I Received Some FACTS on Dave Stodghill -->
 

Last night I challenged everyone... ANYONE to provide facts on David Stodghill. This is what I wrote (the facts I received this morning will be written about after the bold/italics):

Like I said, I see some disturbing threads about Dave.

People just need to get some facts and then I'll be all for them dogging on him. Is that poster still around so he can post a follow up? I don't think so. That's too bad. I'd like to see him post what eventually happened, and then I'd like to see Dave reply to him.

I care a LOT about business. That's why I say stuff like this in threads about Dave. The kids on this board care about drama. They don't care about facts. Business works based on FACTS and not on ALLEGATIONS.

I've spoken to Dave on the phone before. And for every single accusation that he's been accused of he has a good, logical answer that makes perfect sense. Since those accusing him never have concrete proof, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

I firmly believe in "innocent until proven guilty". I think Dave MAY be a not-so-good guy. But what I THINK doesn't matter. Only what can be PROVEN matters.

All I can say is that he's never scammed ME. And he's never scammed any of my close friends.

And that's a FACT.



This morning I received the FACTS I requested. Unfortunately for me I had to promise not to reveal the source. I wish I could, but this person requested more than once that I not reveal the source. Also, if I even mentioned the nature of the FACTS, it might allow Dave to determine the source.

I believe in "innocent until PROVEN guilty". I would like to thank the person that provided the proof. Dave will never again receive a word of support from me. In fact, if someone convince me that they'll stick out a case against Dave and have a chance to win it and I'll help with the legal bills.

Is Dave awake yet?

I do like the way that you don't make judgement until you hear some good, concrete evidence..... I'm the same way.

However I tend not to support something that so many other people hate and that I'm ambivalent towards...

Anyways, cheers :thumbsup

congrats for your turn around, but you should have known better

I still prefer to work on facts alone when attacking someone's character or reputation.

I think we need to talk.

Donovan, I understand your reasoning behind last nights posts of yours...

But let me say this... I have been in biz since 1998 and I only call someone a black sheep when in fact they are a black sheep. I do not run around like you said last night throwing useless fictional acusations.

I respect your position 100%

I would be interested in this proof as well.

I'm leaving for san diego in a couple hours, so will be offline for awhile, but if you want to email me [email protected] I'd love to see this proof (and any information shared will be held in the strictest of confidence).

I would love to show it to you... but can't. I made a promise to the person that provided the information.

I am quite serious. I would help IF you have what would be considered as PROOF in a court of law. Courts don't care about he said / she said type stuff.

fair enough

DonovanPhillips - Hit me up on ICQ:143702021, in a few minutes (I'm juggling ICQs right now).

Donovan, at least, you have seen some of it.
But, I am sure, its just the tip of the icebreg.

For as my ordeal.

Sykk, Headless, Dig and many others know what all went on with me and others know also.

I don't wake up one morning and just start flaming someone for the hell of it. In fact, Dave is the ONLY one I have ever went after. I have reason too.

Just with my ordeal. He honestly thinks, I woke up one day and just randomly start making banners for him, expecting money. I never talked to the piece of trash before until he contacted me and hired me to do work.
Funny as it seems, no one has had any problems with me or my work, except Dave. That only happened when payment came due. he took off with my work and never paid.

For as Randy. We are friends, only through common interest with Dave and the stealing he's done thru them.

He done the same with Tia also.

He changes his stories so often, he doesn't know the truth if it hit him in the head. When things get tough for him. He cries that people are picking on him for the hell of it.

For as everyone else. I'm sure they had no reason to bitch at him unless there was a reason.

If he has never scammed anyone. Then why does he feel the need to change handles until someone else sniffs him out?

Good that you see some of it.
if you ever wanna see my proof and ICQ logs. Holler at me and I'll show you everything.

Dave is the worst in this biz.

As they say. Where their is smoke, there is fire.

does anyone else find that amusing coming from him :1orglaugh

I dont trust him at all. He has changed like 20 nicknames in a year and everytime he pretends he is someone else. This alone is enough.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Unbelievable. I don't know which is funnier.

Donavan I personally thank you for making this thread. I have a lot of respect for a man who can own up. I will admit that it was not a nice thing to do, to post dave's mothers number when I did.

But I did not do it to harass the lady, I did it so those who have been wronged by him, had at least some clue of how to find him. As for anybody wanting to follow through with legal action against him, my time and my paypal account are there for the asking. I will also be happy to add slander and defamation of character to any charges anyone wishes to bring against him.

It's the 1% of the guys like him in this business, that cause 90% of the problems for guys who try to play it straight.

JG

real certified anal retentive idiots