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  • galleryseek
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    • Mar 2002
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    #1

    What are your views on Prenuptial Agreements?

    I was having a debate about this the other day with some friends who seem to have a rather fucking thick skull...

    What is the purpose of marriage in the first place? I think everyone can agree, that if you're going to get married you outta strive to make it last as long as you live right? And, if you're gonna get married its reasonable to say you better know that person for at least a couple years, and you better trust them 100% before you make such a strong commitment.

    But then, you turn around and bring in a prenup? What the fuck?!

    You're stating in your marriage vowels that you will love, honor, respect, and stay devoted to that person for the rest of your life... but then you say, "Well JUST in case, JUST because everyone else seems to get divorced, we should sign this piece of paper". Bullshit, if you're gonna get married to someone you really love, statistics shouldn't mean dick.

    I think if you're gonna get married, you go all out and not do it half assed and have an assumption that it *might* not work.

    I say, if you have a doubt in your mind about it concerning the person you're with, you shouldn't get married.

    Of course a lot of you are going to say, "But people's hearts change, life is unpredictable and it's best to be safe." Fuck that, when you force those papers to be signed you're showing your "loved one" that you aren't completely 100% trusting, confident, and devoted to her. In which case you shouldn't be getting married anyhow.
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    • freeadultcontent
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      • Oct 2002
      • 9976
      #2
      Simple fact is marriage is a business deal, started that way still is that way. If you disagree so be it, yet then why get a piece of paper to proove that you love and comit to someone, you should not need it to stay together.

      Having a prenumptial is just a contract provision just like you would have with any other business deal you would make. Yet come to think of it most do not do contracts and such then bitch latter when shit hits the fan, oh well.

      Look at it like insurance, hopefully you will never need to use it but if you have the need you will be god damn happy you have it.

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        • merlin77
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          • May 2004
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          #3
          Originally posted by galleryseek

          What is the purpose of marriage in the first place? I think everyone can agree, that if you're going to get married you outta strive to make it last as long as you live right? And, if you're gonna get married its reasonable to say you better know that person for at least a couple years, and you better trust them 100% before you make such a strong commitment.

          But then, you turn around and bring in a prenup? What the fuck?!

          You're stating in your marriage vowels that you will love, honor, respect, and stay devoted to that person for the rest of your life... but then you say, "Well JUST in case, JUST because everyone else seems to get divorced, we should sign this piece of paper". Bullshit, if you're gonna get married to someone you really love, statistics shouldn't mean dick.

          I think if you're gonna get married, you go all out and not do it half assed and have an assumption that it *might* not work.

          I say, if you have a doubt in your mind about it concerning the person you're with, you shouldn't get married.

          Of course a lot of you are going to say, "But people's hearts change, life is unpredictable and it's best to be safe." Fuck that, when you force those papers to be signed you're showing your "loved one" that you aren't completely 100% trusting, confident, and devoted to her. In which case you shouldn't be getting married anyhow. [/B]
          I agree with you 100%. Too many people take marriage lightly, and I think that is where the pre-nup is comming from. If you think the person is a money grubbing whore, than maybe you should reconsider marrying them rather than pulling out the pre-nup, or if you know and want to marry them anyways, than you get what you deserve.

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            • Evil1
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              • Mar 2002
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              #4
              Originally posted by merlin77
              What has happened to the sanctity of marriage?
              ask the gays

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                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                  • Mar 2003
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                  #5
                  Don't say "I do" without one.

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                    • iFliPcEss
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                      • Dec 2003
                      • 3087
                      #6
                      Originally posted by galleryseek
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                      What is the purpose of marriage in the first place? I think everyone can agree, that if you're going to get married you outta strive to make it last as long as you live right?

                      You're stating in your marriage vowels that you will love, honor, respect, and stay devoted to that person for the rest of your life


                      I think if you're gonna get married, you go all out and not do it half assed and have an assumption that it *might* not work.

                      I say, if you have a doubt in your mind about it concerning the person you're with, you shouldn't get married.

                      when you force those papers to be signed you're showing your "loved one" that you aren't completely 100% trusting, confident, and devoted to her. In which case you shouldn't be getting married anyhow.


                      very well said, i guess they shoudnt get married, living-in will work fine lol

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                        • Drunken Sam
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                          • May 2004
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                          #7
                          get one, if she claims she's not after your money, what's the problem?

                          make it where if she cheats, withhold sex, gains more than 5 pounds every 10 years, or ages beyond 50, she gets nothing.
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                            • FlyingIguana
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                              • Mar 2002
                              • 10870
                              #8
                              because people change. its protection just in case because you never know the true motives of the other party or what they may be capable of it the future.

                              you may think you know someone, but you won't know everything.

                              in theory it would be nice to think that you get married to someone till death do you part, but that doesn't really happen now. just the reality we live in.

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                                • EviLGuY
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                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 12745
                                  #9
                                  If I got married I would have one written up.

                                  You never truly can claim to KNOW anyone.. its just like insurance. You hope you never need it, but if you do, you are fucking glad you have it.

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                                    • DR_PHIL
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                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 4099
                                      #10
                                      these days u gotta get one..though you will prolly get screwed anyway

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                                        • milambur
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                                          • Jan 2003
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                                          #11
                                          I wonder if you will say the same thing after your first divorce....
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                                            • nathan_f
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                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 3983
                                              #12
                                              we were broke college students when we got married, no need for one at the time..

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                                                • freeadultcontent
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by nathan_f
                                                  we were broke college students when we got married, no need for one at the time..
                                                  Hehe bull, what about ownership of the cinder block entertainment center, the wire spool wooden table, and the hot plate?

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                                                    • aaron
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                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                      #14
                                                      better to be safe than sorry

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                                                        • Pleasurepays
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                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 11913
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                          I was having a debate about this the other day with some friends who seem to have a rather fucking thick skull...

                                                          What is the purpose of marriage in the first place? I think everyone can agree, that if you're going to get married you outta strive to make it last as long as you live right? And, if you're gonna get married its reasonable to say you better know that person for at least a couple years, and you better trust them 100% before you make such a strong commitment.

                                                          But then, you turn around and bring in a prenup? What the fuck?!

                                                          You're stating in your marriage vowels that you will love, honor, respect, and stay devoted to that person for the rest of your life... but then you say, "Well JUST in case, JUST because everyone else seems to get divorced, we should sign this piece of paper". Bullshit, if you're gonna get married to someone you really love, statistics shouldn't mean dick.

                                                          I think if you're gonna get married, you go all out and not do it half assed and have an assumption that it *might* not work.

                                                          I say, if you have a doubt in your mind about it concerning the person you're with, you shouldn't get married.

                                                          Of course a lot of you are going to say, "But people's hearts change, life is unpredictable and it's best to be safe." Fuck that, when you force those papers to be signed you're showing your "loved one" that you aren't completely 100% trusting, confident, and devoted to her. In which case you shouldn't be getting married anyhow.

                                                          I agree that it is somewhat contradictory but the reality is that the vows represent a romantic idea of what marriage is and ignore the realities, complications, changing personalities, goals, ambitions, wants, needs, desires etc.

                                                          In a perfect world, people should not get married until they know they are finished playing around and are ready to settle down. In the real world, people are idiots and there are a 1,000,000 reasons why a relationship can fall apart. You don't have to expect it to... but you can be prepared for that possibility. There is a difference.

                                                          Why do you need medical insurance if you are healthy? Cause shit happens.

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                                                            • Doctor Dre
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                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 51692
                                                              #16
                                                              Shit happens man ... People change with years .

                                                              Have you ever been 100 % certain about someone ? I haven't ... dosen't mean I don't love the person I'm with .

                                                              But letting mariage fuck your whole life isn't straight with me .
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                                                                • ItBurnsWhenIpee
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                                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  All right, the thing you're completely missing is that marriage is a legal contract, binding you together financially. That's it. The ceremony, the titles, all of it is nothing - the only real world application that marriage has is binding you together financially.

                                                                  There is no need to do that. If you have kids, child support can still be collected, with or without marriage. There is no need to sit down and give half of your current and future possesions to someone else, REGARDLESS of if you're going to break up. It accomplishes nothing.

                                                                  A pre-nup simply voids the pointless parts of the legal contact you're already signing when you get married.

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                                                                    • stephanie m.
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      If I get married, Ill definately want a prenup!


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                                                                        • ItBurnsWhenIpee
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          By the way, anyone who makes really good money is going to view this from a very different angle...especially if the person they're dating doesn't make much.

                                                                          Someone with half a million dollars in the bank is betting $250K+ on the marriage. And the other person is in a win-win situation. Either a good marriage or $250K in the bank.
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                                                                            • Firehorse
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                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                              • 30767
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Kitty and I have been best friends for almost 10 years and have been married for 2 years. The idea of a prenuptial agreement is a joke to us.

                                                                              We had a beautiful ceremony that we wrote and affirmed our vows and committment and love for each other.

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                                                                                • Jace
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                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 35562
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  the idea of marriage is a joke to 80% of the world anymore, it is a novelty that wears off and divorce happens rather quickly anymore

                                                                                  pre-nup was not even an option when we got married, we both had nothing at all....

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                                                                                    • pure energy
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      It's a very wise thing to have.
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                                                                                        • Sambo
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                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 1187
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by pure energy
                                                                                          It's a very wise thing to have.

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                                                                                            • reynold
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              It has become a necessity with today's marriages.

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                                                                                                • B40
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I'd get it just in case...

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                                                                                                    • newsdude
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                                                                                                      Why not? With the rate of divorce nowadays, that's the best armour you will have!
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                                                                                                        • Veterans Day
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                                                                                                          heh, no prenup here when we got married and the wife has made well over 800k in the last 3 years alone in the mortgage biz. We just dont believe in that bullshit. To each his own I guess
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                                                                                                            • NakedBo
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I think it depends in what kind of situation your are while getting married. If I would have a good running company or something like that. I would make the guy sign a prenup . What if you get devorced? Then he would get 50% of your company, your house ect ect.

                                                                                                              Love is a great thing and all, and getting married is something you do because you want to spend the rest of your live with that person. But you never know what is going to happen in the future..

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                                                                                                                • JDog
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Hell, if I get married, I'm having a prenup! That's just my view, everybody loves to debate with me, but I don't trust women, and I don't want her taking anything of mine that I EARNED, not her.

                                                                                                                  I have a whole view on marriage, that most people won't agree with me. When I get married, I'm having my own bank account, she's having her own and then well have a joint one which we put all the bill money in. Other than that, we have our own money. None of the bullshit, you spend all our money, blah blah blah! I made the money, I can spend it!

                                                                                                                  But my prenup is gonna have a shit load of clauses that would probably scare her off! But I'd rather have all my shit than her after the marriage is over with. Which in to days society, how many marriages end in divorice? A shit load. Why take the risk of losing all you have made for yourself to your partner?

                                                                                                                  That's just my view tho! And I'm fucking scared of marriage. In California, they have the Golden Law, or whatever the fuck it is, where it states that if you've been married for 10 yrs and you file for a divorice, you automatically pay alimony! Which is fucked up IMHO!

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                                                                                                                    • JDog
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by merlin77
                                                                                                                      I agree with you 100%. Too many people take marriage lightly, and I think that is where the pre-nup is comming from. If you think the person is a money grubbing whore, than maybe you should reconsider marrying them rather than pulling out the pre-nup, or if you know and want to marry them anyways, than you get what you deserve.

                                                                                                                      What has happened to the sanctity of marriage?
                                                                                                                      But some women, change after marriage and become a money grabbing whore after! Trust me, I've seen my sister doing it!

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                                                                                                                        • JDog
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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Drunken Sam
                                                                                                                          get one, if she claims she's not after your money, what's the problem?

                                                                                                                          make it where if she cheats, withhold sex, gains more than 5 pounds every 10 years, or ages beyond 50, she gets nothing.
                                                                                                                          Actually I have heard of a prenub where the guy said like he has to get sex x amount of time of the week! Fucking stupid shit! But it was fucking funny!

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                                                                                                                            • JDog
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                                                                                                                              Originally posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee
                                                                                                                              By the way, anyone who makes really good money is going to view this from a very different angle...especially if the person they're dating doesn't make much.

                                                                                                                              Someone with half a million dollars in the bank is betting $250K+ on the marriage. And the other person is in a win-win situation. Either a good marriage or $250K in the bank.
                                                                                                                              Exactly the view I'm looking at it from, and I don't have $500 K in my bank!

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                                                                                                                                • webseth
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                                                                                                                                  To start i dont believe in marriage in the first place. the only REASON i'd ever get married is for the pre-nump!

                                                                                                                                  The problem is just because i dont believe in marriage, doesnt mean i dont believe in monogomy. and in america if you stay with the same person for X many years (depends on state) if you break up its treated like a divorce, the "common law marriage" scenerio. so without knowing it you just gave up half your shit and lose the kids and on and on.

                                                                                                                                  I would get married a day before that X year limit JUST so i can get the pren-nump to protect myself.

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                                                                                                                                    • steffie
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      My Sister and I both have Prenups when we got married, we didn't have much of a choice in that matter. My parents told me if we didn't get one they would not put us into their will LOL

                                                                                                                                      They did the right thing, when I got divorced in 1981 he tried to get half of what I owned and couldn't

                                                                                                                                      Go Prenup

                                                                                                                                      Now, 24 years later I would advice almost everybody to get a prenup if one or the other person has assets they don't want their other partner to touch in case of a divorce

                                                                                                                                      oh, did I mention,, Go Prenup

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                                                                                                                                        • slapass
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Its pretty simple. If both parties have about equal stuff then their is not much need. But if one person is rich and the other is not then you need a prenup.

                                                                                                                                          Prenups can be viewed as romantic. It allows Donald Trump to marry the local barmaid and not have to worry about her motives as she has to do it for love. She won't get shit if she is marrying for money.

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