My Buddy is up Shit Creek with no Paddle! Possible Statutory Rape Charges!
 

I'll give you guys a reader's digest version of what happened and let you be the judge. Sorry if it's a little long-winded but it's certainly a good read.

The community I live in we all share a recreation area with a pool, hottub, volleyball, and etc. A park for the community to share. We went out to the annual BBQ on Friday night and it ended with 3 friends and myself sitting in the hottub with a couple of younger ladies. I suck at judging ages but to me they looked around 19-20. There were 4 total and the youngest said she was 18 and the oldest 21. We sat in the hottub and drank but nothing happened that night.

The next day around 1ish someone knocked on my door. I answered it and it was one of the girls from the previous night. She said that she remembered where I lived since I mentioned it in one of our conversations. No problem. She comes in and we're all just lounging around doing a bunch of nothing. She's wearing a bikini and asking us to go back down to the pool. All of a sudden the fun starts. She goes on telling us how she was a cheerleader in H.S. and was doing splits and other funky stretches on my living room floor...IN A BIKINI!!! This goes on for about 30 minutes. My buddy (whom I won't name just in case so we'll call him Stan) strikes up a conversation with her as she sits in his lap. This is where it becomes FUCKED UP!

We end up watching a movie and they're on my couch making out the entire time. Heavy petting continues and we joke about them getting a room. It's nighttime now and we all decide to go out to the pool. During the day, more friends trickled over and there were about 8 of us total hanging out in the pool. Stan and his new girl were doing their thing in the hottub and we notice that she had her top off. Water is splashing around as she's bouncing in his lap. It's obvious they're fucking. Switching positions and even bold enough to be only half submerged most of the time. We're cheering him on and people are looking from their porches to see what the commotion was all about. They wrap it up in about an hour and she scurries off because she HAS A 10:00 CURFEW!!! WTF!?!?! A 19 year old with a curfew?

DRAMA ENSUES....

The next day I'm sitting out by the pool and one of my community friends sits next to me and we engage in converstation. I'm telling him the story of the previous night and he stops me dead in my tracks. He described the girl and confirmed her name...even as far as to detailing what bikini she had on. He asked me how old Stan was and I told him 31. OH CHRIST!!! He tells me that the girl that Stan fucked, the girl that drank at my house, the girl that was doing splits in my living room was only 15 FUCKING YEARS OLD!!!! She's down for the summer living with her dad and she's only 15! HOLY SHIT! Stan is in some pretty big trouble!

Now I don't think she would say anything but too many people saw what was going on in the hottub. Too many people saw them making out by the pool. Too many people for this to not get reported. If Stan gets out of this mess, he'll be a lucky man! My only argument is that she was steadfast about her age. How was Stan to know she was only 15? She honestly looked 20+!

I feel for Stan and he's shitting bricks! Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

FREE STAN!!!

"She goes on telling us how she was a cheerleader in H.S."

Umm don't you think that was a sign right there? Nothing personal but your friend is a fucking idiot. :2 cents:

If she has misrepresented her age to a bunch of people that can back Stan up maybe he won't get into too much trouble.

the fact that she performed so many public sex acts should have been the first warning

lol

Bitches fucking lie!

rule number one - keep your mouth shut - stop telling people - stop frontin' you knew she was 15

ouch lol

I've met girls my age (30) that still brag about being cheerleaders in H.S.! I think that had nothing to do with it. 18-21 year old girls are immature by nature (most of them) so I'm sure he took it with a grain of salt.

Not to sound like a pervert, but this girl was pretty hot and Stan was under the assumption she was 19, as was everyone else. I wouldn't have even let the girl in my house if I knew she was only 15! :mad:

Does Stan live in the same complex as you or is he a visiting friend? If he's visiting, I suggest he not come back until after Labor Day. :glugglug

if anyone finds out....stan is fucked!
even if you meet a girl in a nightclub with a fake i.d....if you fuck it....you are still able to be charged...i have seen it happen!

besides...with the way she was acting..he should have known she was young....

i could tell just by the 2nd paragraph.....

That sucks dude, I guess the ball is in her parents park is it not ? Its up to them if they decide to prosecute your friend or not.

Thats all fucked up dude. He should have known 15 is a lot different than 18-21.

Not in this day and age, my friend. 15 year old girls aren't built like they were when I was 15! With some you can tell, with others...you're shit out of luck!

A girl tells you she's a cheerleader and the red flag doesn't go up instantly?

You better hope she doesn't have a conservative father and a big mouth or someone's ass is going up the river.

Deny everything and hope that her pussy wasn't swabbed with a rape kit the day after.

DENY DENY DENY! Longer it goes, less likely there is for physical evidence.

Ignorance is not a defense:2 cents:

what you going 2 do *When* she comes back, for some more cock:Graucho Don't lie.

Better still what's your friend going to do?

Stupid situation to get into, but all signs show that this girl is a major slut, and not some young girl this guy corrputed. Chances are no charges will be filed, but definitely possible. Basically, I mean this probably isnt the first older guy she did this with.

She openly stated that she USED TO BE a cheerleader in H.S. Not that she currently was one. If she would have said, "I'm a cheerleader in H.S." then yes, her ass is out. She stated, "I used to be a cheerleader in H.S." meaning past-tense.

I pride myself on being very logical and having a lot of common sense and her cheerleading comment or actions didn't even pique any curiousity or concern. I wish I would have taken a picture (clothed of course) just so you all could have a visual of what this girl looked like. I never in my wildest dreams would have guessed her age to be 15!

:slap:

ASSUMPTION IS THE MOTHER OF ALL FUCKUPS!

Live by this rule!!!

them little girls a getcha every time

AMEN!!!

I have heard tons of these stories and It's due to stories like this that makes me act like the 7-Eleven down the street. If you look under 30 bring the ID are no hagging with me!!!

some girls usually do that, they tried to look mature, they are in hurry to grow old

If you're going to fuck with young girls (18+) like that...

Live like a photographer... get id.

Work it into the conversation somehow... tease her about it, or tell her about the hidden dancing bear in the hologram of certain people ID's or something - anything to get a peek.

If she doesn't have her ID... tell her you wanna take her to XYZ 18 and over club because XYZ band/group is playing there so let's go get it....
If she's down to go get it, then just make a call on your cell to confirm that the gig at XYZ is still on and be bummed when you find out it's not. IF she was willing to go get the ID then she probably is 18.

just goes to show how stupid guys can be to fall for any chick who sits in their lap. Pavloff's dog - he deserves everything he gets

if I was you I'd stop telling people about it

You guys are 31. If you are so worried about being caught fucking underage girls (not sure how old she "might" be), why do you not stick to girls that are 23-24? by that age you can usually be pretty sure that age is not an issue.

30+ year old men looking for 18 year old girls to fuck, when the girls are better looking, and KNOW HOW TO FUCK BETTER when they are 23+

It sucks that this happen, but maybe your friend brought it on himself? You guys need to start fucking girls a little bit older.
Even if nothing happens this time, there is always NEXT time, and at the rate you guys are going, there WILL be a next time, Time to stop looking for girls, and find some WOMEN! :thumbsup

He's an easy man whore, so he should go to jail? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

The guy copped a raw deal. It sickens me that chicks can lie, fuck whoever they want, and then have the guy charged when they start to feel guilty about how much of a dirty slut they are.

another dumbass thinking with penis instead of brain...30 yr olds hanging out with teenagers, sounds pathetic. My hubby would have snapped both your necks if that would have been my daughter....when you are an adult, you should be able to determine such things... think for fucks sakes!

I'm not sure about you, but if you're sitting in a hottub and some 18 to 21 year olds join you, are you going to say, "no"? I think not! We are men and as long as they're 18 they're women. When we go out to bars we look for women in our age group. This was a spontaneous meeting and we didn't actively seek them...the actively sought us. They were the ones that initiated the conversation and she was the one that came to my house the next day. Not the other way around.

We weren't looking for the shit, we just stepped in it.

C_U, I usually agree with your takes but this one is way, way, way off base. Following your logic, anyone over the age of 30 that gains membership to teen sites is "pathetic". BarelyLegal, Barely18, etc are cash cows simply because older men are intrigued by younger women.

Once again, we didn't actively seek their companionship. We were hanging out by the pool and they decided to join us. Under the assumption they were all legal, we did absolutely nothing wrong.

Exactly! "AS LONG AS ..."

That is exactly my point ... as tempting as the little nymph might be, why take that chance and ruin your life?

Besides in my experience most 18 year old girls are not completely in tune with their bodies yet, and are not as good fucks as girls like I say maybe 23 or 24+

I am not lecturing you or shaming you, only try to give some friendly advice.

I totally understand, Barney. I agree with you with most of your comments. Older women are much better in bed due to the fact that they are in-tuned with their bodies much more than an 18 year old. However, if you were sitting in a hottub and a hot 18 year old came in with you, you'd be an idiot to kick her out. :2 cents:

No, you'd be an idiot to fuck her in front of several people without asking for proof of age. :1orglaugh

Ok...

If stan was a visiting friend...
tell him that he need's to stay away from the place

Tell him it's a good idea if he NEVER comes back there
*yes it's that fucking serious

Also...
Don't repeat this story anymore...

Tell Stan to forget this shit ever happened..
but don't forget the lesson learned

I doubt that girl will snitch on herself....

but still....
I doubt she fully remembers stan's first and last name by now

Tell Stan to NEVER ever talk to this chick again...

On purpose or not..
he commited a serious crime*

the penaltys are serious..

So he needs to treat this just as if he accidently murdered somebody....

To review

Stay away from the area
Don't talk about the story AT ALL
Cut all communications with the girl....

If that chick asks you about Stan in the future...
Feed her some bullshit

When she asks you about him..
Say "Oh you mean my buddy Stan (fake last name)

then...

Tell her that Stan took a new job somewhere
and you haven't talked to him that much lately

Nothing will happen, no one prolly cares.....she has probably done this a lot if she was willing to do it then....

he may have a little stalker on his hands, but I doubt a rape charge

ogling younger girls is not pathetic, its nature..dude, you let her in your house to hang out and do splits and wierd shit for you guys.. now if that did not set off warning bells I don't know what would... Girls are more mature than guys and if she was 18 or 19 she probably would not have been acting like an insecure adolescent in need of attention cause daddy didnt give it to her.
:2 cents:

ps. I hope she doesnt get pregnant.. most girls that are 15 arent on birthcontrol yet....OY!

lol this is too funny

I hope he wrapped it up...if he didn't lets pray shes not pregnant.....then my friend...thats when shit would truly hit the fan. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

OK ... are you really as ignorant of the law as you come across?
ASSUMPTIONS hold no weight at all in front of a judge, Judges and juries deal ONLY in facts. The country would be in a whole heap of shit, if we sent people to the chair only ASSUMING that they committed the crime.

As far as the prior comment about BARELY18 goes, BARELY18 is fully compliant with USC 18 ss2257.

There is no guessing if the girls are legal or not.

My advice to you if you are going to keep chasing after girls more than 10 years your junior, is that you ask for at least 2 pieces of government issued photograph ID. That might just keep your ass out of jail :winkwink:

I'd be an even bigger idiot if she turned out to be only 15 :Graucho

This is serious and quite frankly if the girl actively sought out this guy, then I highly doubt she'll openly divulge this information. If someone other than her parents can make the complaint, then it may be a problem.


As for him not knowing - in this day & age, I think you should ask for ID everytime. As for the way she looked - I was 12 and people thought I was 22-23. I was even proposed to when I was 13 by some loser who thought I was 25 (he had seen me at a few weddings-yet never bothered to ask around) Needless to say, I was very well built for a 12 year old - since I couldn't wear children's clothes or shoes anymore, I was obliged to 'dress older' & although it wasn't provocative in the least (sicilian mothers like their daughters covered up) the fact that it wasn't pink & frilly usually made me catch the eye of older men. So, HighOnAcid, I could understand where you guys were coming from - but like I said earlier, in this day & age, kids are alot more 'sexually' involved/curious so asking for ID is the safest thing next to asking her parents for her age.

always thinking with the little head instead of the big one

I have enough self discipline to tell whatever 19 (or in this case a 15) year old girl to fuck off for this exact reason... I dont need this shit in my life and he should have been smart enough to control his dick.

Thats why those who survive in this industry have common sense not to fuck the models and treat it like a business rather than their personal sandbox. I have had girls come onto me, and have turned them down - now instead of making money, hes going to be turning nylons in jail as someones bitch.

absofuckinlutly!!!

but I doubt it...rubbers and water is certainly not a great combination...

also if he had rubbers he was probably thinking he was going to have sex with the girl..

how many people carry condems to swimming pools???

Anyway and I not trying to be a smart ass but this is just plain fucken stupid.. And by the way I would certainly not let any girl that could possibly be less than 21 drink at my house...

not your fried Stan is gone and she is living in your development and odds are she will be back....

Not for dick either--just to drink--which is just as bad!!!

In the United States, statutory rape is not a crime that requires that the defendant know the girl is underage. Basically the law says that at a certain age and below, the girl is unable to consent due to immaturity. In the facts described above, if the age of consent is 16+, your friend may have a serious problem.

Good advice that your friend can rely on will depend alot on the jurisdiction you live in. The age of consent for the USA varies from 14 to 18 depending on state. Canada is 14 I believe.

I would never advise anyone to purposely move to avoid prosecution, but if there is no active prosecution or investigation yet, it may be in his best interest to make himself scarce.

Its really easy to preach what he "should" have done after the fact, and when you have info that he didnt.

In reality how many guys would boot a hot 20 year old looking girl out of thier house, on the off chance that she is a incredibly mature 15year old thats lieing her ass off.

Its ridiculous. If she really did look as old as you say, then stan got the shaft.

no such thing.

any real man can tell a 15 year old apart from a woman.

the guy was DOUBLE her age.