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just a punk 05-02-2004 01:58 PM

"Make no mistake; if there was no free porn, they'd all have to pay for it."
 
As my friend Lensman said, "Make no mistake; if there was no free porn, they'd all have to pay for it." He is of course correct. So the question then becomes "Do you need to offer highly explicit, 'free samples' as a means of trying to sell more porn?" From the looks of most "free sites," the answer is "yes" ? but "most" is not "all."

Just an interesting article: http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?cat=43&id=3113

Nothing to add, because I totally share such a point of veiw...

KaLi 05-02-2004 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cyberxxx
As my friend Lensman said, "Make no mistake; if there was no free porn, they'd all have to pay for it." He is of course correct. So the question then becomes "Do you need to offer highly explicit, 'free samples' as a means of trying to sell more porn?" From the looks of most "free sites," the answer is "yes" ? but "most" is not "all."

Just an interesting article: http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?cat=43&id=3113

Nothing to add, because I totally share such a point of veiw...

Well, its true. But there is so much free porn out there, it seems as if a lot of surfers now expect high quality free porn before they join.

just a punk 05-02-2004 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by KaLi
Well, its true. But there is so much free porn out there, it seems as if a lot of surfers now expect high quality free porn before they join.
I like this part: be "Playboy" on the outside, and "Hustler" on the inside... I bet you'll see more sales!

Basic_man 05-02-2004 02:09 PM

Thanks for sharing the link

jojojo 05-02-2004 02:11 PM

yawn this arguement is sooo old :glugglug

Illicit 05-02-2004 02:13 PM

Its going to be hard to compete with sites that are giving the milk away... If you stay softcore, quality is a must.

just a punk 05-02-2004 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by jojojo
yawn this arguement is sooo old :glugglug
So old you say? Look here: http://submit.book-mark.net/index.html

Seems the market is trying to climb out for that ass where it has been drived by TGP's.

BradM 05-02-2004 02:27 PM

Free porn screws up, yet at the same time FUELS the industry. :)

just a punk 05-02-2004 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Free porn screws up, yet at the same time FUELS the industry. :)
Go here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=278203 :Graucho

PMdave 05-02-2004 03:14 PM

I believe that free porn has had a big hand in the booming of the internet. Without free porn the we wouldn't be as big as it is now. :2 cents:

Jeff aka NIGHTfall 05-02-2004 03:35 PM

ummm its not true.... even if there wasnt free porn not everyone would pay for it...


there will just be more crack/password sites... and p2p will run the porn trader world as it does now... you cannot avoid anything from leaking no matter what.. its the internet, internet is the free world.

blazin 05-02-2004 03:54 PM

Oh no, not againnnn

Raf1 05-02-2004 04:07 PM

All the stuff in that article is pretty obvious, but it still makes a good read

69pornlinks 05-02-2004 04:40 PM

when gallery submitting i usually have 35 hi-res pics and 1 text link that says More FREE Porn that leads to my hub where all the galleries have at least 50 hi res pics and no adverts, i find this distreacts the surfer from the pics.....:2 cents:

escorpio 05-02-2004 04:40 PM

Who hasn't heard this..."How do you sell porn? It's FREE!?!?!"

KRL 05-02-2004 05:05 PM

Because of the nature of the Net you simply can't control the distribution of free porn.

A lot of webmasters started out just by having sites to offer other surfers their collections of scanned porn pics from magazines. Then they realized there was a way to make money at it by selling traffic for pennies to ppc companies in the early days.

You can still make money with the free stuff around and even by distributing lots of free stuff, just have to figure out the angles and there are some clever angles that not many people have figured out yet.

Xplicit 05-02-2004 05:19 PM

Its true, back when TGPs were rare and it was just picposts, sales were great. Now that theres so much free porn its a hell of a lot harder :2 cents:

zzgundamnzz 05-02-2004 05:22 PM

Its harder to convert because the surfer is afraid to join cause of the $39.99 recurring hahahahahaha cutter sites out there. They want to see samples so they know that they are getting their moneys worth.

SykkBoy 05-02-2004 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Its harder to convert because the surfer is afraid to join cause of the $39.99 recurring hahahahahaha cutter sites out there. They want to see samples so they know that they are getting their moneys worth.
yeah, but most gallery builders are too fucking stupid to understand what "sample" means.........if you want to sample an ice cream flavor at Baskin Robins, they give you one of those little wooden spoons, not a shovel...

reynold 05-02-2004 05:26 PM

This makes sense.

neewwman 05-02-2004 05:42 PM

For a pay site, instead of being "Playboy" on the outside and "Hustler" on the inside, be censored Hustler on the outside and uncensored Hustler on the inside. You can let them know exactly what you have without letting them enjoy any of it. For example, ExtremeHole.com

EviLGuY 05-02-2004 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by neewwman
For a pay site, instead of being "Playboy" on the outside and "Hustler" on the inside, be censored Hustler on the outside and uncensored Hustler on the inside. You can let them know exactly what you have without letting them enjoy any of it. For example, ExtremeHole.com
Great advice.. I'd love to promote more sites that did exactly this. :)

Snake Doctor 05-02-2004 06:46 PM

I agree in principle that giving away less free content might increase sales, however its just not practical in today's marketplace.

It's similar to car dealers saying that if none of them were willing to negotiate, then everyone would have to pay sticker price for the cars and they'd make more money.
This in principle is true, but due to the competitive nature of the marketplace there would always be someone (more likely several someones) willing to cut the prices to steal business from their competition.

In this business our commodity is traffic, and we all work hard to try and get and keep as much traffic as we possibly can so we can convert it into sales.
If we cut out the reason the traffic comes to our sites (free content) then there will inevitably be someone else out there offering the content to take the traffic from you.

You can't just sit on your soapbox and cry foul while your competition puts you out of business. You do what you have to do to make a living.


:2 cents:

OzMan 05-02-2004 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Free porn screws up, yet at the same time FUELS the industry. :)
I was looking at an interesting refraction of light caused by the four empty Heineken's on my desk and this revelation suddenly came to me:

To paraphrase the Great Homer Simpson...

"Free porn is the cause of and the solution to all of the Adult Industry's problems"

SoundMan 05-02-2004 07:54 PM

well there would be 10 zillion pay sites selling 10 cent trials and 1 dollar rebills if it was all free...

tony286 05-02-2004 08:08 PM

When we got rid of all graphic nudity on our site sales doubled. IF I can jerk off for hours to graphic free pics whats the motivation to join?

newsdude 05-02-2004 08:37 PM

Free pics just tickles the mind and they'll ask for more.

Mr.Fiction 05-02-2004 09:11 PM

Finally, someone came up with a topic that hasn't been covered before! :1orglaugh

The Click 05-02-2004 10:18 PM

Still a valid topic. I bet we would all do better sales if TGPs would tone it down a bit, and gallery builders for that matter.


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