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directfiesta 05-31-2004 06:03 PM

For memorial day: pretty fucked up story....
 
long but worth the read, mainly the part where Japan prohibits the wife to go back to North Korea.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...rles_ap203.jpg
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North Korea's mystery guest

By Sarah Buckley
BBC News Online


The last person you might expect to find in North Korea is an American soldier, especially one who has chosen to stay there voluntarily.
But Charles Robert Jenkins has been in the isolated North since 1965. When offered a ticket to Tokyo by visiting Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi last week, he refused.

He desperately wants to be reunited with his Japanese wife, who returned to her homeland in 2002 after Pyongyang admitted kidnapping her and several others in the 1970s.

But if he joined her, he would risk arrest by the US military, which accuses him of desertion.

The 62-year-old American GI disappeared from duty on 5 January 1965, when he was serving in South Korea to help guard the armistice which ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

He was leading a patrol near the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ), when he told his platoon he was going to investigate a noise. He never came back.


Days later, his arrival in North Korea was broadcast over the loudspeakers on the DMZ, according to Nobuharu Kumada, a Japanese man who says he served with Mr Jenkins.

The US military has said Mr Jenkins left behind four notes which stated his intention to defect.

"I am sorry for the trouble I will cause you. I know what I have to do. I am going to North Korea. Tell family I love them very much. Love, Charles," one of the notes, allegedly left near his footlocker, is reported to have said.

But James Hyman, a nephew in North Carolina, said that the military has no hard evidence of his uncle's supposed defection, and believes instead he was kidnapped.

He pointed out that the army lost the original copies of the notes.

"Of course they weren't able to be found. There were no four letters," he told BBC News Online.

[The quoted note] "was signed 'Love, Charles,' and the family didn't know him as Charles. They knew him as Robert or 'Super'," Mr Hyman said.

He said his uncle was a loyal serviceman who would not have deserted.

"Every time I saw him he always had his uniform on," Mr Hyman, who was four years old when he last saw Mr Jenkins.

Life in the North

The only person who knows the truth is Mr Jenkins himself, and he has given very few media interviews.

He told a Japanese magazine in 2002 that he was living happily in North Korea, and thanked the country's leader Kim Jong-il for his good treatment.

But it is difficult to ascertain how far Mr Jenkins' comments reflect the truth in a country which operates close surveillance and does not tolerate disloyalty.

North Korea's propensity for disinformation could also explain the incriminating radio broadcasts, and his appearance, according to the Pentagon, in a North Korean propaganda film called Nameless Heroes.

Mr Jenkins met his wife, Hitomi Soga, in North Korea, as her English teacher. Mr Jenkins told the Japanese magazine they were drawn together by their mutual loneliness, and they married in 1980 - a union, he said, which brought them great happiness.

Ms Soga has since written a letter to Mr Hyman saying that Mr Jenkins "was a caring husband and a loving father, and... always put others before himself".

This domestic contentment was shattered in October 2002, when the Japanese Government arranged for Ms Soga, and four other kidnap victims, to visit their home country for the first time since their abduction in 1978.

Mr Jenkins said he had only learned the truth of his wife's history two weeks before.

The homecoming was supposed to be brief, but Tokyo never allowed the five to return, and went on to campaign for their families to join them.

Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi succeeded in bringing about that reunion for the families of four of the abductees last week, after talks with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il.

But he failed to persuade Mr Jenkins, and the couple's teenage daughters, Belinda and Mika, to come to Japan too.

The Pentagon has charged Mr Jenkins with desertion and five other related charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Lieutenant Commander Flex Plexico told the BBC that the alleged letters and propaganda broadcasts amounted to "pretty strong evidence".

Media reports say Mr Jenkins could face up to five years in jail if convicted. Lieutenant Plexico would not be drawn on possible penalties.

"It all depends upon a lot of circumstances and what arrangements are made in advance. There's too many variables to give an honest answer," he said.

Tokyo has pledged to lobby Washington to pardon Mr Jenkins, but the US Government has not given any indication that it will listen.

Mr Hyman said he had made it his life's work to help his uncle, and was confident he would eventually be cleared.

"The lawyer that I'm talking with (says) it's very probable.

"He has done numerous presidential pardonings and he says this is very do-able... it's too many unanswered questions."



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merlin77 05-31-2004 06:05 PM

Yeah, I read that story a while ago. It's just crazy.

baddog 05-31-2004 06:07 PM

he is a deserter, he knew what the consequences were when he did it . . . . fuck him

untitled 05-31-2004 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
he is a deserter, he knew what the consequences were when he did it . . . . fuck him
that bastard! damn right he knew the consequences of getting kidnapped, just like those damn children, why do they do it?!

baddog 05-31-2004 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by untitled
that bastard! damn right he knew the consequences of getting kidnapped, just like those damn children, why do they do it?!
kidnapped? can you read or comprehend what you read? he defected, he left notes saying he was defecting, he is a deserter. he is a criminal, not a victim.

untitled 05-31-2004 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
kidnapped? can you read or comprehend what you read? he defected, he left notes saying he was defecting, he is a deserter. he is a criminal, not a victim.
maybe you skipped some paragraphs. why the hell would he defect, for the great oppurunities of north korea, please... the north koreans were known to kidnap people.

baddog 05-31-2004 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by untitled
maybe you skipped some paragraphs. why the hell would he defect, for the great oppurunities of north korea, please... the north koreans were known to kidnap people.
so, if he is innocent, why doesn't he go to Japan and take his day in court?

baddog 05-31-2004 07:17 PM

and before you come up with some crap about not being able to get a fair trial . . . wouldn't an America prison be better than living in N. Korea?

wdsguy 05-31-2004 07:17 PM

the govt need to forget that shit already, its been so long.

reynold 05-31-2004 07:22 PM

That is a very disturbing story. :(

wyldblyss 05-31-2004 07:25 PM

What I don't get is this: Abducted is 1978, married in 1980 and allowed to return home in 2002. What kind of kidnappers allow you to take english classes, get married and have kids?

Am I missing something?

untitled 05-31-2004 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
and before you come up with some crap about not being able to get a fair trial . . . wouldn't an America prison be better than living in N. Korea?
he was probably forced to stay there by the koreans for a long period of his life, and once he had a family there he probably had little desire to leave, who knows he might have defected, doesn't make sense though

Face (o_0) 05-31-2004 08:21 PM

uh... too long :(

baddog 05-31-2004 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by untitled
he was probably forced to stay there by the koreans for a long period of his life, and once he had a family there he probably had little desire to leave, who knows he might have defected, doesn't make sense though
yeah, it has to be our fault . . . . blame it on Bush

pure energy 06-01-2004 02:00 AM

I never liked sad endings.


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