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jawanda 05-30-2004 06:08 PM

PPC Finally Working Like It Should
 
I've always thought that if visitors are clicking on a link that says "Credit Card Required... bla bla bla" my conversion ratio should be great. They know they need a cc before they even get to the page, how could they be freeloading?

But until now, my PPC conversation ratios have not been stellar, in fact I was just breaking even.


UNTIL NOW - Finally found a good smaller PPC engine, and although it takes a little longer to get the traffic, it's converting like a mother fucker.

1:105

$37 spent, $160 grossed.

Can't complain about that, just got to get more keywords and make the traffic come a bit quicker.

How do you guys convert with PPC?

-p

VeriSexy 05-30-2004 06:10 PM

Which PPC do you use? Google?

WiredGuy 05-30-2004 06:12 PM

Congrats, PPC is definitely a solid business model once you can perfect your niche and get it working right. Now wanna share which PPC engine that was :)

WG

jawanda 05-30-2004 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Congrats, PPC is definitely a solid business model once you can perfect your niche and get it working right. Now wanna share which PPC engine that was :)

WG

Lemme check if they have a referral program, brb ;)

-p

stev0 05-30-2004 06:14 PM

Sweet deal, let me guess... kanoodle?

Furious_Male 05-30-2004 06:16 PM

Sounds like you have a little gem of an engine. Do share :winkwink:

WiredGuy 05-30-2004 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Male
Sounds like you have a little gem of an engine. Do share :winkwink:
How did I know you'd be in here :winkwink:
WG

Furious_Male 05-30-2004 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
How did I know you'd be in here :winkwink:
WG

The same reason you are. I felt the thread from the other room :winkwink:

WiredGuy 05-30-2004 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jawanda
Lemme check if they have a referral program, brb ;)

-p

Do tell, I'll use your ref code if they have.
WG

calmlikeabomb 05-30-2004 06:19 PM

I love those great finds :)

I do this all the time. The secret is don't tell anyone wouldn't want things to become over saturated now would we :winkwink:

It's great being able to spend $30 and gross +$200

WiredGuy 05-30-2004 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Male
The same reason you are. I felt the thread from the other room :winkwink:
LOL

Furious_Male 05-30-2004 06:31 PM

Ok Jawanda is going to make us wait. I will ctrl-d this and sign up under your ref as well if its an engine I am not currently using.

How is the volume looking from the PPC engines for you tonite WG? Down around 30% for me tonite.

WiredGuy 05-30-2004 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Male
Ok Jawanda is going to make us wait. I will ctrl-d this and sign up under your ref as well if its an engine I am not currently using.

How is the volume looking from the PPC engines for you tonite WG? Down around 30% for me tonite.

Conversions or traffic is down for you?
Yesterday was one of my best Overture days but Google/Findwhat has been down the last few days. Go figure.

WG

wdsguy 05-30-2004 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Congrats, PPC is definitely a solid business model once you can perfect your niche and get it working right. Now wanna share which PPC engine that was :)

WG

Any tips for a PPC newbie on finding a good niche of keywords within a certain category to target?

thanks :thumbsup

jawanda 05-30-2004 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
Any tips for a PPC newbie on finding a good niche of keywords within a certain category to target?

thanks :thumbsup

Most PPC engines have keyword finder tools, where you can type in a general word like "Amateurs" and it will tell you the top search terms that contain that word.

Other standard rules, state the price in your ad in order to minimize worthless clicks, and keep it as relevent as possible.

WG, I know you're the expert, why don't you give us all some tips?

BTW, The PPC I'm using DOES have a referral program, but I have to wait for my account to be 'approved' before I get credit. I've got this thread bookmarked and I'll post the link as soon as I get approved.

-P

wdsguy 05-30-2004 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jawanda
Most PPC engines have keyword finder tools, where you can type in a general word like "Amateurs" and it will tell you the top search terms that contain that word.

Other standard rules, state the price in your ad in order to minimize worthless clicks, and keep it as relevent as possible.

WG, I know you're the expert, why don't you give us all some tips?

BTW, The PPC I'm using DOES have a referral program, but I have to wait for my account to be 'approved' before I get credit. I've got this thread bookmarked and I'll post the link as soon as I get approved.

-P

thanks for the help, I got this thread bookmarked too. What about in terms of how much to pay for keywords, any general guidelines for that?

WiredGuy 05-30-2004 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
Any tips for a PPC newbie on finding a good niche of keywords within a certain category to target?

thanks :thumbsup


Definitely start with a small niche that you can achieve high ROI. For example, start with squirting pussies or hairy girls. These small micro-niches can get you a better ROI than teens or mature or hardcore. From there, you can start tweaking your advertising to increase your ROI. Once you've tested out a few campaigns with a couple PPC engines, you can start to expand into bigger niches.

If you have specific questions, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them.

WG

69pornlinks 05-30-2004 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Yesterday was one of my best Overture days but Google/Findwhat has been down the last few days. Go figure.

WG

How's findwhat overall, i just didn't want to jump thru hurdles for them, they wanted me to verify i was an adult to use adult keywords. i figure it was a waste of time.

Furious_Male 05-30-2004 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Conversions or traffic is down for you?
Yesterday was one of my best Overture days but Google/Findwhat has been down the last few days. Go figure.

WG

Conversions are about the same. Traffic has really dropped with Findwhat even on "free" terms.

WiredGuy 05-30-2004 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 69pornlinks
How's findwhat overall, i just didn't want to jump thru hurdles for them, they wanted me to verify i was an adult to use adult keywords. i figure it was a waste of time.
Get in contact with a sales rep, I have a sales rep there I contact whenever I add a new campaign and he expediates everything for me without any hassles. Their editors are a hassle but once you're approved, it's clear sailing from there. The 5c minimums are a bit of a hassle, but I like their keyword matching tool they added a few weeks ago. Makes it easier to get more keywords covered by your bids (similiar to Overture's matching tool).

WG

WiredGuy 05-30-2004 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Male
Conversions are about the same. Traffic has really dropped with Findwhat even on "free" terms.
You're right, I'm looking at my accounts now and only one of them has high traffic, the rest seem rather low.

WG

Martin 05-30-2004 07:28 PM

There is a couple of PPC SE's out there that are gold mines.:)

69pornlinks 05-30-2004 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Get in contact with a sales rep, I have a sales rep there I contact whenever I add a new campaign and he expediates everything for me without any hassles. Their editors are a hassle but once you're approved, it's clear sailing from there. The 5c minimums are a bit of a hassle, but I like their keyword matching tool they added a few weeks ago. Makes it easier to get more keywords covered by your bids (similiar to Overture's matching tool).

WG

will do, thanks :thumbsup

bhutocracy 05-30-2004 07:38 PM

anyone know any good ppc se's with geo targetting? besidse adwords i mean.

wdsguy 05-30-2004 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Definitely start with a small niche that you can achieve high ROI. For example, start with squirting pussies or hairy girls. These small micro-niches can get you a better ROI than teens or mature or hardcore. From there, you can start tweaking your advertising to increase your ROI. Once you've tested out a few campaigns with a couple PPC engines, you can start to expand into bigger niches.

If you have specific questions, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them.

WG

thanks for the tips :-)

Do you have any suggestions in terms of picking out keywords? I am just checking out the different tools provided by overture and google to find keywords for now that are not saturated. also I am abit confused on how to determine how much to bid for on keywords.

jawanda 05-30-2004 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
thanks for the tips :-)

Do you have any suggestions in terms of picking out keywords? I am just checking out the different tools provided by overture and google to find keywords for now that are not saturated. also I am abit confused on how to determine how much to bid for on keywords.


You just need to look at what other people are bidding, and decide where you want to be in the listings.

Depending on the engine, get yourself in the top ten then see how the traffic is. If it's adequate and it converts, up your bids and get yourself into the top three.

When you are paying too much and it's not profitable, obviously you will need to adjust your bids as well as your listings.

I'm no expert, but I can tell you, it takes some time and patience (and $$) to find a good balance.

-P

wdsguy 05-30-2004 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jawanda
You just need to look at what other people are bidding, and decide where you want to be in the listings.

Depending on the engine, get yourself in the top ten then see how the traffic is. If it's adequate and it converts, up your bids and get yourself into the top three.

When you are paying too much and it's not profitable, obviously you will need to adjust your bids as well as your listings.

I'm no expert, but I can tell you, it takes some time and patience (and $$) to find a good balance.

-P


Thanks for the tip bro :thumbsup

Do you stay away from keywords with free in it? I'm just thinking those clicks would waste your money as those surfers are less likely to pay for porn.

jawanda 05-30-2004 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
Thanks for the tip bro :thumbsup

Do you stay away from keywords with free in it? I'm just thinking those clicks would waste your money as those surfers are less likely to pay for porn.

It depends. If you are using a 'free' email-only program, you may be alright using keywords with 'free' in them.

On the same note, if your listing says "Free trial for adults with credit cards etc etc" ... you are doing a bit of pre-targeting and you might be alright.

"Free" can definitely bring in some clicks, though.

-P

Strife 05-30-2004 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jawanda
BTW, The PPC I'm using DOES have a referral program, but I have to wait for my account to be 'approved' before I get credit. I've got this thread bookmarked and I'll post the link as soon as I get approved.

-P

:thumbsup

D.I.H. 05-30-2004 08:59 PM

HE is talking about SEARCHFEED

for example:
http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/SearchR...amateur+p orn



They are good you just need to know how to use them/target correctly. Findwhat is also good but again you have to have a fair concept of how to get the correct surfers in there. Dont think quantity think quality. I know I hate seeing the trickle and every now and again and go and try to boost up the clicks but its best to trickle instead of trying to make it overflow if ya know what I mean.

This may help a few of you, now excuse me while i go open another can of sp..... I mean :helpme

jawanda 05-30-2004 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by D.I.H.
HE is talking about SEARCHFEED

for example:
http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/SearchR...amateur+p orn



They are good you just need to know how to use them/target correctly. Findwhat is also good but again you have to have a fair concept of how to get the correct surfers in there. Dont think quantity think quality. I know I hate seeing the trickle and every now and again and go and try to boost up the clicks but its best to trickle instead of trying to make it overflow if ya know what I mean.

This may help a few of you, now excuse me while i go open another can of sp..... I mean :helpme

HEY COCKL, how did you know???

Not sure if I'll get credit, as my account is still not approved, but use my aff code if you want to:

http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/Adverti...ID=D8521217884

Rather than that other dudes who hijacked my shit :mad:

Thanks guys, this turned into a pretty good, informative thread.

-P

jawanda 05-30-2004 09:19 PM

One more bump for Strife, WG, and Furious.


:)

D.I.H. 05-30-2004 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jawanda
HEY COCKL, how did you know???

Not sure if I'll get credit, as my account is still not approved, but use my aff code if you want to:

http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/Adverti...ID=D8521217884

Rather than that other dudes who hijacked my shit :mad:

Thanks guys, this turned into a pretty good, informative thread.

-P

um hehe guess ill just :321GFY & :BangBang: myself now. :thumbsup

twistyneck 05-31-2004 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by D.I.H.
*hijack snipped*

They are good you just need to know how to use them/target correctly. Findwhat is also good but again you have to have a fair concept of how to get the correct surfers in there. Dont think quantity think quality. I know I hate seeing the trickle and every now and again and go and try to boost up the clicks but its best to trickle instead of trying to make it overflow if ya know what I mean.

This may help a few of you, now excuse me while i go open another can of sp..... I mean :helpme

Go eat a cock. I'm going to sign up but I'm not going to use your ref code. I'll use jawanda's because he started this thread and gave up some valuable information. You are just a cock smoking threadjacker.

Here is jawanda's ref code for anyone that missed it.

http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/Adverti...ID=D8521217884

Thanks jawanda.

D.I.H. 05-31-2004 12:17 AM

go right ahead

http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/Adverti...ID=D8521217884

you are saying that like i care . please do use his code in fact its right above ^

I was just letting you all know, theres no need to jump down my mine, you all asked I replied, have fun and happy earnings :thumbsup

Theo 05-31-2004 12:21 AM

you are stupid to share

D.I.H. 05-31-2004 12:30 AM

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