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[SJ]	04-29-2004 12:35 AM

The Truth About THESE CHEAP ASS HOSTS

This Info Is Str8 From Me.. I Use To Own 50% of BrightServers.Com

It is a 2 man operation. Matt and whatever clown he hired in my place after I quit.

All servers are bought from dinix.com and they resell them.

Or they buy from emil @ atrivo.com (Same place adultxspace.com, vibehosting.com, & thexxxhost.com buy from)

Servers thru Emil are cheap, but low management come with that..

VibeHosting.com also is a 2/3 man operation based outta some diff country.. they are not a real company..

Thexxxhost.com is a 16 yr old kid who started with vibehosting and is now branching off to his own shit. Owner name "Mickal" he lives in aus, and is just a kid, and has vibehosting's KeyDet helping him out.

Adultxspace.com - buys boxes at around $140 and resells them @ around $650 per box.. You want the same deal all these companies get, goto atrivo.com and contact EMIL

THESE COMPANIES HAVE THE WORST TECH SUPPORT, HELP, ETC.. avoid them like they are the devil....

[SJ]	04-29-2004 12:41 AM

EDIT:

They buy at $140 and after they rip you they are selling that same box @ around $650

margarita

04-29-2004 12:43 AM

Why did you quit ?

todaygalleries(dot)com

04-29-2004 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [SJ]
EDIT:

They buy at $140 and after they rip you they are selling that same box @ around $650

It looks like they have good biz plan.
Good info for many webmasters. DON'T USE THIS HOSTS :BangBang:

MrJackMeHoff

04-29-2004 12:44 AM

Ive been telling people here for along time they never listen. I always laugh when people ask for the cheapest host, or settles for shit just cause they havnt fucked up lately.

Yeah I run a host. But I keep it a secret here mostly cause I dont need the headache of idiot customers. Nicely said man!

woj	04-29-2004 12:44 AM

One man operations are not always bad...
sometimes the owner is really on top of things, can offer great support and propably cares more about the customer than the big companies...
but these are probably rare though.. :-/

BRISK

04-29-2004 12:47 AM

Dirty laundry :glugglug

MrJackMeHoff

04-29-2004 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by woj
One man operations are not always bad...
sometimes the owner is really on top of things, can offer great support and propably cares more about the customer than the big companies...
but these are probably rare though.. :-/

Not faulting them for that at all. I run a small host with huge bandwidth. But since we don't take sites under 5mbitp sec we dont need 1000 employees. Im just talking about these cheese hosts on here fighting over $5 host packages and selling the same gig to five customers for 20cents...

[SJ]	04-29-2004 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by margarita
Why did you quit ?

I can be better then the bitch, being a system admin and tech support and sales person.

Sorry I dont like running all 3

Right now they dont have a system admin....

Jamie

04-29-2004 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Dirty laundry :glugglug

Sounds like it

Everyone starts somewhere, cheap hosts are not always the worst thing in the world. Although I have no comment on the above mentioned hosts.

chaze

04-29-2004 12:54 AM

Whew glad we are not on that list :eek7 :eek2 :eek7

boardersweetie

04-29-2004 12:55 AM

I used to let brightservers fuck me over for my site hosting until i wised up a little while ago. good to hear i was right all along

[SJ]	04-29-2004 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Not faulting them for that at all. I run a small host with huge bandwidth. But since we don't take sites under 5mbitp sec we dont need 1000 employees. Im just talking about these cheese hosts on here fighting over $5 host packages and selling the same gig to five customers for 20cents...

lets list the sites that fit this

vibehosting.com
brightservers.com
thexxxhost.com
adultxspace.com

All desperate for that $5
that makes the box only $135 :thumbsup

MrJackMeHoff

04-29-2004 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [SJ]
lets list the sites that fit this

vibehosting.com
brightservers.com
thexxxhost.com
adultxspace.com

All desperate for that $5
that makes the box only $135 :thumbsup

hehe yeah thers other on here for sure everytime I see em offer 300 gigs for $20 per month I know they full of shit.

[SJ]	04-29-2004 01:02 AM

oh shit I forgot to mention I worked for vibehosting.com too..

Keydet - wierdo from some diff country

Mickal - 16 yr old from aus (maybe younger)

Both still run vibehosting.com, and buy boxes from [email protected]

Mickal also runs thexxxhost.com

[SJ]	04-29-2004 01:08 AM

:321GFY

AVOID

VIBEHOSTING.COM
BRIGHTSERVERS.COM
ADULTXSPACE.COM
THEXXXHOST.COM

chaze

04-29-2004 01:09 AM

I like the templates they use, nice designs for a template..

They also have toll free numbers so someone must be there...

No cooperations or BBB status that I can see...

Always curios about other companies, especially when they offer ridiculous prices..

there MRTG shows about 8 MPS which is about 20 of the basic plans they offer.. That's kind of strange...

[SJ]	04-29-2004 01:15 AM

BUMP

darksoul

04-29-2004 01:16 AM

let me see if I get it right,
brightservers has awful tech support, and you were the one
that handled the servers.
Sure that makes sense :1orglaugh
no wonder you got booted.

Cora Linn

04-29-2004 01:17 AM

sounds like spam. :) alot of emil @ atrivo.com

lol

[SJ]	04-29-2004 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by darksoul
let me see if I get it right,
brightservers has awful tech support, and you were the one
that handled the servers.
Sure that makes sense :1orglaugh
no wonder you got booted.

Uh dip shit, I replied to 99% of the complaints.

And if you were smart, BrightServers Wouldnt even concern you.

Brightservers is a "buy a box, sell that box" operation, if u dont believe me search for lensman's respone to brightservers...

Shaze

04-29-2004 01:19 AM

:1orglaugh everyone thinks they are a web hosting company nowadays! even me! just walking around the mall or eating lunch at a restaurant you always hear guys on the phone saying they own a computer computer company that does web hosting, wed design, blah blah blah....too funny.

dunefield

04-29-2004 01:19 AM

it's good to inform people about things like this...

but don't make it drama...

mryellow

04-29-2004 01:19 AM

Here is a hosting deal for you....

$1.95 a month.

UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH!!!

Just let me know if you're stupid enuff to fall for it :-)

-Ben

spentrent

04-29-2004 01:20 AM

Hosting is the one fundamental thing you NEED as a webmaster. Why go the cheap route in the first place? It's like using using an Atari 2600 to design your pages.

[SJ]	04-29-2004 01:23 AM

Can you hook me up with that atari 2600 design???????

[SJ]	04-29-2004 01:27 AM

:321GFY

TO THESE WANNA BE HOSTING COMPANIES

darksoul

04-29-2004 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [SJ]
Uh dip shit, I replied to 99% of the complaints.

And if you were smart, BrightServers Wouldnt even concern you.

Brightservers is a "buy a box, sell that box" operation, if u dont believe me search for lensman's respone to brightservers...

I'm not concerned about BS genius...
just don't talk about other's hosts tech support because
you obviously you know nothing about.
It happens that my company is taking care of the
adultxspace servers.
I think I've been long enough in this field and I know my shit
and I provide better tech support that many other so called
hosts.
Anyone that worked with me before can vouch for me.
Sure, they rent some servers from atrivo, but
whats your point ?
oxeo rents from isprime
and likewhoa had their own servers :1orglaugh

[SJ]	04-29-2004 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by darksoul
I'm not concerned about BS genius...
just don't talk about other's hosts tech support because
you obviously you know nothing about.
It happens that my company is taking care of the
adultxspace servers.
I think I've been long enough in this field and I know my shit
and I provide better tech support that many other so called
hosts.
Anyone that worked with me before can vouch for me.
Sure, they rent some servers from atrivo, but
whats your point ?
oxeo rents from isprime
and likewhoa had their own servers :1orglaugh

KID STFU YOU DONT KNOW SHIT

spentrent

04-29-2004 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [SJ]
Can you hook me up with that atari 2600 design???????

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[SJ]	04-29-2004 01:45 AM

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BigVlad

04-29-2004 01:55 AM

Quote:

oxeo rents from isprime ??????

[SJ]	04-29-2004 02:39 AM

:thumbsup

Donnie Gangsta

04-29-2004 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
hehe yeah thers other on here for sure everytime I see em offer 300 gigs for $20 per month I know they full of shit.

I realize that $20 is cheap for 300 gigs but is not an unreasonably low amount. Any company with decent commitment levels from (good) providers can buy bandwidth at $40-$45/mbit. Your average customer uses less than half of their plan so this would work out to a marginal profit over-all. This business model would be like Rackshack/ev1servers -- acquire thousands of customers and make small margins off huge volume.

Probably not the most practical business model for a one or two man operation that doesn't have marketing dollars to acquire customers but still doable for some..

VeriSexy

04-29-2004 02:45 AM

EMIL from atrivo.com is a very nice guy. He's on webhostingtalk allot :thumbsup

Nicky

04-29-2004 02:50 AM

Good info, thanks for that!

johnbosh

04-29-2004 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [SJ]
EDIT:

They buy at $140 and after they rip you they are selling that same box @ around $650

lolll

pradaboy

04-29-2004 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigVlad
oxeo rents from isprime ??????

they have a CoLo at Isprime yes

AndrewX

04-29-2004 03:18 AM

Ok lets look at this from the other side!

Come on everyone you all know how shit brightservers is. Read any post and they are complaining about there support! And are you going to beleive the guy that handled that? Id say he most likely got booted or the company wasnt going to well.

I own TheXXXHost along with Chris and Mike, Not a 1 man operation. I dont know much about VibeHosting myself but they seem like a normal company.

SJ? why did u leave? why did you leave vibehosting?

Why are you saying bad stuff about other companys and former companys dont you have any thing better to do?

My 2 cents :ak47: :BangBang:

Thanks

bufferover

04-29-2004 03:22 AM

How about Velcom.com ?? Someone here used their hosting service

Ar3s	04-29-2004 03:23 AM

atrivo.com ?

coming up soon? O_o

AndrewX

04-29-2004 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ar3s
atrivo.com ?

coming up soon? O_o

lol :1orglaugh

AndrewX

04-29-2004 03:27 AM

also you mention some guy called mickal? i have never heard of him!

Lykos

04-29-2004 04:39 AM

Nicely said!!

keyDet79

04-29-2004 06:25 AM

Geez he's back again ;) First of all, I thought you were back in jail? And where's your Swoit sig, no more business on GFY at all?

There's no Mickal working at Thexxxhost. Yeah he's 16 or so, I used to own Thexxxhost, he ran it as a co-branded reseller solution. The domain was sold to the current management team a long time ago, along with the server at Atrivo which I paid for in full btw (I'm sure you knew this).

Atrivo (same kind of one man colo operation with hired techs) got a bit cheaper and better in bandwidth since Emil bought Hostany, I believe if you're fast you might still be able to nail one of those 500GB 2.0's with him, I wish him all the best til he gets his new hardware and site up.

By the way I thought you and your Brightservers buddy were hosted at Candidhosting? So you told me once in a thread where you denied being the owner of it, I'm confused now.

But now since you got kicked from Vibe and then Brightservers, I bet there's some room for you on a Thexxxhost reseller plan, what do you think?

Vitasoy

04-29-2004 06:43 AM

Interesting read. ;-) Popcorn anyone?

johndoebob

04-29-2004 06:53 AM

Quote:

They buy at $140 and after they rip you they are selling that same box @ around $650

That's called business not ripping somebody off,or do you gibe things away for free? :winkwink: :2 cents:

Anyway you got to watch out these days if you don't need whole servers cause there are so many resellers who get their stuff from other people who don't know shit about linux or securing servers or even manage them correctly instead of putting so much clients on the server that it'll have a massive slowdown or crash regulary.

Always remember,too cheap can't be good,stay away from all those webhostingtalk.com kids,they are not the right solution for serious business.And mostly don't even have a clue how to handle administration panels :2 cents:

Their "companies" will be gone in 1 or 2 months when they realise that 10GB space per customer and 100GB bandwidh for 9,95$ was not a good idea,because most use what they pay for. :winkwink: :2 cents:

Brad Mitchell

04-29-2004 07:08 AM

Things that make you go HUMMMMMM...

Good luck everyone :glugglug

Cheers,

Brad

[SJ]	05-01-2004 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by keyDet79
Geez he's back again ;) First of all, I thought you were back in jail? And where's your Swoit sig, no more business on GFY at all?

There's no Mickal working at Thexxxhost. Yeah he's 16 or so, I used to own Thexxxhost, he ran it as a co-branded reseller solution. The domain was sold to the current management team a long time ago, along with the server at Atrivo which I paid for in full btw (I'm sure you knew this).

Atrivo (same kind of one man colo operation with hired techs) got a bit cheaper and better in bandwidth since Emil bought Hostany, I believe if you're fast you might still be able to nail one of those 500GB 2.0's with him, I wish him all the best til he gets his new hardware and site up.

By the way I thought you and your Brightservers buddy were hosted at Candidhosting? So you told me once in a thread where you denied being the owner of it, I'm confused now.

But now since you got kicked from Vibe and then Brightservers, I bet there's some room for you on a Thexxxhost reseller plan, what do you think?

Hey keydet learn your shit..

And thexxxhost is owned by Michael from Aus. he is 16, he also works for vibehosting. And if u dont remember u stupid fuck I quit Vibehosting once u were apart of it. Because your a skandelous bastard and broke as fuck. As for brightservers.. its ran by an 18 yr old and someone else now.. I dont need to be apart of these chop shops.. Your reseller ass keydet wont servive if people know your source.. Same goes for thexxxhost and adultxspace and brightservers..

Get pissed because I exposed what you are.. I dont give 2 shits...

BradM

05-01-2004 01:40 AM

I had the same problem from Emil personally.

I asked him to setup an FTP account for me so I could ftp into an affiliates domain and setup a script.
I am by NO means a sys admin let alone could I EVER do anything on a *nix box aside from pico.

Bottom line is he told me the commands (well half of them) to do it myself. When it didn't work (like I told him it would) he stopped replying to me and completely ignored me when I said "See, instead of wasting an hour trying to be smart, you could have had me off your back in 5 minutes if you'd done it yourself."

Lazy admin as far as I am concerned.

I know shit about admin and I told him this and he still tried to make me do it all.

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