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KRL 05-29-2004 11:05 AM

For The WWII Vets
 
Salutes to those who sacrificed their lives during WWII.

Pics of the WWII Monument being dedicated today in Washington DC.

http://www.wwiimemorial.com/construc...n_monument.jpg

http://www.wwiimemorial.com/construc...starscurve.jpg

http://www.wwiimemorial.com/construc...nce_plaque.jpg

http://www.wwiimemorial.com/construc...-5sky_view.jpg

http://www.wwiimemorial.com/construc..._day_quote.jpg

nathan_f 05-29-2004 11:06 AM

i'm guessing a star for every fallen soldier? it's a fine monument. :thumbsup

KRL 05-29-2004 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nathan_f
i'm guessing a star for every fallen soldier? it's a fine monument. :thumbsup
40 Million People died in WWII. Top figure is Military, then civilian and the total for each country.


Country

Military

Civilian

Total

Soviet Union
13,600,000
7,700,000
21,300,000

China
1,324,000
10,000,000
11,324,000

Germany
3,250,000
3,810,000
7,060,000

Poland**
850,000
6,000,000
**6,850,000

Japan
1,506,000
300,000
1,806,000

Yugoslavia
300,000
1,400,000
1,700,000

Rumania*
520,000
465,000
985,000

France*
340,000
470,000
810,000

Hungary*
-
-
750,000

Austria
380,000
145,000
525,000

Greece*
-
-
520,000

Italy
330,000
80,000
410,000

Czechoslovakia
-
-
400,000

Great Britain
326,000
62,000
388,000

USA
295,000
-
295,000

Holland
14,000
236,000
250,000

Belgium
10,000
75,000
85,000

Finland
79,000
-
79,000

Canada
39,000
-
39,000

India
36,000
-
36,000

Australia
29,000
-
29,000

Spain***
12,000
10,000
22,000

Bulgaria
19,000
2,000
21,000

New Zealand
12,000
-
12,000

South Africa
9,000
-
9,000

Norway
5,000
-
5,000

Denmark
4,000
-
4,000

Tala 05-29-2004 11:10 AM

Very nice monument. Those men died for something a great deal more honorable than a President's greed.

Goose 05-29-2004 11:10 AM

wow that's very impressive...and I find it really important, that this cruel and disastrous time will never be forgotten, as a reminder of how easy it is to destroy; and how difficult to keep peace!

KRL 05-29-2004 11:11 AM

Some estimates actually go as high as 60 Million casualties.

Hard to conceive.

X37375787 05-29-2004 11:12 AM

Scary is that it's only been 60 years.

R.I.P. to all the fallen ones. Thou shalt never be forgotten.

Veterans Day 05-29-2004 11:12 AM

Live memorial on the history channel now with over 220,000 in attendance:thumbsup

jimmyf 05-29-2004 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nathan_f
i'm guessing a star for every fallen soldier? :thumbsup
I don't think so, would take up 1/3 of the city :Graucho

X37375787 05-29-2004 11:14 AM

very impressive memorial though, it is truely important that that event will never be forgotten... till the end of man's days.

Samantha_xox2000 05-29-2004 11:17 AM

Oh god , how can u say "nice monument" ??!!!!


People r dead , so many young guys , god!

this monument is scary , but everybody must see him

KRL 05-29-2004 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
Scary is that it's only been 60 years.

R.I.P. to all the fallen ones. Thou shalt never be forgotten.

What is mind blowing is when it started in July of '37 when Japan invaded China that the Japanese actually believed they could conquer the Chinese.

What the heck were they thinking??

KRL 05-29-2004 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samantha_xox2000
Oh god , how can u say "nice monument" ??!!!!


People r dead , so many young guys , god!

this monument is scary , but everybody must see him

What do you mean? Its a beautiful monument to those who lost their lives.

You don't think its a good thing to memorialize these people???

ADL Colin 05-29-2004 11:22 AM

Well in excess of 10,000 deaths a day for years.

Tala 05-29-2004 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samantha_xox2000
Oh god , how can u say "nice monument" ??!!!!


People r dead , so many young guys , god!

this monument is scary , but everybody must see him

It's easy. Say it with me. "Nice monument"

The monument was built to remember the fallen soldiers and sailors who fought for something they believed in. Back in the day when the entire nation was UNITED, doing everything in its power to help the war effort.

I would much rather be sure that those men who died are well-remembered. I believe that's what this monument is for; to help generations of people remember a time when war was hell, when a country stood united instead of divided, when it wasn't a question of war being right or wrong, but of supporting the troops who had to fight it.

Men died and I thank them for giving themselves to make sure that I would be free, and that future generations would be free of Hitler's regieme. The few surviving WWII veterans are living history. Sit down and talk to some of them and hear what war was really like.

THEN talk about scary.

baddog 05-29-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
What is mind blowing is when it started in July of '37 when Japan invaded China that the Japanese actually believed they could conquer the Chinese.

What the heck were they thinking??

They made a damn good try.

KRL 05-29-2004 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
They made a damn good try.
It's difficult to look at that site. The Japanese military went beyond being savages. I saw in some pics they were slicing pregnent Chinese women open and then putting the unborn babies on their bayonets.

:(

Rictor 05-29-2004 11:34 AM

Any WWII veterans post to GFY? They're aren't many of them left these days. My grandpa is still kickin. He gave me some cool WWII stuff when I was a kid I still have. A canteen with strap, a bag for bullets, and some bullet casings. He also gave me a bag full of clay marbles from when he was a kid.

benc 05-29-2004 11:36 AM

Nows the time to honor the ww2 vets, not to make whiny political rants. Extremists muslims are much more of a threat to the usa than Germany ever was.

X37375787 05-29-2004 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by benc
Nows the time to honor the ww2 vets, not to make whiny political rants. Extremists muslims are much more of a threat to the usa than Germany ever was.


Germany was a threat to the whole civilized world, buddy. Sweet ignorance.

merlin77 05-29-2004 11:41 AM

Those were very strong and brave men. I think we all need to take time to remember them all.

baddog 05-29-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
Germany was a threat to the whole civilized world, buddy. Sweet ignorance.
and you think extemist Muslims aren't? Talk to Spain, Greece, etc, etc

talk about sweet ignorance

KRL 05-29-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor
Any WWII veterans post to GFY? They're aren't many of them left these days. My grandpa is still kickin. He gave me some cool WWII stuff when I was a kid I still have. A canteen with strap, a bag for bullets, and some bullet casings. He also gave me a bag full of clay marbles from when he was a kid.
Not many around. They were saying on CNN that about 1,100 WWII vets die each day now because of old age.

13 Million Americans were in WWII. Can you imagine if that happened today. Whoa.

XxXotic 05-29-2004 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nathan_f
i'm guessing a star for every fallen soldier? it's a fine monument. :thumbsup
there's only like 4,000 stars on the wall, little less then 1 per fallen soldier, considering well over 50 million people died during the war

KRL 05-29-2004 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
and you think extemist Muslims aren't? Talk to Spain, Greece, etc, etc

talk about sweet ignorance

You think Muslims are what Germany was?

I think Muslims mostly just want control of their whole neighborhood in the Middle East and getting rid of Israel. Once that is accomplished if it ever is, the Muslims will settle down significantly.

If we stopped supporting Israel tomorrow, the terrorism against the US would stop for the most part.

Biggy2 05-29-2004 11:46 AM

It's a beautiful monument, and will be a very important part of our history. I'm going to visit it soon myself - those vets stopped the atrocities of Hitler and the holocaust.

God bless all of them. :2 cents:

Biggy2 05-29-2004 11:48 AM

Fox News is showing a tour of the Memorial. It looks absolutely amazing.

baddog 05-29-2004 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
You think Muslims are what Germany was?

I think Muslims mostly just want control of their whole neighborhood in the Middle East and getting rid of Israel. Once that is accomplished if it ever is, the Muslims will settle down significantly.

If we stopped supporting Israel tomorrow, the terrorism against the US would stop for the most part.

I think the extremists are as insane as Hitler was, yes.

As they have never lived in peace, I highly doubt erasing Israel from the face of the map (their immediate goal) would make much difference.

FlyingIguana 05-29-2004 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tala
Very nice monument. Those men died for something a great deal more honorable than a President's greed.
they died to hitler's greed

Lauren 05-29-2004 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
What is mind blowing is when it started in July of '37 when Japan invaded China that the Japanese actually believed they could conquer the Chinese.

What the heck were they thinking??

at least they clearly expressed their intentions. unlike those countries who pretended to help but had other agenda. :ak47:

Manowar 05-29-2004 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
40 Million People died in WWII. Top figure is Military, then civilian and the total for each country.


Country

Military

Civilian

Total

Soviet Union
13,600,000
7,700,000
21,300,000

China
1,324,000
10,000,000
11,324,000

Germany
3,250,000
3,810,000
7,060,000

Poland**
850,000
6,000,000
**6,850,000

Japan
1,506,000
300,000
1,806,000

Yugoslavia
300,000
1,400,000
1,700,000

Rumania*
520,000
465,000
985,000

France*
340,000
470,000
810,000

Hungary*
-
-
750,000

Austria
380,000
145,000
525,000

Greece*
-
-
520,000

Italy
330,000
80,000
410,000

Czechoslovakia
-
-
400,000

Great Britain
326,000
62,000
388,000

USA
295,000
-
295,000

Holland
14,000
236,000
250,000

Belgium
10,000
75,000
85,000

Finland
79,000
-
79,000

Canada
39,000
-
39,000

India
36,000
-
36,000

Australia
29,000
-
29,000

Spain***
12,000
10,000
22,000

Bulgaria
19,000
2,000
21,000

New Zealand
12,000
-
12,000

South Africa
9,000
-
9,000

Norway
5,000
-
5,000

Denmark
4,000
-
4,000

holy shit :helpme

baddog 05-29-2004 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

If we stopped supporting Israel tomorrow, the terrorism against the US would stop for the most part.

What about terrorism against the rest of the world?

Germany never declared war on us until Japan did, should we have stayed uninvolved in the ETO and just let Hitler do his thing?

KRL 05-29-2004 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
I think the extremists are as insane as Hitler was, yes.

As they have never lived in peace, I highly doubt erasing Israel from the face of the map (their immediate goal) would make much difference.

All the Muslims I've talked to say the same thing, they want the US to stop supporting Israel and Israel destroyed. That's there agenda. I've not heard a single one I've ever talked to say they want to conquer the United States or Europe.

KRL 05-29-2004 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
What about terrorism against the rest of the world?

Germany never declared war on us until Japan did, should we have stayed uninvolved in the ETO and just let Hitler do his thing?

I'm not saying all terrorism would stop. But 90% would end if the Israeli situation was settled. That's been the driving force of anger for as long as I can remember.

bluedevil 05-29-2004 11:52 AM

hats off to all the vets, esp those that died and gave their bodies to fighting for us...good cause or not, they are all heroes.../

kmanrox 05-29-2004 11:53 AM

I salute all fellow Veterans of the US Armed Forces.

XxXotic 05-29-2004 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL


If we stopped supporting Israel tomorrow, the terrorism against the US would stop for the most part.

that's probably the most ignorant statement ive heard on GFY. Terrorism would not stop here, would not stop against americans or christians for that matter if we pulled out of israel.

http://givemethefinger.com/dc-trip/images/DSC00994.JPG

Lane 05-29-2004 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by benc
Nows the time to honor the ww2 vets, not to make whiny political rants. Extremists muslims are much more of a threat to the usa than Germany ever was.
Are you brainwashed or what?

"Muslims" don't even have the power to cause 1% of the damage Germany has done. And what gives you the idea that muslim countries love eachother so much they will come together to make it happen?

Damage in such scale can only be lead by a single powerful united nation. Hint hint, USA, China etc..

theking 05-29-2004 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
I salute all fellow Veterans of the US Armed Forces.
:drinkup to all vets...and to those currently serving...even you.

Roger 05-29-2004 12:03 PM

It could happen again, don't forget North Korea.

jimmyf 05-29-2004 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
and you think extemist Muslims aren't? Talk to Spain, Greece, etc, etc

talk about sweet ignorance

yep, and if people don't think so they are in for a rude awakening, because it's coming

baddog 05-29-2004 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
All the Muslims I've talked to say the same thing, they want . . . .Israel destroyed.
Not going to happen, they had better get used to it, it has only been around for a few thousand years . . . yes, there was an Israel before the end of WWII.

They should be glad we are allies of Israel, otherwise Israel would say "fuck you" and erase them from the face of the earth.

They must have short memories, Israel has always kicked their asses, and always without our assistance

jimmyf 05-29-2004 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL


If we stopped supporting Israel tomorrow, the terrorism against the US would stop for the most part.

BullShit, you don't know what you are talking ABOUT

baddog 05-29-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I'm not saying all terrorism would stop. But 90% would end if the Israeli situation was settled. That's been the driving force of anger for as long as I can remember.
It will be settled when they realize Israel's right to exist. Pretty simple if you ask me.

baddog 05-29-2004 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lauren
at least they clearly expressed their intentions. unlike those countries who pretended to help but had other agenda. :ak47:
Men are talking, go make some cookies or something.

jimmyf 05-29-2004 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I've not heard a single one I've ever talked to say they want to conquer the United States or Europe.
They fucking hate us, want 2 kill us.

THEY hate our way of life...PERIOD... they think we are evil.

if we gave them every thing they ask for today, they would still want us dead... PERIOD ...

i

KRL 05-29-2004 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
Men are talking, go make some cookies or something.
OMG that's funny as fuck baddog. :thumbsup :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

KRL 05-29-2004 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
They fucking hate us, want 2 kill us.

THEY hate our way of life...PERIOD... they think we are evil.

if we gave them every thing they ask for today, they would still want us dead... PERIOD ...

i

Well the ones I've talked to, say otherwise. These are American Arabs I've met in business so maybe they don't share the same opinions as the Arab Arabs over there.

Tala 05-29-2004 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
:drinkup to all vets...and to those currently serving...even you.
Cheers.


POW MIA: You are not forgotten. :glugglug

jimmyf 05-29-2004 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Well the ones I've talked to, say otherwise. These are American Arabs I've met in business so maybe they don't share the same opinions as the Arab Arabs over there.

wonder what happens when you put those same American Arabs in Saudia ?


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