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amacontent 05-20-2004 12:02 AM

So i had my sites built by this guy and Im getting fucked..
 
OK . I had my sites built by this designer and now since I dont use him anymore... Mind you he has always been paid in full and even advanced rent money when needed... since I dont use him any more he wont tell me how my site works as to remove items, etc. He wants to charge me $100 an hour fee.
Isnt this like buying a car then having to pay extra for the keys. What do I do.

Jarrod 05-20-2004 12:03 AM

I will help you if you want Joe. for free.

SleazyDream 05-20-2004 12:04 AM

shoudl be easy to hire someone else to sniff though the code and have them do it.

PornPimp 05-20-2004 12:04 AM

please post the company or web designer name so we all don't get screwed.

MikeHawk 05-20-2004 12:04 AM

Joe, all you need to do is ask Joe or I and of course we would help you , told you that in Phoenix....

amacontent 05-20-2004 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeHawk
Joe, all you need to do is ask Joe or I and of course we would help you , told you that in Phoenix....
I know, Im giving the kid a chance to grow up and be professional

KaLi 05-20-2004 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by amacontent
I know, Im giving the kid a chance to grow up and be professional
At least you are not being an asshole and naming names without giving the guy a chance. If he doesn't own up or respond, he deserved to be flamed by the boards.

DreamCumTrue 05-20-2004 12:14 AM

Similar stuff is going on with me right now...I never post it though.

amacontent 05-20-2004 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
Similar stuff is going on with me right now...I never post it though.
Well ive tried everything , Im just asking advise what to do now to main tain my sites

woj 05-20-2004 01:29 AM

come on... expose the scammer... :)

kemp 05-20-2004 01:39 AM

Let me get this right, you want this guy to work for free, and if he doesn't that makes him a scammer? This makes no sense to me. Pay him for his time.

woj 05-20-2004 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kemp
Let me get this right, you want this guy to work for free, and if he doesn't that makes him a scammer? This makes no sense to me. Pay him for his time.
It apears he did work but left it unusable... He sold a car to Joe with no keys...

Newton - XXXAmigoz 05-20-2004 01:48 AM

Depends on the site and the nature of the work, simple jobs are always done for free, follow up with a client is mandatory in our book. We are always busy, but always have time to help out a previous client, and many get this for free and they know this.

It's not always about cash, it's doing a good job and making the client happy and we have given away a ton of freebies.

Professionalism is inherent to good business practices and to customer service.

If you want some help, hit me up and will try to help you out.

reynold 05-20-2004 02:47 AM

That sucks! :(

EscortBiz 05-20-2004 02:53 AM

name names, I know the feeling when they cry to you and u help them with money on;ly to get treated like shit

tbabe 05-20-2004 02:54 AM

are you taliking basic info about how the site works? Or does this involve a fair bit of time on his part?

Either way, if you've thrown alot of work his way, he should be more than happy to do it for you, or most people would.

Jer 05-20-2004 04:18 AM

Ask for the PSDs and other source files if any the next time (you might need to pay a bit more for it). But this designer isn't going far in this business.

Jer 05-20-2004 04:20 AM

As EB posted, name names.

$hurik 05-20-2004 04:23 AM

after the project has been approved, you cannot expect any changes for free, unless designer wants to make a favor to you. But anyway 100$ per hour is way to much. Next time look for designer who provides all the source files upon completion. Good luck, i hope you will resolve this issue.

chodadog 05-20-2004 04:32 AM

Jesus man, have those thumb images resized.

http://www.amacontent.com/video.php

500kb thumbs. Ouch. Those thumbs could easily be 10kb and look perfect. Save your bandwidth and also make the page faster for webmasters. And that can only have a positive effect. Win win.

:)

DR_PHIL 05-20-2004 04:33 AM

one of those things about people u learn the hard way

StRoGE 05-20-2004 04:37 AM

So how much longer do we have to wait for a name?

emmanuelle 05-20-2004 05:11 AM

Was it Thong Sniffer?
:1orglaugh

evildick 05-20-2004 05:44 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
Jesus man, have those thumb images resized.

http://www.amacontent.com/video.php

500kb thumbs. Ouch. Those thumbs could easily be 10kb and look perfect. Save your bandwidth and also make the page faster for webmasters. And that can only have a positive effect. Win win.

:)

Holy shit. Hope the guy charging $100 an hour isn't responsible for the 500kb thumbs.

Ironhorse 05-20-2004 06:01 AM

What kind of maintenance work do you need done, is this information that only the designer can provide?

WebTitan 05-20-2004 06:04 AM

wow, i guess it would depend on what you are asking for, but that price seems WAY rediculous

plyndrty 05-20-2004 06:06 AM

Knowing how the site works when you pay someone to build it for you sould be included in the fee paid in the start.:2 cents:

Basic_man 05-20-2004 06:06 AM

He's a fuckin' ripper! Don't pay him at all ! :Graucho :321GFY

WebTitan 05-20-2004 06:35 AM

i am assuming that you got the original PSD's or whatever was used. if so, i am sure you can get someone to help you out, for free, or for a low cost.

AdultDesigners 05-20-2004 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by amacontent
Well ive tried everything , Im just asking advise what to do now to main tain my sites

Maybe you should teach yourself ?
What can be so hard in maintaining a site ? Especially if you have a control panel (as I understood you have).

AdultDesigners 05-20-2004 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
Jesus man, have those thumb images resized.

http://www.amacontent.com/video.php

500kb thumbs. Ouch. Those thumbs could easily be 10kb and look perfect. Save your bandwidth and also make the page faster for webmasters. And that can only have a positive effect. Win win.

:)


Those are not thumbs.
Those are big images resized into html :))
I have seen a lot of this situation on content brokers that doesn't use a decent brokering script.
They just put a width in the html and .. that's it :Graucho

NickPapageorgio 05-20-2004 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
Holy shit. Hope the guy charging $100 an hour isn't responsible for the 500kb thumbs.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

amacontent 05-20-2004 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kemp
Let me get this right, you want this guy to work for free, and if he doesn't that makes him a scammer? This makes no sense to me. Pay him for his time.
What the fuck you mean work for free.. I paid him over $10,000 in work. He built my sites and I need info on where to rermove files. I paid for the fucking shit

amacontent 05-20-2004 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironhorse
What kind of maintenance work do you need done, is this information that only the designer can provide?
Yah there is a place where my web guy cant find the files to remove and all i need is the designer to tell him where it is. Its the same on all my sites

Ironhorse 05-20-2004 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by amacontent
Yah there is a place where my web guy cant find the files to remove and all i need is the designer to tell him where it is. Its the same on all my sites
Well that's pretty fucking lame, hope you are able to get the information you need :(

NoCarrier 05-20-2004 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by evildick
Holy shit. Hope the guy charging $100 an hour isn't responsible for the 500kb thumbs.
OMG! 500k thumbs ! That's fucking hilarious! :1orglaugh

magnatique 05-20-2004 09:14 AM

are you talking about a mysql entry to add stuff, or an actual file structure ?


if you're talking about a file structure, that's easy to find.. actually, it all is... even if it's mysql...


but if it's a file structure and you are trying to find where the folders are, login through ssh or telnet (depending on the host) and do locate filename (filename beeing the name of one file you know is in that dir... say go over the net to that pic or video and copy the filename)

that's for freebsd that I use... I ain't very litterate with webservers, but it works for me over here... maybe someone else can help with other webservers if you don't have freebsd

Fletch XXX 05-20-2004 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by amacontent

Isnt this like buying a car then having to pay extra for the keys. What do I do.

No, if you want maintenance done on your car it costs.

dont try and down grade a designers service.

Fletch XXX 05-20-2004 09:17 AM

wait you idiots in here think some guy can get a site designed, then fucking 6 months come back and want extra work for free?

fucking gimme a break.


:1orglaugh

magnatique 05-20-2004 09:17 AM

oh and for the thumbs, buy thumbsplus ;)

cayne 05-20-2004 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
shoudl be easy to hire someone else to sniff though the code and have them do it.
Yap.
But anyway that's not a very polite behavior.

magnatique 05-20-2004 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
wait you idiots in here think some guy can get a site designed, then fucking 6 months come back and want extra work for free?

fucking gimme a break.


:1orglaugh


I might be wrong.... but I am under the impression he calls designer work what a "programmer" did for him...

at least, that is what I am thinking...

I never expect a designer to redo work once all is paid and agreed to be done... that'd be using the good will of someone.

BUT, there's something different with programming. if you hire a programmer to build your entire site, and then maintain it, he should let you know how everything works by the time he leaves...

That's why everyone should always know how everything works WHILE someone does it for them... cuz then this shit don't happen.

Doc911 05-20-2004 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by amacontent
OK . I had my sites built by this designer and now since I dont use him anymore... Mind you he has always been paid in full and even advanced rent money when needed... since I dont use him any more he wont tell me how my site works as to remove items, etc. He wants to charge me $100 an hour fee.
Isnt this like buying a car then having to pay extra for the keys. What do I do.

sounds more like he sold you a car and drove you around for a little while.

and now that he's gone you want him to teach you how to drive.

hire another driver.

Fletch XXX 05-20-2004 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by magnatique
I might be wrong.... but I am under the impression he calls designer work what a "programmer" did for him...

at least, that is what I am thinking...

I never expect a designer to redo work once all is paid and agreed to be done... that'd be using the good will of someone.

BUT, there's something different with programming. if you hire a programmer to build your entire site, and then maintain it, he should let you know how everything works by the time he leaves...

That's why everyone should always know how everything works WHILE someone does it for them... cuz then this shit don't happen.

ah true, but same could be applied.

you pay someone to do a script.

they provide working script.

you come back 6 months later wanting changes, why cant he ask for his hourly rate?

I dont know the rates so 100 could be much, I dont know. but what one values their self or time should be of no issue to anyone who has been privded with the service and product then comes back later for changes.

theres still an issue of what someones time and talent is worth, whether its designs or code.

just my opinion though.

jimmyf 05-20-2004 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by amacontent
OK . I had my sites built by this designer and now since I dont use him anymore... Mind you he has always been paid in full and even advanced rent money when needed... since I dont use him any more he wont tell me how my site works as to remove items, etc. He wants to charge me $100 an hour fee.
Isnt this like buying a car then having to pay extra for the keys. What do I do.

do you want him 2 do the work for *FREE* ?

I don't work for *FREE* and I'm sure you do not either.

Tell the person what you want done and ask how much they will charge.

jimmyf 05-20-2004 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by woj
come on... expose the scammer... :)
are you sure he is a scammer? shut your pie hole until you know for sure.

jimmyf 05-20-2004 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kemp
Let me get this right, you want this guy to work for free, and if he doesn't that makes him a scammer? This makes no sense to me. Pay him for his time.
you posted before i did

jimmyf 05-20-2004 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
wait you idiots in here think some guy can get a site designed, then fucking 6 months come back and want extra work for free?

fucking gimme a break.


:1orglaugh

why not ?:Graucho

stevecore 05-20-2004 09:57 AM

once a final design is okayed, expect to get charged for any other work that needs to be done. if this guy was working for you in-house, would you not pay him on the day he'd have to update sites??

magnatique 05-20-2004 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
ah true, but same could be applied.

you pay someone to do a script.

they provide working script.

you come back 6 months later wanting changes, why cant he ask for his hourly rate?

I dont know the rates so 100 could be much, I dont know. but what one values their self or time should be of no issue to anyone who has been privded with the service and product then comes back later for changes.

theres still an issue of what someones time and talent is worth, whether its designs or code.

just my opinion though.


and it's a valid opinion... I agree with you 110% :)


But unless I heard wrong, all he is asking is the path of something... lol...

"hey, where did you upload my design again?"

"I know, but I'll tell you for 100$ an hour"


this is how I see it... if it's different and requires work from the other individual, then payment is to be given...


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