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KMR Stitch 05-05-2004 02:12 PM

Need advice on a good Harddrive
 
80-120 GB 7200 RPM


Whats 8mb buffer and 2mb buffer?

What brand should I buy?

KMR Stitch 05-05-2004 02:21 PM

bump

nathan_f 05-05-2004 02:22 PM

werent you leaving for a couple days?

KMR Stitch 05-05-2004 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by nathan_f
werent you leaving for a couple days?
Guess whos back back again

Stitch is back

smack 05-05-2004 02:25 PM

i've always beena big fan of Maxtor or western digital.

Roald 05-05-2004 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by smack
i've always beena big fan of Maxtor or western digital.
I have a WD 200 gigs extern for half a year now but I don't seem to get it working :( I feel stupid now

smack 05-05-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
I have a WD 200 gigs extern for half a year now but I don't seem to get it working :( I feel stupid now
that's really odd. unfortunately i have no expierience with external drives. it's not just a driver issue is it?

KMR Stitch 05-05-2004 02:30 PM

SO whats 2mb buffer and 8mb buffer?

DrGuile 05-05-2004 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuaShe
I have a WD 200 gigs extern for half a year now but I don't seem to get it working :( I feel stupid now
Ill give you 50$ for it.



8megs of cache simply means it will be faster. But these days WD puts 8 megs on its "special" edition drive and they also carry 3 years of warranty instead of 1

The speed difference is not huge, but the warranty is nice.

Roald 05-05-2004 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by smack
that's really odd. unfortunately i have no expierience with external drives. it's not just a driver issue is it?
nope not as far as I know, it shows up in explorer as J drive but I can't format it or do anything with it. Going to try it on the laptop tomorow to see if I can get it working at that one

KMR Stitch 05-05-2004 08:39 PM

bump

KRosh 05-05-2004 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuaShe
I have a WD 200 gigs extern for half a year now but I don't seem to get it working :( I feel stupid now
More than Likely your mother board can't handle the size of the drive. You need to partition the drive and have 2 partitions.
How old is the computer ?? Newer comps support larger drives not older ones.

KMR Stitch 05-05-2004 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRosh
More than Likely your mother board can't handle the size of the drive. You need to partition the drive and have 2 partitions.
How old is the computer ?? Newer comps support larger drives not older ones.

Going to add it on my

ASUS A7VNX-X Series With Athlon XP 2500+

Kard63 05-05-2004 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
80-120 GB 7200 RPM


Whats 8mb buffer and 2mb buffer?

What brand should I buy?

I have had aver 50 Western Digital drives. Currently 12 250GB ones :)

Get WD, only IBM is higher quality and they cost considerably more. Maxtor is better than it used to be, but it used to be complete garbage so .... If you will use this as a primary drive spring for the 8mb cache. If its secondary storage it doesn't matter.

KRosh 05-05-2004 09:22 PM

Disk caching works under the same principle as memory caching, but instead of using high-speed SRAM, a disk cache uses conventional main memory. The most recently accessed data from the disk (as well as adjacent sectors) is stored in a memory buffer. When a program needs to access data from the disk, it first checks the disk cache to see if the data is there. Disk caching can dramatically improve the performance of applications, because accessing a byte of data in RAM can be thousands of times faster than accessing a byte on a hard disk.


8 Mb = more memory buffer

venus 05-05-2004 09:23 PM

IDE drives are slow, get a Cheetah, made by seagate, its a scsi drive, 10,000 RPM .

KRosh 05-05-2004 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
Going to add it on my

ASUS A7VNX-X Series With Athlon XP 2500+

that answer was for qua-she
:thumbsup

I recommend 80Gb HD's with 8Mb cache-buffer ( Western Digital)

120 Gb is good too ..but i like the stability of 80 gig drives


Check here for best prices www.newegg.com

good luck

:thumbsup

Ash@phpFX 05-05-2004 09:30 PM

in australia 200gig is cheaper per gig than 120 now, im assuming its the same in the US, i would go with a WD, they have always been good for me

KRosh 05-05-2004 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
80-120 GB 7200 RPM


Whats 8mb buffer and 2mb buffer?

What brand should I buy?




Quote:

Disk caching works under the same principle as memory caching, but instead of using high-speed SRAM, a disk cache uses conventional main memory. The most recently accessed data from the disk (as well as adjacent sectors) is stored in a memory buffer. When a program needs to access data from the disk, it first checks the disk cache to see if the data is there. Disk caching can dramatically improve the performance of applications, because accessing a byte of data in RAM can be thousands of times faster than accessing a byte on a hard disk.

grannytgp 05-05-2004 10:06 PM

Check your Sunday newspaper inserts -- pretty much on a weekly basis, Office Max, Best Buy, or Circuit City has rebate deals on the Western Digital 1200JB drives -- 120gb/8mb cache/7200rpm.

Office Max usually has the best rebates actually, bringing the price of the 1200jb drive down to around $59 after rebate. A very good drive for the price, and you won't find them for that price with any of the online retailers since mostly all of them sell the OEM and not the Retail packaging drives.

I own about 10 of these drives for my PC's, Xbox, UltimateTV systems, etc... They're silent compared to some of the Seagate drives I've used, and the speeds are superior as well.

Just my :2 cents: Good luck with your purchase!

riosluts 05-05-2004 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
80-120 GB 7200 RPM


Whats 8mb buffer and 2mb buffer?

What brand should I buy?

go with the 8mb buffer, there isnt a big price difference and its worth it. Also go with Matrox brand, no other HD compares

chupachups 05-05-2004 10:08 PM

I have had my best experiences with IBM/Hitachi and worst with Matrox/Samsung.

KMR Stitch 05-05-2004 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grannytgp
Check your Sunday newspaper inserts -- pretty much on a weekly basis, Office Max, Best Buy, or Circuit City has rebate deals on the Western Digital 1200JB drives -- 120gb/8mb cache/7200rpm.

Office Max usually has the best rebates actually, bringing the price of the 1200jb drive down to around $59 after rebate. A very good drive for the price, and you won't find them for that price with any of the online retailers since mostly all of them sell the OEM and not the Retail packaging drives.

I own about 10 of these drives for my PC's, Xbox, UltimateTV systems, etc... They're silent compared to some of the Seagate drives I've used, and the speeds are superior as well.

Just my :2 cents: Good luck with your purchase!

I saw that the other week Bestbuy for 70.00 off walk out door price 129.99... I am not so sure how well I trust rebates..I have hear some bad tales in my time.

Illicit 05-05-2004 10:08 PM

maxtor has been working good for me...

ZoiNk 05-05-2004 10:18 PM

go with 8meg over 2meg. 8 megs come with 3 year warrenty, 2 meg come with 1 year warrenty. Do you really want to buy something that they had to lower to a 1 year warrenty?

All hard drives USED to have a 3 year up untill about a year ago, and they realized that too many people were returning them within the 3 years b/c they would break. The 8 meg are the higher end drives, 2 meg are the disposable drives. Typically only a $10-30 difference between the two types at most computer stores. I like Western Digital b/c they are nice and quiet.
ZoiNk

grannytgp 05-05-2004 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
I saw that the other week Bestbuy for 70.00 off walk out door price 129.99... I am not so sure how well I trust rebates..I have hear some bad tales in my time.
Well the rebates are definitely on the up and up... you just have to make sure you dot all your I's and cross all your T's on the forms.

With the Circuit City rebates, there are usually two rebates - a store rebate, and then a manufacturer's rebate. Just have to read carefully what each rebate form needs -- like the manufacturer probably wants the actual UPC barcode from the retail packaging, while the store rebates are usually content with a photocopy of the UPC barcode.

Just make sure to read the forms carefully and get the proper stuff in. I would probably venture a guess that's how they're able to even offer these fat rebates --- when they crunch the numbers, they probably figure the majority of customers either don't send the rebate in at all.... or send in the wrong stuff, which would nullify the rebate.

It is kind of mind boggling how a $29 spindle of Imation CD-R's cost the consumer $0.00 after rebate. I mean after all, someone's picking up the tab... but who? Has to be a numbers game betting on most not sending in the rebate at all.

Sorry to get off topic there :)

Dirty D 05-05-2004 10:26 PM

Maxtor 250GB 7200rpm 8MB buffer

$159 on sale at CompUSA

No rebate to worry about!


Excellent Drive, We have several to backup our video productions.

Los 05-05-2004 10:54 PM

get the 8mb buffer western digital. but remember on the big drives you might have issues with booting up i have had so many issue with putting the os on the big drives it always seems to plat the disapeering act.

KRosh 05-06-2004 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
I saw that the other week Bestbuy for 70.00 off walk out door price 129.99... I am not so sure how well I trust rebates..I have hear some bad tales in my time.
You guys don't read ...LOL


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Western Digital Special Edition 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model WD1200JB, OEM Drive Only

Model# WD1200JB
Item # N82E16822144118

Specifications:
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: High-performance with 8MB Buffer
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: OEM Drive Only

Price: $91.75

Best prices ...hands down.


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