Do You Think Its Good or Bad To Be Ruthless In This Biz?
 

I think its good to be ruthless most of the time.

Depends on who you're dealing with at the time I think.

You have to be a little to an extent... but I think relationships are WAY more powerful in this biz.

Depends on Who, What & Where.

I am surprised to see this. I like to get the best deal I can but you have to leave some meat on the bone.

I think if you are small, you're not in any position to be ruthless as you need to build, network and grow.,

If you are medium or large, it pays to be ruthless as it will make you reach the top or help staying there.

Coming from a sensitive girl's side, I think some people are just plain mean sometimes. But it is important to stand your ground to whoever. Being ruthless is at times very neccessary. I agree with the above that with some people you have to be. :2 cents:

It depends upon who you are dealing with

if they are making you money? no
if they are costing you money? then, fuck 'em

Maybe I should clarify it. I'm not saying being ruthless to the point where you're harming someone, but for example if you see an opportunity do you take it and keep it all to yourself or tell others in the biz about it?

I only tell others if it can help me make more money. :winkwink:

ruthless in any biz, that's if you plan to succedd, and No ruthless doesn't mean a dirty scoumbag...so it's good to be ruthless

Ruthless. However, unlike someone like Bill Gates, I still have morals and business ethics I am compelled by.

100% true

there's a difference between being RUTHLESS and just being smart

what bill do that's so wrong? all successful business people have walked that fine line.....name one pure ethical success business person.

You can be ruthless without being a prick. Personally for me, it's a happy medium. I'm a... well, a sweetie, but not so much that anyone dare think of shitting on me and getting away with it.

It's all about getting done what needs to be done without being a dickhead but at the same time without getting stepped on.

What he said :thumbsup

Wrong illegally? Nothing.

Bill Gates has no business ethics or morals. He steals ideas that are working for smaller companies and then uses the size and power of his company to take over and push all other companies out of the market.

Classic example, IE Vs. Netscape.

Define ruthless...If you mean cheating then no. If you mean just being prudent with business (like Bill Gates) then yes.

If being ruthless means being a fucking asshole and treating people like shit most of the time, then yes. However, you can still be ruthless and be nice to people, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Relationships Relationships Relationships... :thumbsup

I honestly hate doing business with ruthless assholes

true.


wall st. don't give a fuck about person issues or problem. bottom line is $$$$

It's hard to argue against anything that results in a better product for the consumers of an industry.

The only downside to this is the potential ruthlessness surrounding the idea. Quite simply, where did it originate? Today's innovation by the little guy is probably tomorrows "big announcement" from the well-funded big player.

Agreed. But the money is in people's bank accounts. Treat them like shit and that's where it will stay. ;)

I believe what actually happened was that Microsoft signed a contract with the people who developed Mosaic which said that they'd receive revenue from each sale of Internet Explorer. (Do Help--> About Internet Explorer and you'll see) As we all know, Microsoft gave IE away for free.

From a business perspective, first I wouldn't blame Bill Gates directly. He successfully implemented some awesome ideas and hit the bank. If any of us were in his shoes we would want the best people working for our company too. Second, I don't see Microsoft as immortal by any stretch. I started using Mosaic. I used Netscape when IE was shit. Then IE got better than Netscape. And now I use Firefox and wouldn't dream of going back to IE. If Microsoft can give me a better product, I'll use it. If not, fuck them. And yes, I think you can learn a lot from M$.

if you have a different approach to doing business and you know all the pieces of the puzzle yourself you should not teach others your modus operandi, that is not good business.

but it is good karma to help others in ways that do not hurt your own enterprise.

You're not talking about ruthless by the pure definition here KRL -- you're talking about ambition, greed, and smart business. Nothing wrong with those.

Ruthless would be listening to someone tell you about an idea, telling them you were going to work on it with them, and then cutting them out of the deal as it was just about to take off.

If you've got an idea and you see it through to profitability then that's not ruthless.

Yep, Bill Gates did that to both Apple and 3Com.

i see nothing wrong with that, it's all about using something to your advantage...i mean he did buy netscape, and made them millionaries, right? what he did was being ruthless and i'm sure more than 95% of business people would have done the same

edit-isn't there something called a confidently agreement?

Alot of us can't do everything we think of...

So analyze and prioritize the better ideas of yours that you may actually do yourself sometime in your lifetime & and set the others aside for people who look up to you and ask you what they could do.... people who you think might actually be able to make something of them.

If the run with one of your ideas and do well, you could have a new powerful resource and friend for life.

But definitely keep your best ideas that you see yourself doing in the future close to your chest.

Anyway, that's my :2 cents:

In this biz? I would say keep it to yourself. Outside? Hell no.. spread the news:winkwink:

heh, Netscape was once the fastest growing company in US history. I believe they grossed something like 100 million their first or second year.

Once Microsoft realized this, they destroyed them by giving away IE for free.

you must do what you think is right Luke

I've noticed that those who complain the loudest about another party's
ruthlessness, or "foul play", are often just fishing for others ideas etc. ... :2 cents: