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Dildozer 06-07-2004 09:22 PM

Terrorists will strike majorly before the elections and Bush will win by a landslide
 
Unfortunately, seems like "terrorists" will cause havoc, America will declare war on some other country and voting against Bush will be "anti-american"

You'll see :(

cluck 06-07-2004 09:23 PM

What better way to destroy america then get bush elected as president?

zzgundamnzz 06-07-2004 09:24 PM

Wherever it is I hope its not in my area...

LA has alot of landmarks.

:helpme

Psytonic 06-07-2004 09:26 PM

well I don't know about America but I don't think there's an apparent terrorist threat to Australia at the moment. But hey I think an attack could happen at anytime, when you least expect it

Dildozer 06-07-2004 09:29 PM

Now i need to know is how do you think this will affect interest rates?

Carlito 06-07-2004 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Now i need to know is how do you think this will affect interest rates?
It is a 100% FACT that re-electing BUSH, will ensuure that interest rates hit, and stay at all time lows (lower than they have) - The economy right now is stronger than it has been in some ten+ years, its just transparent to alot of people right now, they don`t see it in everyyday life, but the long term is solid.

Also, re-elect Bush and stop being a treehugger, and watch gas prices hit record lows as well. :thumbsup

Carlito 06-07-2004 09:42 PM

Also, an extremely respectable source of facts to back my opinion:

www.walterwilliams.com - read some of his essays, my favorite Black man ever.

serious 06-07-2004 09:46 PM

i could see it happening..

happened in spain no?

Ash@phpFX 06-07-2004 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psytonic
well I don't know about America but I don't think there's an apparent terrorist threat to Australia at the moment. But hey I think an attack could happen at anytime, when you least expect it
why do you think that?

btw where in australia are you?

Carlito 06-07-2004 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by asher
why do you think that?

btw where in australia are you?

Also heard from some academics that Australia would be prime for China to take over in the next century, to combat their screwed up society.

mastamind 06-07-2004 10:11 PM

i could see something like that hapening that would be crap

Dawgy 06-07-2004 10:12 PM

im sure bush will have the terrorists attack again, then magically they will find bin laden, and bush will get re elected. its a great plan, just wonder if he can cover it up.

SuckOnThis 06-07-2004 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlito
It is a 100% FACT that re-electing BUSH, will ensuure that interest rates hit, and stay at all time lows (lower than they have) - The economy right now is stronger than it has been in some ten+ years, its just transparent to alot of people right now, they don`t see it in everyyday life, but the long term is solid.

Also, re-elect Bush and stop being a treehugger, and watch gas prices hit record lows as well. :thumbsup

I want some of the drugs you're on.

gornyhuy 06-07-2004 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlito

Also, re-elect Bush and stop being a treehugger, and watch gas prices hit record lows as well. :thumbsup

Gas prices are the highest they've ever been in history. You think Clinton did that?

Carlito 06-07-2004 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
I want some of the drugs you're on.
www.walterwilliams.com - Along with a nice dose of logic every now and then.

jacked 06-07-2004 10:15 PM

yea if he had control of this country for another four years who knows what will happen... look what he's done this term

http://www.teenpiccentral.com/gfy/bush2.jpg

Carlito 06-07-2004 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gornyhuy
Gas prices are the highest they've ever been in history. You think Clinton did that?
Actually genius, they are exactly the same price they were in the 1950's - relative to the economy, GDP, etc.

Look it up.

Carlito 06-07-2004 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jacked
yea if he had control of this country for another four years who knows what will happen... look what he's done this term


They counted the votes numerous times, and had numerous results, and - after including alot of " lost " votes, along with the guys that weren't present for whatever reason, it leveled off, plus the actual electoral votes came from other states to make up for these problems.

Carlito 06-07-2004 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by gornyhuy
Gas prices are the highest they've ever been in history. You think Clinton did that?
Also, due to Environmentalist issues (clinton), two important refineries in California are shut down, slowing the entire process.

Lane 06-07-2004 10:25 PM

Gas prices move based on OPEC's decisions on production levels.

What does that have to do with the US economy?

Liberty 06-07-2004 10:26 PM

you must be french?

Carlito 06-07-2004 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
Gas prices move based on OPEC's decisions on production levels.

What does that have to do with the US economy?

I was answering someone elses GAS question.

Carlito 06-07-2004 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liberty
you must be french?
I almost moved to Costa Rica, how is it there?

FlyingIguana 06-07-2004 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Unfortunately, seems like "terrorists" will cause havoc, America will declare war on some other country and voting against Bush will be "anti-american"

You'll see :(

bs, the democrats will show their own way of dealing with terrorism while hammering away at what bush did wrong.

reynold 06-07-2004 10:54 PM

Is it too much too wish for a peaceful election?

ehulk81 06-07-2004 11:06 PM

yup i agree

cherrylula 06-07-2004 11:09 PM

This terrorist bullshit is all lies.

Why hasn't there been a major attack on Los Angeles yet?

I fucking live here and if some crazy arab wanted to kill a bunch of people at once he could pull it off here in Los Angeles with no extra effort.

I call bullshit, until Universal City is up in flames its all a fucking joke.

SuckOnThis 06-08-2004 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlito
It is a 100% FACT that re-electing BUSH, will ensuure that interest rates hit, and stay at all time lows (lower than they have) - The economy right now is stronger than it has been in some ten+ years, its just transparent to alot of people right now, they don`t see it in everyyday life, but the long term is solid.

Also, re-elect Bush and stop being a treehugger, and watch gas prices hit record lows as well. :thumbsup


Everything about this statement is complete bullshit.

Interest rates are not going to stay at an all time low, or even lower as you say with Bush. Everyone already knows they are going to raise the rate 1/4 percent in the near future. The federal reserve controls the interest rate, not Bush.

WTF are you talking about that the economy is better than its been in 10 years? Where the fuck were you 5 years ago?

When Bush took office gas prices were below $1.50 a gallon, now they are over $2.00 a gallon. So what kind of twisted logic are you using saying with Bush they will go to an all time low? And whats your idea of 'all time low'? 15 cents a gallon?

Carlito 06-08-2004 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Everything about this statement is complete bullshit.

Interest rates are not going to stay at an all time low, or even lower as you say with Bush. Everyone already knows they are going to raise the rate 1/4 percent in the near future. The federal reserve controls the interest rate, not Bush.

WTF are you talking about that the economy is better than its been in 10 years? Where the fuck were you 5 years ago?

When Bush took office gas prices were below $1.50 a gallon, now they are over $2.00 a gallon. So what kind of twisted logic are you using saying with Bush they will go to an all time low? And whats your idea of 'all time low'? 15 cents a gallon?

Interest rates went down because of the strength of the enconomy, do you remember the major jumps in the stock market following the election? Then, of course, it all leveled off looking not so well for a long time, I was hearing everyday that " Nasdaq dropped 7 points today " But then, suddenly, not too long ago I started hearing increases, its because of the economy, which is influenced by lower TAXES, because when Americans have more money left out of their paycheck, they spend it, and that helps the economy. When small businesses are paying less taxes, they hire more people, or otherwise restructure and things improve, also helping the economy (trickle down), this is why the Federal Reserve could help the rates, because the economy is stronger. Believe it or not, the government also makes more tax money when this happens, because of sales taxes.

Like I said, the economy is better in transparent ways, that people like you will not see.

They will go to an all time low WHEN Bush's plans to drill in the permafrost of whatever the fuck that is in Alaska, or, is removes the EPA bullshit enough to establish producing oil rigs off the coast of California, thus lowering the need for foreign oil, and thus lowering the costs, and blah blah blah, figure it out.

rickholio 06-08-2004 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by Carlito
www.walterwilliams.com - Along with a nice dose of logic every now and then.
I'd love to view that site... unfortunately it seems to go to some sort of bizarre framed up search engine thingie that makes my popup blocker scream.

Call me skeptical, but I find it dubious that there'd be any fiscal wisdom coming from a site that feels it necessary to jam a bunch of popups onto my screen and, when failing, falls back to a 'search engine'.

However, as you seem to be completely enamoured of this particular pundit, perhaps you can enlighten us on how the economy is stable when:

- People's average savings rate is less than 2% (that's AVERAGE, mind you, not median... meaning there's a whole lot saving less, and probably NONE, to offset the richer types who can afford to sock it away)

- The average citizen is in debt up to his eyeballs, with the average personal debt nearly that of GDP, and climbing. A whopping 42% either don't pay, or make minimum payments, on their outstanding CC bills.

- A realestate bubble exists that is built on top of very low interest rate loans to the aforementioned average citizens who're in debt to finance those homes, many on razor-thin margins of comfort beyond the loan payments, such that an increase to interest rates would cause foreclosures and bankruptcies on a major scale.

- That the treasury has been printing greenbacks like a madman and selling them to foreign banks to help cover the massive trade imbalance, and that interest rates will have to rise to ward off inflation when those foreign banks reach the limits of their tolerance for absorbing these debt tickets in lieu of actual trade. Rember that all those dollars are cheques, and one day those foreign banks will come calling to cash those cheques.

Right now, things are crappy but obviously could be a lot worse. I do not, however, share your optimism in the future of the USD as a solid currency under the current situation. I would be much more enthusiastic if the following policies were put in place:

- Balance trade. This is probably the biggest issue to affect the country overall. The mindless consumption has to come to an end before the whole game torques itself into a hyperinflationary spiral.

- Give people incentives to save some money and not mortgage their lives away on frivilous and useless bullshit. Raising interest rates would be a good way to do this, but with obvious bad results given that most people are in debt to the teeth right now. In any event, the current trend of spend spend spend before you earn is A Bad Thing(tm) and will come to an ugly conclusion.

However, as neither of those situations seem likely at the moment, I'll put more of my faith in the Euro, Yen or Renminbi.

I will say that there's a certain amount of truth to the Bush = Low Interest Rates scenario you suggested. If you look at the Fed's actions in the past, he's generally cut interest rates for republicans, increased them for democrats. Whether or not he does that because he's politically motivated or because the fiscal policies in place at the time demand his action is a matter of debate, but traditionally GOP = Low interest rates (for good or ill).

rickholio 06-08-2004 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
When Bush took office gas prices were below $1.50 a gallon, now they are over $2.00 a gallon. So what kind of twisted logic are you using saying with Bush they will go to an all time low? And whats your idea of 'all time low'? 15 cents a gallon?
Gas prices are, indeed, quite low if you look at it in inflation-adjusted dollars. Here's a graph of inflation-adjusted gas prices from the dept. of energy:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub...pump-price.gif

Yes, the recent upswing in gas prices is unfortunate (particularly in a time of fierce fiscal hardship for most average people), but really the $2/gal thing is just a psychological barrier that's being naturally crossed as inflation does its thing.

Rich 06-08-2004 01:28 AM

I don't think Americans are as stupid as CNN tells them they are. Another terrorist attack won't make the masses flock to Bush in some sort of blind daze like the media is saying they will. The people realize Bush is incompetent and putting them in more danger every day, and another attack would only prove that more. I don't think even bringing out Bin Laden can save this sinking ship. :2 cents:

John Kerry is the next President of the United States, like him or not you'd better get used to him.

kmanrox 06-08-2004 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Unfortunately, seems like "terrorists" will cause havoc, America will declare war on some other country and voting against Bush will be "anti-american"

You'll see :(

it's quite to the contrary... if we get terrorized then bush will get voted out of office even quicker than he already is :2 cents:

on more selfish perspectives, hopefully ashhahahahaha will be leaving with him!

Rich 06-08-2004 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlito
It is a 100% FACT that re-electing BUSH, will ensuure that interest rates hit, and stay at all time lows (lower than they have) - The economy right now is stronger than it has been in some ten+ years, its just transparent to alot of people right now, they don`t see it in everyyday life, but the long term is solid.

Also, re-elect Bush and stop being a treehugger, and watch gas prices hit record lows as well. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

I don't even know where to start. As long as you're happy with your intelligence level, I guess that's all that counts. :glugglug

I love the record low gas prices Bush is giving us these days at the expense of the environment and stability in the middle east. Did I say record low? I meant record high. Well, I guess it takes 2 terms to actually see ANY results, right? That's always the Republican excuse, the world sucks when we're in power because of the democrats, but the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years was our work. Shit these guys should stop being so generous and FOR ONCE reap the benefits themselves, because every time a Republican takes the office, the US goes to complete shit. Fucking democrats.

Everyone's in love with Reagan this week, remember how that stupid bastard spent trillions on nukes but zero on aids? And he's the best of the bunch. :1orglaugh

rickholio 06-08-2004 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlito
The economy right now is stronger than it has been in some ten+ years, its just transparent to alot of people right now, they don`t see it in everyyday life
Which reminds me of a sig I've seen...

"All I know about the bush administration is that under Clinton I had a JOB."

The economy may be doing okay for the rich assmonkeys who have complete mobility and can abandon the sinking ship when it starts to tank, but seems to be doing very little for the increasingly marginalized 'little guy' who feels privilaged to hold down an $11/hr job after pushing himself into $30k of debt to get a degree.

Wal-Mart part timers may count as 'employed' on the charts, but it's hard to feed a family on the miserly stipend they dole out... even harder after they enforce mandatory 'contributions' to various organizations they deem worthwhile.

pure energy 06-08-2004 02:57 AM

Not Bush again, please!

SuckOnThis 06-08-2004 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
:1orglaugh

I don't even know where to start. As long as you're happy with your intelligence level, I guess that's all that counts. :glugglug

I love the record low gas prices Bush is giving us these days at the expense of the environment and stability in the middle east. Did I say record low? I meant record high. Well, I guess it takes 2 terms to actually see ANY results, right? That's always the Republican excuse, the world sucks when we're in power because of the democrats, but the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years was our work. Shit these guys should stop being so generous and FOR ONCE reap the benefits themselves, because every time a Republican takes the office, the US goes to complete shit. Fucking democrats.

Everyone's in love with Reagan this week, remember how that stupid bastard spent trillions on nukes but zero on aids? And he's the best of the bunch. :1orglaugh

Great fuckin post dude. :thumbsup

slackologist 06-08-2004 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlito
It is a 100% FACT that re-electing BUSH, will ensuure that interest rates hit, and stay at all time lows (lower than they have) - The economy right now is stronger than it has been in some ten+ years, its just transparent to alot of people right now, they don`t see it in everyyday life, but the long term is solid.

100% fact.. hahahahahhahahahahhahahahah. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nofx 06-08-2004 03:32 AM

terrorists might do something to the g8 summit that is today on June 8th.

I kinda hope something does happen :x its all about the worlds wealthist nations anyways. Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United States. they invited egypt, but they delcined.

http://www.g8usa.gov

Entropy 06-08-2004 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rickholio
Gas prices are, indeed, quite low if you look at it in inflation-adjusted dollars. Here's a graph of inflation-adjusted gas prices from the dept. of energy:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub...pump-price.gif

Yes, the recent upswing in gas prices is unfortunate (particularly in a time of fierce fiscal hardship for most average people), but really the $2/gal thing is just a psychological barrier that's being naturally crossed as inflation does its thing.

Looks like the prices dipped during Clinton's administration and started rising during Bush's...

=^..^= 06-08-2004 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Unfortunately, seems like "terrorists" will cause havoc, America will declare war on some other country and voting against Bush will be "anti-american"

You'll see :(

If theres another attack his ass will get kicked hard for not setting up enough prevention and for fueling a war which has enraged more peopel than it's pacified

EviLGuY 06-08-2004 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Unfortunately, seems like "terrorists" will cause havoc, America will declare war on some other country and voting against Bush will be "anti-american"

You'll see :(

That could very well happen.. I dont believe anything is too far fetched when it comes to Bush anymore.

Can you imagine how much more damage he could do in 4 more years if re-elected?

FlyingIguana 06-08-2004 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlito
Interest rates went down because of the strength of the enconomy, do you remember the major jumps in the stock market following the election? Then, of course, it all leveled off looking not so well for a long time, I was hearing everyday that " Nasdaq dropped 7 points today " But then, suddenly, not too long ago I started hearing increases, its because of the economy, which is influenced by lower TAXES, because when Americans have more money left out of their paycheck, they spend it, and that helps the economy. When small businesses are paying less taxes, they hire more people, or otherwise restructure and things improve, also helping the economy (trickle down), this is why the Federal Reserve could help the rates, because the economy is stronger. Believe it or not, the government also makes more tax money when this happens, because of sales taxes.

Like I said, the economy is better in transparent ways, that people like you will not see.

They will go to an all time low WHEN Bush's plans to drill in the permafrost of whatever the fuck that is in Alaska, or, is removes the EPA bullshit enough to establish producing oil rigs off the coast of California, thus lowering the need for foreign oil, and thus lowering the costs, and blah blah blah, figure it out.

economy is strong? shit is about to hit the fan over the next 12 months or so. it could begin with a big currency drop which can cause a market crash. high inflation with low growth is a possibility and if something bad does happen there's really nothing to turn to in order to help the economy.

interest rates dropped because of the weakness in the economy

mardigras 06-08-2004 07:26 AM

War is good for the economy overall even if the average person doesn't reap it's benefits... not to mention someone has to build the stuff to replace what we've exhausted over there.

All of the people (including high level cabinet members) who say an attack is coming must be lying because GW said at the Air Force Academy the other day that because of their actions America is much safer today than before.

NBDesign 06-08-2004 07:29 AM

IMO.... if we get hit again... the american people should see that as a sign of FAILURE on the part of the president... not an accomplishment and not support him and re-elect him. :2 cents:

alexg 06-08-2004 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious

happened in spain no?

not really...
the spanish cowards elected another leadership BECAUSE of the terror attack

EviLSuperstaR 06-08-2004 07:53 AM

Al-Qaeda wants Bush to win the elections of course. Bush's incompetence has boosted Al-Qaeda recruitment and now the inefficient war on terror with an Iraq invasion has made Al-Qaeda stronger than ever before.

Thanks Bush, you chickenhawk asshole...

Goose 06-08-2004 07:55 AM

it's always the same...the good guy, bad guy scenario

Daisy 06-08-2004 07:56 AM

I would think that would cause him to lose the election. In Spain it knocked the powers out. Are people want to feel safe and an attack would prove he failed.

Rick Latona 06-08-2004 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Daisy
I would think that would cause him to lose the election. In Spain it knocked the powers out. Are people want to feel safe and an attack would prove he failed.
I agree with this statement.


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