what's the best sponsor with the worst stats setup
 

i've tried out quite a few sponsors and i was wondering what sponsor you all thought was just awesome but had a horrible stats setup.

All but 2 sponsors I've used have horrible stats.

i love adult action cash's conversions, but their stats area is cumbersome and lacking in promotional material

bob

mediumpimpin's new setup... but i love their free hosted galleries....

on a side thought who gives a fuck about stats.. when you dont know whos shaving

in case you didn't know, they're all shaving

not all are shaving, there are a few that have a LOT more at stake than their web side of operations..there are 2 sponsors that come to mind instantly that have SO MUCH more than web sites going on that they CAN NOT risk something like shaving to make their business crumble...it is the people that ONLY have web programs as their bread and butter that you need to worry about

as far as worst stats, TCG did, but they made it all better :)

PIB :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

i stick with it, they're pretty much all shaving. you know what i hate, when a sponsor only shows me clicks to join page and nothing else. you know why? because you can't track your shit then can you?

if send a surfer to hosted gallery, and my sponsor only shows me clicks to joins, i could send 10,000 clicks to the gallery and they can show me whatever number they want as clicks to the join page.

i want a sponsor that shows me raw and unique clicks to my referrer as soon as any link of mine is clicked and then i also want to clicks to join to.

Most programs are lacking in stats. I don't get why it should be so hard to add a 10+ alphadigital tracking code to each signup, that is rally all I need. And if that's impossible, how about some referer stats for signups???!!!!!

Some go all out for hits tracking, but who needs that when it's alot safer and better to do it yourself.

i agree with that, i wanna see EVERY_FUCKING_CLICK my surfer makes.....that is a sensible request right?
it is all logged anyway, why not let us see it?

yeah you got a sponsor program making millions of dollars a year but you can't see shit.

Not true :Graucho

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

my biggest issue with stats is if you only show me hits to the join page then how the fuck do i know what my real numbers are? it's not possible, because we can't track the pages of the sponsors tour on our own.

they don't have to shave you sales, that's obvious they can shave you clicks to join and fuck you harder because your ratio still looks good.

but i guess bottom line is they're all fucking you so go with who you make the most off or should i say who fucks you the least.

i dont particularly like nastydollars stats system as well, having to open new windows and whatnot.

Why do you need to know the clicks on the paysite? As I see it all you need to know is how much you earn from each unique click you send.

if you don't know how many clicks you have on the tour, then how do you really know how many could click to join? you don't.

say i send 10,000 clicks from a link to a hosted gallery, and the sponsor only shows clicks to join. and it only shows 1000 clicks to join, where did my other 9,000 go? did they leave on the gallery, first page of the tour or what? how do i know that only 1000 clicked to the join page when I can't track it or have no stats?

it's very easy for a sponsor to show every click on every page that is made with your referrer.

That is not information you need if you think about it. The sponsor program should look carefully at those stats, but you only need to know that you 10000 gallery hits got x signups to be able to compare it to what you make with other galleries.

well these 3 stand out from my list
triple x cash
exremepaychecks
soulcash

and pretty much any program that uses these same affilaite scripts i make sure to avoid

wrong wrong and wrong

why why and why

im glad some people still like to belive that.... if there ever is a real way to prove if someone is shaving or not we would be first in line to show everyone who thinks that everyone shaves is wrong..

as for our stats we well be reworking the program some once we get everything inline with the new tours and sites and all that. we appricate everyone being sticking with us through this!

yes every sponsor is willing to prove it but yet none of them ever do. gives us better more detailed stats and that's a start.

That has to be pornkings.

I love their programs but hate their stats and stats area in general, very confusing.

i think we have the best stats.

Anybody using PayCom / Epoch. I've got half a dozen programs I would like to promote, but when they don't have any traffic tracking or click counting AT ALL it's just impossible. A report that tells me I told two memberships is worthless when I can't tell whether that was on 27 hits or 27,000.