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Odin88 06-09-2004 02:09 AM

Cracker's Here Is Your Future
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Ar...058740,00.html

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One demographer, who didn't want to be named for fear of being called racist, said: 'It's a matter of pure arithmetic that, if nothing else happens, non-Euro peans will become a majority and whites a minority in the UK. That would probably be the first time an indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority in its historic homeland.'

Lee Jasper, race relations adviser to the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, predicted a similar future, telling The Observer : 'Where America goes, Europe follows 30 years later. There is a potential for whites to become a minority in some European countries.'

In Britain, that is almost certain to happen in London, and in the relatively near future. 'At the moment ethnic minorities are about 40 per cent in London. The demographics show that white people in London will become a minority by 2010,' said Jasper. 'We could have a majority black Britain by the turn of the century.'
America did not save Britian, France and Europe from an invasion in WWII - they only delayed it...

Corleone 06-09-2004 02:11 AM

then fuck more & make kids

Joe Citizen 06-09-2004 02:16 AM

Oh no! A black Britain!

What a tragedy.

:1orglaugh

:glugglug

Odin88 06-09-2004 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
then fuck more & make kids
Why don't you get with reality idiot. Working families who seek to maintain even a decent standard of life in Europe can only afford so many children (usually around 2). But rather than help them afford and be encouraged to improve the birthrate the brilliance of European Governments has instead decided to import millions upon millions of immigrants to fill their place.

Odin88 06-09-2004 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Oh no! A black Britain!

What a tragedy.

:1orglaugh

:glugglug

From the guardian article:

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She added: 'There is a white panic every time one part of their world seems to be passing over to anyone else. But it's foolish to panic about it. So what if WE do become a majority? What difference does it make?'
Yes, the death of a 40,000-year-old indigenous white population and its culture is a tragedy. Not that I expect you to see this, for you are too busy to make the distinction and obvious comparisons between this and American cultural imperialism in such places as the Middle-East (something which you strongly oppose). Perhaps if you didn't have shit for brains you could better understand the similarities between such situations.

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 02:32 PM

It is amazing how little interest this sparks. Or perhaps people are afraid to talk about it?

We are in the middle of the largest experiment on the human species ever conducted, and while the validity and motive for this experiment is questionable to say the least, the effects are far-ranging and most likely permanent in many ways.

ytcracker 08-10-2004 02:38 PM

pretty soon we will all be just one big melting pot and all one race

that will be cool

fr8 08-10-2004 02:40 PM

The white gene is not a dominant trait. Were screwed.

wdsguy 08-10-2004 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
pretty soon we will all be just one big melting pot and all one race

that will be cool


hell naw it wouldn't. Uniqueness makes things interesting. Fuck the big melting pot idea, that is just a utopian idea that won't bear fruit

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
pretty soon we will all be just one big melting pot and all one race

that will be cool

Yeah, forget all about diversity and uniqueness. Let's all become one people with one government, and preferably, with one ideology. That'll be soooo cool. We'll just kill all who dissent from our enlightened communist ideology of genocide, poverty, and sub-excellence. If a dangerous virus comes along, that'll be cool too, because since we are all sharing almost identical genetical prints, we'll all die together. All in the same boat kind of thing, y'know?

SykkBoy 08-10-2004 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
It is amazing how little interest this sparks. Or perhaps people are afraid to talk about it?

We are in the middle of the largest experiment on the human species ever conducted, and while the validity and motive for this experiment is questionable to say the least, the effects are far-ranging and most likely permanent in many ways.

maybe most of us just don't give a fuck...
ooh geez, future generations might have more pigment in their skin...oh what a terror

Tom_PMs 08-10-2004 02:46 PM

I dont get it.

Prowler 08-10-2004 02:49 PM

time to move to montana and join the militia :BangBang:

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
maybe most of us just don't give a fuck...
ooh geez, future generations might have more pigment in their skin...oh what a terror

Ooh geez. Nature created many different races. Oh, what a terror. Ohh geez, look, some of the races are embarrassing the others by creating civilization. We must annihilate the achievers to satisfy our inferiority complexes. Ohh, the terror.

Gunni 08-10-2004 02:58 PM

Odin88, it is people like you that make other people afraid of asociating them selfs with nationalistic ideas, fucking nazi pricks. Noone wants to be asociated with a bunch of fanatics that belive them selfs to be superior to other people :321GFY

Just so everyone knows what I'm talking about, Odin was a pagant god of the vikings, something most Neo-Nazis are facinated by, and 88 stands for the 8th letter of the alphabet H, 88=HH= Heil Hitler

You fuckers are no better than the muslim fanatics spreading terror, Skinheads=Terrorists

skillfull 08-10-2004 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Gunni
Odin88, it is people like you that make other people afraid of asociating them selfs with nationalistic ideas, fucking nazi pricks. Noone wants to be asociated with a bunch of fanatics that belive them selfs to be superior to other people :321GFY

Just so everyone knows what I'm talking about, Odin was a pagant god of the vikings, something most Neo-Nazis are facinated by, and 88 stands for the 8th letter of the alphabet H, 88=HH= Heil Hitler

You fuckers are no better than the muslim fanatics spreading terror, Skinheads=Terrorists

we all breath the same air
so, who fuckign care about ehich color i am ?

and just for your information

multi-ethnic ppl have overall better health and have better defense against virus ;)

we are all human

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by skillfull
we all breath the same air
so, who fuckign care about ehich color i am ?

and just for your information

multi-ethnic ppl have overall better health and have better defense against virus ;)

we are all human

No offense, but you just set a new record in the average number of contractions per word uttered.

http://wwwrsphysse.anu.edu.au/admin/photos/prize.jpg

BradM 08-10-2004 03:25 PM

White people don't fuck enough anymore.

Odin88 08-10-2004 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Gunni
Odin88, it is people like you that make other people afraid of asociating them selfs with nationalistic ideas, fucking nazi pricks. Noone wants to be asociated with a bunch of fanatics that belive them selfs to be superior to other people :321GFY

Just so everyone knows what I'm talking about, Odin was a pagant god of the vikings, something most Neo-Nazis are facinated by, and 88 stands for the 8th letter of the alphabet H, 88=HH= Heil Hitler

You fuckers are no better than the muslim fanatics spreading terror, Skinheads=Terrorists

Thanks for your brain dump moron. The issue has been addressed several times and I am not a 'neo-Nazi'. 88 is not for HH and Odin is a great pagant God of the vikings (what is your point exactly? Is that racist somehow?). I am a nationalist, and a *fairly* liberal one at that. So please, next time before your brain explodes, make sure you step away from the keyboard, because noone here wants to hear your shit.

rambler 08-10-2004 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Thanks for your brain dump moron. The issue has been addressed several times and I am not a 'neo-Nazi'. 88 is not for HH and Odin is a great pagant God of the vikings (what is your point exactly? Is that racist somehow?). I am a nationalist, and a *fairly* liberal one at that. So please, next time before your brain explodes, make sure you step away from the keyboard, because noone here wants to hear your shit.
Actually I think a lot of people don't wanna hear your shit.

Why are you so scared of different races trying to get along peacefully and trying to make this world a better place for everyone( not just one race)?

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by rambler
Actually I think a lot of people don't wanna hear your shit.

Why are you so scared of different races trying to get along peacefully and trying to make this world a better place for everyone( not just one race)?

Why are *you* so scared of races ACTUALLY EXISTING and living in peace? Why are *you* so scared of diversity? It is the multiculturalists and the politically correct who are pushing through mass scale immigration and the conflict and hate that ensues. By aligning yourself with them, you are the instigator and the hater, not people like Odin.

chupachups 08-10-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Thanks for your brain dump moron. The issue has been addressed several times and I am not a 'neo-Nazi'. 88 is not for HH and Odin is a great pagant God of the vikings (what is your point exactly? Is that racist somehow?). I am a nationalist, and a *fairly* liberal one at that. So please, next time before your brain explodes, make sure you step away from the keyboard, because noone here wants to hear your shit.

You´re so full of shit. What does 88 stand for if not Adolf Hitler? Also - "encouraged to improve the birthrate the brilliance of European Governments has instead decided to import millions upon millions of immigrants to fill their place" - do you know what you are talking about? Decided to import? Are you an european citizen?

Odin88 08-10-2004 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
You´re so full of shit. What does 88 stand for if not Adolf Hitler? Also - "encouraged to improve the birthrate the brilliance of European Governments has instead decided to import millions upon millions of immigrants to fill their place" - do you know what you are talking about? Decided to import? Are you an european citizen?
What does 88 stand for? Do a search monkey, because I am not explaining it again. Quite frankly I don't really give a shit what YOU think it stands for, because you are as irrelevant to me as I am to you.

Gunni 08-10-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Thanks for your brain dump moron. The issue has been addressed several times and I am not a 'neo-Nazi'. 88 is not for HH and Odin is a great pagant God of the vikings (what is your point exactly? Is that racist somehow?). I am a nationalist, and a *fairly* liberal one at that. So please, next time before your brain explodes, make sure you step away from the keyboard, because noone here wants to hear your shit.
Yeah, so your nick just happens to be one of the most common one of nazi chat boards along with thor18, thor88 and odin18 + *whatever famous nazi*18 or 88

Paganism has become a symbol (unfortunately) of noe-nazis, I've seen countless of them here in Spain wearing old viking runes tattoos. I actually got into a bit of a brwl with a few of them for letting them know they probably had more Jewish and Arab blood in them than "Arian".
The hammer of Thor being the most popular neo-nazi symbol today, so paganism and nationalism hold hands today (a sad thing for a very interesting religion like that of my ancestors).

chupachups 08-10-2004 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
What does 88 stand for? Do a search monkey, because I am not explaining it again. Quite frankly I don't really give a shit what YOU think it stands for, because you are as irrelevant to me as I am to you.

You´re very right about that. Would you care to enlighten me? You know, you could say the number "666" was your amount of braincells but I still do associate it with something else.

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
You´re so full of shit. What does 88 stand for if not Adolf Hitler? Also - "encouraged to improve the birthrate the brilliance of European Governments has instead decided to import millions upon millions of immigrants to fill their place" - do you know what you are talking about? Decided to import? Are you an european citizen?
But they have indeed decided to import foreign races; that is the known, publicised goal of many European countries. For example, public schools in many European countries have "multicultural day" once a year where the students are told that the country is supposed to be a multi-racial heaven, and that "biggoted anti-immigrants" is what is keeping that dream from coming true. In my school, they even invited the youth faction of the communist party of our nation to give speeches. Another example is that every time there is a European discussion about banning another party on the right, or a hate-crime, the leading politicians always go out in the media with statements like, "this nation isn't meant to be White" and "we are going to achieve multiculturalism."

Where the fuck do you live, Cupachups? You don't seem to know shit about Europa.

chupachups 08-10-2004 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Gunni

Paganism has become a symbol (unfortunately) of noe-nazis, I've seen countless of them here in Spain wearing old viking runes tattoos.

Thank you for saying that Gunni. WTF Has Odin, Thor, Loke and the gang got to do with racism anyways?

rambler 08-10-2004 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Why are *you* so scared of races ACTUALLY EXISTING and living in peace? Why are *you* so scared of diversity? It is the multiculturalists and the politically correct who are pushing through mass scale immigration and the conflict and hate that ensues. By aligning yourself with them, you are the instigator and the hater, not people like Odin.
I agree with the saying "Live and let Live" .


I have no problem with races existing and living in peace and diversity but I also have no problem with them comming together (as you do).:)

Odin88 08-10-2004 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gunni
Yeah, so your nick just happens to be one of the most common one of nazi chat boards along with thor18, thor88 and odin18 + *whatever famous nazi*18 or 88

Paganism has become a symbol (unfortunately) of noe-nazis, I've seen countless of them here in Spain wearing old viking runes tattoos. I actually got into a bit of a brwl with a few of them for letting them know they probably had more Jewish and Arab blood in them than "Arian".
The hammer of Thor being the most popular neo-nazi symbol today, so paganism and nationalism hold hands today (a sad thing for a very interesting religion like that of my ancestors).

Your ancestors would piss on your head if they could see the weak, pathetic tool that you are. Christianity and pedophilia hold hand in hand too, and Judaism and Zionist hate also run hand in hand, yet it is highly unlikely you would link all members of either of these groups with those few soles that do a poor job of representing it.

Oh hang on, I guess this whole generalisation, stereotype, witch-hunt thing is acceptable when it comes to nationalism (ONLY Euro-Nationalism that is), it is just a problem when it involves a 'minority' or someone who has rather liberal outlook on life. At least Stalin would be proud I guess.

chupachups 08-10-2004 03:57 PM

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[i]

Where the fuck do you live, Cupachups? You don't seem to know shit about Europa. [/B]
I live in Sweden/Spain and I cant say I get your point?

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
You´re very right about that. Would you care to enlighten me? You know, you could say the number "666" was your amount of braincells but I still do associate it with something else.
It's interesting how you persist to try to turn a legitimate discussion into an attack on the person behind the argument.

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
It's interesting how you persist to try to turn a legitimate discussion into an attack on the person behind the argument.
Not at all, sorry for that. So, don´t dodge the question. I would very much like to know what "88" exactly is?

Odin88 08-10-2004 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
Not at all, sorry for that. So, don´t dodge the question. I would very much like to know what "88" exactly is?
IF you would like to know than search for yourself: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/newsearch.php . If I was a 'neo-Nazi' I would admit it, for I would never fear what I truly believe. For to fear what you believe, is to not believe at all in my opinion. If you don't want to take my word for it than I don't really care, and I will simply advise you that you are wrong and move on. Hiding behing 'codes' and such is not who I am, if you believe you know me better than I know myself than by all means, believe what you will.

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by rambler
I agree with the saying "Live and let Live" .


I have no problem with races existing and living in peace and diversity but I also have no problem with them comming together (as you do).:)

We agree on some points then, but I can confidently say that I see the larger and more realistic picture of races "coming together." Not only will conflict and hate and racism and whatnot directly result from the "coming togetherness," the races will also ultimately cease to exist, therefore destroying diversity.

What would you say the argument for "bringing the races together" would be? I have tried to get an answer to that question before, but I only get "uhhhh," "love utopia," "more exotic foods available for everyone," and "easier access to translators" in return.

Can I please have an answer to that simple question, or can we start to conclude that multiculturalists are irrational, insane even?

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:11 PM

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[i]

What would you say the argument for "bringing the races together" would be? I have tried to get an answer to that question before, but I only get "uhhhh," "love utopia," "more exotic foods available for everyone," and "easier access to translators" in return.

Can I please have an answer to that simple question, or can we start to conclude that multiculturalists are irrational, insane even? [/B]
I agree, those answers dont fool anyone:1orglaugh

But, then again, why are you so against it?

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
I agree, those answers dont fool anyone:1orglaugh

But, then again, why are you so against it?

I just told you. Primarily because it is destroying the diversity that I love to begin with, but also because it brings nothing but conflict, hate, and chaos.

Why are you for it?

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 04:21 PM

I'm waiting. If you don't want to be responsible for giving a lot of people the impression that multiculturalists are nothing but irrational hate-mongerers or weak-minded victims of propaganda, you should come up with some good arguments and then share them with us.

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
I just told you. Primarily because it is destroying the diversity that I love to begin with, but also because it brings nothing but conflict, hate, and chaos.

Why are you for it?

I dont think it necessarily has to bring hate, conflict and chaos but, I would agree its badly taken care of as of now. Diversity, sure its great, but its not exactly like the races are disappearing though one single race is inevitable in the end. You cant stop it the snowball once it started to roll, how could you? We are getting more and more "global" every passed minute so why(or how) try to stop something thats destined?

rambler 08-10-2004 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
We agree on some points then, but I can confidently say that I see the larger and more realistic picture of races "coming together." Not only will conflict and hate and racism and whatnot directly result from the "coming togetherness," the races will also ultimately cease to exist, therefore destroying diversity.

What would you say the argument for "bringing the races together" would be? I have tried to get an answer to that question before, but I only get "uhhhh," "love utopia," "more exotic foods available for everyone," and "easier access to translators" in return.

Can I please have an answer to that simple question, or can we start to conclude that multiculturalists are irrational, insane even?

First of all we are all part of one race it's called "The human race".

I think Your "realistic" picture of races coming together has no rational evidence to support it, as different breeds have been mixing for centuries to create other breeds.



I believe the term is "evolution" (unless you believe in religion; which has absolutely not a shred of evidence to back it) is the arguement for bringing the races together would be .

ANYWAYS:
If people want to mix then what do you propose to do to stop it?

uchase/webpry 08-10-2004 04:30 PM

half of africa is infected with the AIDS virus, give it another 10 years and the problem will solve itself.

Odin88 08-10-2004 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
half of africa is infected with the AIDS virus, give it another 10 years and the problem will solve itself.
Not true. All those able and from Africa are simply trying to move to the West. It would be much better for Africa to be a stable continent in my opinion, but the odds of that happening any time soon are slim to none.

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by rambler
First of all we are all part of one race it's called "The human race".
You are being irrational. The human species has a subset of breeds or population groups that we humans have labelled as races for a very long time now. Call them inexistant, or even zorgs if you wish, but know that denying the existence of different human breeds lumps you into a fringe opinion minority.

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Originally posted by rambler
I think Your "realistic" picture of races coming together has no rational evidence to support it, as different breeds have been mixing for centuries to create other breeds.
Some admixture does not make people everywhere of the same race, and does not in any way justify attempting to make them so, therefore you are being irrational again.

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Originally posted by rambler
I believe the term is "evolution" (unless you believe in religion; which has absolutely not a shred of evidence to back it) is the arguement for bringing the races together would be .
How exactly is that an argument for bringing the races together? Evolution is what enabled the various human populations to take on differing genetic traits to begin with. You are being irrational, and laughable.

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Originally posted by rambler
If people want to mix then what do you propose to do to stop it?
The whole precept here is that multiculturalists are the instigators of the change, not us. Therefore you are now being irrelevant.

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Not true. All those able and from Africa are simply trying to move to the West. It would be much better for Africa to be a stable continent in my opinion, but the odds of that happening any time soon are slim to none.

Yes, true that.

rambler 08-10-2004 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
You are being irrational. The human species has a subset of breeds or population groups that we humans have labelled as races for a very long time now. Call them inexistant, or even zorgs if you wish, but know that denying the existence of different human breeds lumps you into a fringe opinion minority.

Some admixture does not make people everywhere of the same race, and does not in any way justify attempting to make them so, therefore you are being irrational again.


How exactly is that an argument for bringing the races together? Evolution is what enabled the various human populations to take on differing genetic traits to begin with. You are being irrational, and laughable.

The whole precept here is that multiculturalists are the instigators of the change, not us. Therefore you are now being irrelevant.

I can see having a rational discussion with you is beyond your mental abilities as, no matter what I say, you will just dismiss it as being irrelevant.

But I will ask you again; what do you propose to do to stop the mixing?(besides whining on an adult webmaster board)

Linguist 08-10-2004 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Gunni

The hammer of Thor being the most popular neo-nazi symbol today, so paganism and nationalism hold hands today (a sad thing for a very interesting religion like that of my ancestors).

Idiot.

So because I'm a pagan and have nordic pendants/am of nordic origin I'm a neo-nazi?

Get a clue. Seriosuly.

Assosiation of symbols like that with neo-nazism is what scaring people away.

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
Idiot.

So because I'm a pagan and have nordic pendants/am of nordic origin I'm a neo-nazi?

Get a clue. Seriosuly.

Assosiation of symbols like that with neo-nazism is what scaring people away.


Did you actually read what he wrote - "a sad thing for a very interesting religion like that of my ancestors" and "Paganism has become a symbol (unfortunately) of noe-nazis"?

Linguist 08-10-2004 04:49 PM

Of course I did read what he wrote.

People like him are generalizing pagans and neo-nazis into the same category.
Following his logic (paganism and neo-nazism holding hands), I'd be labeled a neo-nazi just from how I look.

EDIT: Ok, name calling might have been harsh, but it just angers me when people do this, not only on the board, but in real life too. And no, I'm not whining, just asking some people to get a clue and become more educated about this.
It's the same as calling all muslims terrorists.

Extremists of all sorts should be hung by nuts.

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
Of course I did read what he wrote.

People like him are generalizing pagans and neo-nazis into the same category.
Following his logic (paganism and neo-nazism holding hands), I'd be labeled a neo-nazi just from how I look.

No I dont think so, he is saying the same thing as you.... anyways... sad development, I think so too.

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by rambler
I can see having a rational discussion with you is beyond your mental abilities as, no matter what I say, you will just dismiss it as being irrelevant.
I explain the reasoning behind my opinions and conclusions, therefore enabling you to argument against them at will. You are being a sore loser who want to end the match.

And what was that I said about attacking persons instead of arguments? It's not very productive for your image.

Please, don't admit defeat yet. All I asked for was a rational reason for what we know as multiculturalism, preferably one that justifies its widely admitted negative consequences (conflict, hate, racism, and less admitted or realized; loss of diversity in the long run).

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Originally posted by rambler
But I will ask you again; what do you propose to do to stop the mixing?(besides whining on an adult webmaster board)
For myself, I will make money and try to find ways to combat the negative trend.

As for a general proposal; let your opinions be known, and if your opinions are illegal (as it is in many European countries), let your opinions be known together with other people, in as public a venue you can find.

Linguist 08-10-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
No I dont think so, he is saying the same thing as you.... anyways... sad development, I think so too.
Right, it can be interpreted both ways, especially the "*whatever famous nazi* instead of "odin" or thor" part, him being certain that 88 means something about hitler (when being told that this is not the case), and saying that heathenism and paganism are holding hands together.

I do see that he might have not meant it and retract the "idiot" statement. My apologies to Gunni.


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