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strobi 05-10-2004 01:19 PM

epiccash stops paying 0.75$/mail
 
EpicMAIL Payout Change

Due to strict Hotmail, Yahoo, and MSN restrictions we will no longer be able to pay $0.75 per email. The new payout for our EpicMAIL program has now been reduced to $0.50 per qualified email signup.

We will continue to give credits for Hotmail, Yahoo, and MSN even though we can not mail those domain.


- Epic Cash


:(

maybe time to signup for AAC? They pay up to 5$/mail. signup here

dropped9 05-10-2004 01:19 PM

deja vu

KMR Stitch 05-10-2004 01:22 PM

That sucks

Strife 05-10-2004 01:23 PM

It wasn't long ago that they announced that they would be paying $1 per email...that never happened. Now their only paying $0.50? Fuck that shit...

:(

BVF 05-10-2004 01:24 PM

if you can't email yahoo and hotmail AND MSN, who you gonna spam? AOL? I think not.

strobi 05-10-2004 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strife
It wasn't long ago that they announced that they would be paying $1 per email...that never happened. Now their only paying $0.50? Fuck that shit...

:(

Indeed was hoping for that 1$/mail too... they convert awesome when you use your own advertisement and remote box.

candyflip 05-10-2004 01:25 PM

They must have a pretty shit mailing setup. I know plenty of people who have no problem getting email into Hotmail, Yahoo or MSN.

KMR Stitch 05-10-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
They must have a pretty shit mailing setup. I know plenty of people who have no problem getting email into Hotmail, Yahoo or MSN.
Costs money to whitelist.

SykkBoy 05-10-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
Costs money to whitelist.
yup, a lot of money

strobi 05-10-2004 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
They must have a pretty shit mailing setup. I know plenty of people who have no problem getting email into Hotmail, Yahoo or MSN.
jep... but getting on those whitelists is HARD. Because of the adult nature I presume...

detoxed 05-10-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
Costs money to whitelist.
takes a phonecall usually

strobi 05-10-2004 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
takes a phonecall usually
that's it? Shoodend be to hard then for epiccash to mail hotmail...

DreamCumTrue 05-10-2004 01:34 PM

i wish i could tell everyone the truth about epic cash...oh well

strobi 05-10-2004 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
i wish i could tell everyone the truth about epic cash...oh well
the truth?

RicardoB 05-10-2004 02:35 PM

Did Acacia tak eto big a cut?

:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

nathan_f 05-10-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
i wish i could tell everyone the truth about epic cash...oh well
you just trolling? if you couldnt say anything, then you've already said too much.

Tuga 05-10-2004 02:41 PM

Shit, I loved the remote boxes :(

JamesK 05-10-2004 02:43 PM

:)

bigdog 05-11-2004 03:25 AM

hey where are the epiccash board spammers at

DatingGold 05-11-2004 03:27 AM

microsoft is gonna charge a pretty peeny to be on the whitelist soon

Mr. Marks 05-11-2004 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
if you can't email yahoo and hotmail AND MSN, who you gonna spam? AOL? I think not.
Yep.

NOT a good idea to mail AOL cuz those mofos SUE!

EviLGuY 05-11-2004 04:07 AM

Sounds like a warning sign to me. I stopped using their webmaster programs about a month or so ago anyways.

goBigtime 05-11-2004 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
Costs money to whitelist.

Hmmm I would think you could attack them legally on that one.

Their clients opt'd to receive your newsletters.

That's nuts if they charge to whitelist responsible mailers - adult or not.

strobi 05-11-2004 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by papichulo
Yep.

NOT a good idea to mail AOL cuz those mofos SUE!

why shood they?

VideoVoyeur 05-11-2004 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
i wish i could tell everyone the truth about epic cash...oh well

This is what he ment.







In reality, they dopnt pay you anything for your email addresses.


They have setup affiliate accounts with places like Hogs Cash, Gamma Cash, CE and about a half dozen other email address places.


They send email lists daily to them to be checked at a set time. If they dont have the email address already in the database they get a check from whichever email site it is.


IE: they get 5,000 addresses, they send all 5k to all the email places they are signed up for,


Gamma Cash doesnt have 2,000 of them, the other 3k they do, they are dumped, and Epic is paid for the 2k.


CE has 4k of the emails, they are dumped, they pay for the 1k

and so on and so forth.




That is why they had to cut prices, they ended up losing more money then you can realize, and it happens all the time with email places.

If you have ever Tried Hawgs cash emailer, I have. Sign up for one as a surfer, and within 2 days you will be getting no less then 30 emails from DIFFERENT emailers including Gamma CE and other big names.


It's an old business model, it will die off one day.

goBigtime 05-11-2004 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
Hmmm I would think you could attack them legally on that one.

Their clients opt'd to receive your newsletters.

That's nuts if they charge to whitelist responsible mailers - adult or not.



http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/05/05...id=126&tid=187


I guess they are actually doing it. Lol.. that's crazy.

I didn't investigate those links much... but I wonder if you have to bring your own CAN-SPAM compliant list, or if MSN/Hotmail allows you to mail as many of their people as you can afford and be CAN-SPAM compliant by going in under their wing..... ie "If you use Hotmail, you agree to be spammed by us and our affiliates, if you don't like it.. then upgrade to a paid Hotmail account"..... something like that?

VideoVoyeur 05-11-2004 04:25 AM

MSN wants a $20,000 bond to be on the list.

VideoVoyeur 05-11-2004 04:28 AM

Quit ICQing me to ask me how it works, no I wont sell you the script. :321GFY

FabianC 05-11-2004 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
This is what he ment.


If you have ever Tried Hawgs cash emailer, I have. Sign up for one as a surfer, and within 2 days you will be getting no less then 30 emails from DIFFERENT emailers including Gamma CE and other big names.


It's an old business model, it will die off one day.

Bullshit, learn your facts before you speak. I know for a FACT CE doesn't do this

VideoVoyeur 05-11-2004 04:31 AM

And after 6 years of doing this, I know they do.
Sign up at any hawgs cash emailer and use a hotmail or yahoo account, I guarantee you within 2 days you will get emails.


Think im full of crap eh? try it once.

FabianC 05-11-2004 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
And after 6 years of doing this, I know they do.
Sign up at any hawgs cash emailer and use a hotmail or yahoo account, I guarantee you within 2 days you will get emails.


Think im full of crap eh? try it once.

I'm talking about receiving CE emails without signing up directly using any of CE's optin methods

flashfire 05-11-2004 04:52 AM

I was waiting for the $1 as announced...50 cents just doesnt cut it

bigdog 05-11-2004 05:02 AM

i wonder if any other email programs will be lowering payouts


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