bush really did have berg killed- proof
 

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/pu...cle_7655.shtml

according to this article anyway..

From AxisofLogic.com

Iraq
Fishy Circumstances and Flawed Timelines Surround American's Beheading
By Alex Jones
May 20, 2004, 14:08




Editorial Note: For decades a favorite method of marginalizing those who raise questions about official government reports has been to simply discredit the critic as a "conspiracy theorist". We are not conspiracy theorists. Regarding the killing of Nick Berg, we have questions. We have no conspiracies - only questions. - Les Blough, Editor



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Fishy Circumstances and Flawed Timelines Surround American's Beheading

05-12-04

UPDATE 12:45PM Central: This just in -- U.S. spokesman says decapitated American was never held by U.S. forces

With several news outlets reporting that Berg's family is angry from the US government over their son's violent death and revelations that "Berg was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24. He was turned over to U.S. officials and detained for 13 days" (in other words, he was detained by the US military just prior to his death) -- (AP 5/11/04) we have to question what really happened and who was really behind Berg's horrific murder.

We have received several emails from listeners questioning what really happened including this one:

"me and a friend were discussing recent news events and trying to piece together the information presented to us, thought you might want to look into this further, they said in the news that nicholas berg was killed 2 weeks ago (i think), however in the video the culprits who killed him said they were "avenging iraqi prisoner abuse" but those photos weren't released until last week, so my question is how is that even a possible motive if he was killed prior to the abuse photos being released?? maybe i am misinformed but thought id ask the question to someone who would look into it."

And this one:

"Hey Alex, I know people like me who have learned not to trust our government tend to see a conspiracy under every rock. With that said... The picture the media is now showing of the guy the terrorist beheaded as revenge for what went on in the Iraqi prisons looks odd to me. If you look at the men dressed in black, they all seem well fed. Actually most look fat. That bothers me, because these guys are fighting a war and eating on the run. They are constantly on the move and should be either very fit and trim or scrawny and malnourished because of the same reasons. One thing they should not be is fat like couch potatoes. If you look at all of the photos of the prisoners who were naked who supposedly were just plucked of the street, most of them are thin. Just an observation Alex."

And this one:

"1) extremely convenient 'wag the dog' timing at the height of furor regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis

"2) CNN poll question: 'Is the Berg killing a reason for withholding any remaining Iraq prisoner abuse pictures?' Bush has been reported to be struggling with question of whether Pentagon should release additional torture photos. Given that the alleged decapitation of Berg was allegedly prompted by the first wave of torture photos, Bush could now cite 'national security' issues for witholding additional materials.

"3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody.

"4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue (compare with pictures at Guantanamo).

"5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to change).

"6) Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost motionless Berg on floor as head cut off.

"7) Audio clearly dubbed in.

"8) 'Arab' reader flips through pages of 'statement' and keeps ending up on the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what page he's on?

"9) 'Arabs' have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin.

"10) 'Arabs' have Western-style body posture and mannerisms.

"11) When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's clothes, and even the hand of the 'Arab' who decapitated Berg had no visible blood on it.

"12) Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip.

"13) Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open.

"14) Alleged 'scream' from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly dubbed in.

"15) Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to 'verify his identity'. Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by family."

I believe that Berg (or this lookalike character) was first killed (perhaps by lethal injection, poisoning, etc.), then decapitated after dead (explains lack of blood spraying everywhere). Berg was killed by Al-Quaeda (known to be a CIA - Mossad joint venture). Berg video released at height of furor over U.S. torture of Iraqis and just before Bush was to decide whether to release additional torture videos. Now torture videos will be witheld from public for reasons of national security. Now "patriots" everywhere will laud the virtues of U.S. torture of "enemies". Sensitivity level of public gets heightened in terms of what's acceptable treatment of prisoners. Juxtaposed with decapitation, piling naked men into pyramid is nothing. Such treatment will be considered more and more acceptable even in domestic situations. George W. Bush sleeps well tonight while Berg family lives in
torture. Serves Berg's father right for opposing Bush and the war of
aggression against Iraq.

Jeff Rense has compiled some important information on Berg's detainment and questioning what really happened in his article, "Why Did The US Take Custody Of Nick Berg?"

tons of proof there

That video was really to low of quality to tell much... But most of that article you posted looks like complete conspiracy bullshit.

yeah.. but still interesting.

Really is interesting. I don't want to think about it anymore. :(

Huh again shit about Bush

When I watched that video I got the vibe something wasn't right with it either. I've done a lot of video production and editing and the sound wasn't even in sync with the picture at the end.

There should have been blood all over when you slice the juggular vein and his head would be dripping also.

He also had way too much time of screaming. When you slice someones neck, the last thing they are able to do is scream like that. They start drowning in their own blood.

Something isn't right here with this whole thing.

Fucked up.:helpme

i bet bush is involved in all this somehow, its much more sinister than i thought

It still amazes me how some of you people actually believe in this bs.

IN MY OPINION, i don't think Bush got something to do with those mothafuckinmoron who beheaded the poor guy, but the articles/proofs enlighten me in some ways uhuh

I really don't like not knowing the truth! :mad: :mad: :mad:

:waaaaahh

OMG you people are blinded by your own agenda. And you don't even know you are blinded by your own agenda. :1orglaugh

BUSH DID NOT HURT THAT BOY!!!!!! Go fucking play in the street or something. :1orglaugh



:ak47:

:thumbsup

EXACTLY

fuck, will some people just move on and think JUST MAYBE terrorists that cut peoples fukin heads off did this? omg, he said his name and family!!! no shit, so did hamil, and he isnt saying he was really held my coalition troops. omg, a womans voice 'clearly spliced in'. clearly? ok colombo, thanks for the 'proof'. ever think that they did this in front of OTHER HOSTAGES?

head-in-ass syndrome seems to be a growing epidemic

His parents said today "our son died for the sins of Bush and Rumsfeld". No question there is more to this story than the official white house story. These guys get worse and worse every day.

unfortunately nothing amazes me here any more

Impossible :ak47:

Those voices in your head are still working over time.

GFYs turning into the Political Enquirer :helpme

Im amazed that educated people wont even consider these things. No one is saying that it's true, just a possibility . . its extremely ignorant for anyone to be sure about any of the events that are released and to discredit stories before they are proven or disproven.

Waiting for tin foil hat picture . . .

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/t...infoil-hat.jpg


Have no fear! Nerdy-conspiracy-theorists have arrived in this thread!

I'm keeping an open mind about the whole thing. I thought the terrorists looked awfully a lot like college students making their first home video project from their posture and mannerisms. And those are good points to question.

Why not question?

Like I've allready said.. this is scary shit .. IF it's true.

its not a point that we can come to any conclusion other than the following

was bush's presidency in doubt over the iraq war and the american people needed some reason to justify it all over again before election?

Some questioning is best done in the nude :winkwink: with a serious pair of eyeglasses and the big stick :Graucho

Talk about being blinded by an agenda. :sleep


(When people say "Bush" I think they often mean "This Administration")

complete bullshit and the people that believe it are idiots period...

Watch it again. They start from the right side of his neck. not his throat. :2 cents:

yeah really, this is a little ridiculous I mean how hard is it to believe that they wanted to retaliate for the abuse give me a break!

PetMyKitty got's 2 be that massive cock guy he's **about** the only one stupid enough to believe bullshit like this.

I'm amazed just about every time I visit GFY the last 2 months.