscribe to this one.

very nice idea iggy, it's nice to see such a productive post on this board, don't quit on us! I'm anxiously awaiting today's post!

Day 4 - A li'l brake to see some stats and do some search

Ok, 4th day I took day off to analyze stats so far and to look for more sponsor. When you analyze stats don't just look at raw numbers! Try to understand those numbers! Usually whem webmasters talks about conversation rates they do not talk about small details that can make a big diference! To show you what I mean here is my results so far with my 3 free sites...

After submitting them I got listed almost everywhere. Got just one recejction email but its from smaller link list so didn't bother to see whats wrong ;)
My 3 free sites received 5046 visitors in total. Be aware that this thread is hot and lots of webmasters visit my sites so we must deduct that number from total count. It's hard to tell how much exactly surfers visited my free sites but as you can see from stats there is less than 3400 unique ips

http://www.adultcomicspost.com/stats1.gif

You can also see that I burned 670 megs of bandwidth so far.

Out of those visitors I made one trial sale. Favouritecash.com is revshare sponsor from which you get 50% of all sign ups and rebills. In case that I was using per sing up sponsor I would made 30-35$. Now I can only hope that site I just sold have good content I that trail would become full sale and if site is regulary updated I could make more than 30-35$.

http://www.adultcomicspost.com/favcash2.gif

These stats are from 4 days and so far I send like 250 visitors to sponsor site so conversation rate would be 1:250. And now we came to small details: I sended 250 visitors to sponsors site with just around lets say 4000 visitors (it's less than than for sure!)! Thats around 6% CTR! Impossible to get it on galleries! 1:250 conversation is not so great but if you see how many visitors I need to make sale thats diferent story. To get better conversations next time I will just make sure that in every ad I clearly state that there is pay site behide ad and in that way much less visitors will click on ad and conversation would look nicer.

Another details is also important:

http://www.adultcomicspost.com/stats2.gif

My 3 free sites are indexed by google and yahoo in less than 4 days! At the end of my little tutorial you'll see how much traffic will get from those two ses. From this stats I can see that I can easily get some search engine traffic for keywords such as "3d sex", "sex 3d", and "free 3d sex" so I need to get them what they are looking for so let's go on 5th day...

Day 5 - Don't put all eggs in one basket

In other words don't send all your traffic to just one sponsor! Try them all and see who is best money maker for you. This time I chose to use Sextronix.com because they have few gooooood looking hentai sites and tons of free content. For now I'll try their two 3D sites and per sign up program because I had some traffic from google and yahoo looking for that kind of stuff so lets see can I make money with it. Heres my new free site:

www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex/
www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex2/
www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex3/
www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex4/
www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex5/
www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex6/
www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex7/
www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex8/
www.adultcomicspost.com/free3dsex9/

This time I didn't expand my submission list because I am waiting to see which one link lists I already submitted few sites will not send me any traffic so I can replace them with new ones.

The end of first week of my tut is near so prepare yourself for a few money making add ons to free sites ;) And also detail statistic after 7 days of making free sites!
Stay cool and lick some boobs for me ;)
Iggy :BangBang:

Good job iggy nice to see someone helping out those that may not be gallery makers. Question: What do you use to submit your galleries in these examples?

hey iggy... pa gdje si ? vec neko vrime te pokusavam dobiti na icq... :-)

Great guide had a few tips in there that really made sense. Thanks!

Nice thread. Very usefull.

What do you use to submit your site?

after bulding your sites do you put them on your 'hub'...

Hand submission 100% :thumbsup

I'll get to that :winkwink:
This tutorial is based on my 1 year expirience so I tried to remeber how I started and what I have done in past 12 months :)

bizi, bizi, cucemo se ;)

iggy Great Thread :winkwink:

It is not just a guide -- it is a research! :-)
Thanks and keep your work on.

day 6

Day 6 - How much they click on banners?

Another day-another free site:

www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes2/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes3/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes4/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes5/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes6/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes7/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes8/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes9/
www.adultcomicspost.com/3dvirtualbabes10/

As you can see I added 6 new link lists to my submission list so now I have 60 link lists to submit to. Imo 7 days in just enough to get listed on every link list that is still alive so after tomorrow I'll start to stop submitting to those link lists that can't send me any traffic. Take a note that this is only for toons-hentai niche!

Also notice difference between my first 3 sites and latest 2! On first 3 I have a lot of text ads and on last two just banners with one text line under it. Surfers clicked a lot on text ads so now I wanna see how much will they click on banners. Probably a lot less because so far surfers are trained that banners are just ads but that doesn't mean bad thing! With banners my conversation will be better only CTR will be a lot smaller.

Also, around 5,000 surfers visited my sites, looked at pics and leave 'em. We have no use of them so we must find solution how to even earn some money out of them or use them to get new visitors and that will be my task for tonight: how to use that traffic.

Talk to ya tomorrow ;)
Iggy :helpme

Day 7 - Let's not waste traffic ok?

Before I start my brainstorming for today lets see where from I got most of traffic to my sites so far. To make things easier for ya I added submit page links for those link lists. Some of those link lists listed all my free sites mad for this tutorial so you can expect a li'l bit different results:

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com - submit page: http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/submit1.html
http://www.link-o-rama.com - submit page: http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/email.shtml
http://www.outlawsporn.com - submit page: http://www.outlawsporn.com/addsite.html
http://www.sex-circus.com - submit page: http://www.sex-circus.com/submitc.html
http://www.hoes.com - submit page: http://www.hoes.com/go/webmasters/welcome.html
http://www.theredcherry.com - submit page: http://www.theredcherry.com/cgi-bin/links/xr14.cgi
http://cleos-porn-links.com - submit page: http://www.cleos-porn-links.com/adul...s/submit.shtml
http://www.clixxx4porn.com - submit page: http://www.clixxx4porn.com/webmasters.htm
http://www.penisbot.com - submit page: http://www.penisbot.com/submit_resource.html
http://www.adult-list.com - submit page: http://www.adult-list.com/cgi-bin/submit.cgi
http://www.linkforsex.com - submit page: http://www.linkforsex.com/adult-links/wmsubmit1.html

Please note than some of these link lists listed just one of my free sites so far like Penisbot so for more accurate traffic stats I'll wait 'till end of my tut.

Now, lets see how can we make more money out of traffic to our free sites. Traffic is name of the game so we must not waste any of it!

Let us try get into surfers mind. He come to see our site and as I already said first thing what he must see is ad for pay site. When he see it and enter our site anyway he is probably not interested in particular site you trying to sell him so give him another one at main page. After he sees another ad and goes to first gallery chances to get sales is much less but if he likes content that he see there is still possibility to make sale. If he goes to second gallery there is a great chance that he is just freeloader (not all of them!) so we need to find the way how to take advantage of him because he is still visitor. On this place we can offer him link for niche top list! Send them to top list and get another visitors back to your site. As easy as that. On top of second gallery put another ad but on bottom simply offer niche top list and get more traffic to your free site.

There is one more kind of freeloaders: when he came to your site and see that he is in directory let say yourdomain.com/freesite2/ usually he thinks if there is second site there is probably third and fourth and so on and he will hit yourdomain.com/freesite3/ hoping to see more porn. So instead of numbering our sites 1,2,3... from now on we will use 2,4,6,8 etc. like this:

yourdomain.com/freesite2/
yourdomain.com/freesite4/
yourdomain.com/freesite6/

Those freeloaders (or just curious surfers) will now hit our 404 page. If you have cpanel or direct admin you can easily make custom 404 page. If you not have that you need change your .htaccess file:

1. Open notepad, then type:

ErrorDocument 404 http://www.whateveryouwant.com
ErrorDocument 403 http://www.whateveryouwant.com

2. Save it as .htaccess

3. Then upload it to your /public_html folder on your hosting

For 404 traffic I'll use Fpctraffic.com as sponsor because they offer 3 cents per blind click, 3$ per 1000 raw clicks, 3$ per 1000 popunders and 1.25$ per 1000 simple pupunders. Also I'll use Xitcash.com for exit traffic in case that surfers simply close my 404 page.

Ok, I typed too much for now lol. See ya tomorrow :p
Iggy :glugglug

Great stuff Iggy

Hey I noticed you said you'd provide an account to various people to help them out, was wondering if I could have one to test out my scripts and get my site completed, my old host expired for my free use after only a few days and I wasn't able to test out my new scripts due to the SQL database login not being emailed to me prior to the account termination. I will not use any bandwidth really because it will only be myself and my graphic designer visiting the site and getting my site ready for myself to purchase my own hosting, don't want to be paying out money I don't have to just tinker with scripts.

Thanks
Wiggles

This thread is over a year old?! Looked promising but after a week he only made 1 sale for $3.50 (near as I can tell).

Can anyone point up a thread like this where someone actually followed through and made a decent amount of money?

over a year?

06-27-2004 01:17 PM thread started !


tb :banana

Over a year ??? 06-27-2004 03:17 PM
Have a great day and come back to this great thread in 24 hours ;)

:eyecrazy Duh, me! I was looking at the "user registered" date for the last poster before me.

Day 8 - Once again: smash 'em in the face damit!

Once again I must say where from most of the sales will come: your index page! Heres stats:

http://www.adultcomicspost.com/smash.gif

As you can see almost 200 visitors didn't even passed index page so they even clicked on my ad or on one of the resipc (now you can see why link lists request recips ;) ). So on index page put your best ad on the top right under your site name and money will come ;)

I made and submitted one more free site with Sextronix.com links but tomorrow I'll start with submitting free sites with Pussycash.com links because they have cool promo offer and you never should miss chance to get some extra cash! They don't have hentai or toon sites so I'll add to my shared hosting account one more domain so I can track how much bandwidth I'll burn.

Please note that all stats I published so far is for hentai-toons niche which is relative small so from tomorrow you'll see how much other niches generates traffic ;)

It's a friday damit! Did you tough that I would write too much? :moon
Weekend is here so let's get drunk and high! Stay cool!
Iggy :moon

I decided not to post cash flow simply because most of people can get a simple fact: this is bussines, work and you get paid for it. :)
After 30 days I will post all sponsors stats but first you must see what I have done to get that money. :2 cents:

send me icq :thumbsup 270-269-078

Great work iggy. Looking forward to your next update.

im tuned in to the end buddy, good job and keep it up!!

Iggy - what program are you using to get stats like that?

the only thing i don't like about hosting at ISPrime is that stats are pretty weak..

Get www.weblogexpert.com - lite version is free.
Download server logs and then analyzer it with webexpert :)

bump :thumbsup

stupid, u made me beleive there was a real update to this thread

yeah, aren't we due for an update here? I've been hittin refresh for the past 50 or so hours! :1orglaugh

we want updates :thumbsup

A day or two has passed. Any updates?

Some other day... lol

To be honest I didn't expect that my tut will get so much attention! I was surprised how many people don't know these things. I didn't update my thread for few days because I was replying on all emails,PM's and icq messages I got. If you didn't received answer from me please wait a day or two. You'll get it. :) . I want to thank you all for kind words and I whish my tut will help someone to make some bling bling.

Now, let's start brainstorming for today. I see a lot of people asking which sponsor is good and what site converts best. But that simply doesn't work that way! A sponsor doing great for me can do shitty for you and site that converts 1:100 for me can converts 1:1000 for you with same kind of traffic! That's just a fact so you'll need to find right sponsor for you and right niche for you. Do some tests and after that do some more. There is like 100s of sponsors and 1000s of sites so you'll need to find which of them will make you most bling bling.

This time I'll test gay niche with few sponsors. It will take 3-4 days and after than I'll switch niche and again do some testing with other niches 'till I find my cash cow.

For gay niche I picked gay domain: www.naughtygayoutpost.com . As you can see there is just few links for pay sites. When I get some time I'll put there a little review of each site on separate htm page to get some more SE traffic. More pages=more text=more SE traffic. I can't use my usual 404 traffic sponsors because they only deal with straight traffic so I'll use 2 new ones: Sextronix.com - they have a link option to redirect all foreign traffic to dialer and Freepassbucks.com - they pay 1$ per confirmed e-mail for 6 gay niche sites. Remember! I'll do some tests with my 404 traffic. If this two sponsors makes me no cash I'll simply chose another ones.

For gay niche there is a few bigger gay link lists but most of them require al least 40 pics per free site to get listed so I'll do free sites for them after I build two sites for general traffic link lists.

So here is my first gay free site: www.naughtygayoutpost.com/hotstuds4/ . As you can see I added a link to main page on domain on bottom of each page. If surfer isn't interested in site I am promoting on my free site I will give him a chance to pick another one ;)

Also, I already mentioned that you can put on second gallery link to top list and you can get additional traffic to your free site. To maximize your traffic on free sites simply make your own top lists and list only your sites! You can get very good free top list script at www.jmbsoft.com . So after I get 20 to 30 gay free sites I'll make my own gay top list and add my sites to it. In this way every surfers that see one of my free sites can get to another one of my sites so now I have more chances to get him interested in pay sites I am trying to sell. I'll even open my top list to public submissions but only for free sites because I wanna only link lists traffic on it!

I decided not to publish any stats 'till end of my tut! Most of people contacted me regarding how much I earned so far probably thinks that they can get shitloads of money simply doing 2-3 sites and thats it! Well this simply doesn't work that way. Most of adult webmasters I know works all day long and they get pay for it. If someone isn't ready to work hard and work hard every day this isn't job for them.

At the end... for tomorrow I'll show you how to make money out of 404 traffic. I'll build simple and effective 404 page that will make you nice $ ;)

Ok, stay cool everyone...
Iggy :ak47:

nice tut!

Looking forward to the 404 stuff - I just decided to see how much traffic I'm not taking advantage of cuz of 404's and it's an amazing #.

bump, love to see more

Just wanted to let you know I am really enjoying this thread. Keep it coming!

Nice thread dude

Iggy is da man if he can't do it no one can :winkwink:

[IMG]http://img30.*******/img30/3699/diabolical2.jpg[/IMG]

:thumbsup

Good post!

Sponsors (like Fastsize which pays $75 a sale ) rock!! And the tips on the 404s are good too. So much wasted traffic!!