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newbreed 04-28-2004 06:08 PM

PrivateIvy, a question for you.
 
My qeustion is this...

How/where/when did you file and recieve a trademark on your name? I called a couple of weeks ago to the USPTO and they said trademarks are not issued on a personal name unless the name is a business entity and part of a corporate logo.

We are currently trying to resolve a similar issue (mainstream business) where the offending party is not only using our company/product/brand name, but also copying our sales practice. SO we have spent considerable time and money trying to get some kind of protection.

I would seriously like to know how you did it and where I can find the info.

edit - unless you mean you have a "copyright", not a trademark.

newbreed 04-28-2004 06:10 PM

I'll check back later, I gotta run out.

PrivateIvy 04-28-2004 06:11 PM

You can NOT copyright a name.....Only Trademark...and yes, it is the name I use for business, the name found on my tax returns and on my business license. Otherwise I couldn't accept checks or open a bank account in that name. Therefore, it did fall under a trademark and I did file for like $335.00 to trademark it.



:winkwink:

Ivy

CDSmith 04-28-2004 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
You can NOT copyright a name.....Only Trademark...and yes, it is the name I use for business, the name found on my tax returns and on my business license. Otherwise I couldn't accept checks or open a bank account in that name. Therefore, it did fall under a trademark and I did file for like $335.00 to trademark it.
I thought you were away......... at band camp....

Rob 04-28-2004 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
....$335.00 to trademark it.

:winkwink:

Ivy

THAT'S AWESOME! I've never had anything Trademarked before but I thought it costed A LOT more money than that. Maybe I'm thinking about Patents and not Trademarks.

Where can I get trademark info, Ivy?

PrivateIvy 04-28-2004 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
THAT'S AWESOME! I've never had anything Trademarked before but I thought it costed A LOT more money than that. Maybe I'm thinking about Patents and not Trademarks.

Where can I get trademark info, Ivy?

here ya go...

http://www.uspto.gov/teas/index.html

PrivateIvy 04-28-2004 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
I thought you were away......... at band camp....

well, I was remembering this one time.......at band camp......

:1orglaugh

Ivy

Mr.Fiction 04-28-2004 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
THAT'S AWESOME! I've never had anything Trademarked before but I thought it costed A LOT more money than that. Maybe I'm thinking about Patents and not Trademarks.

Where can I get trademark info, Ivy?

Trademarks are cheap and you can do them online:

http://teas.uspto.gov/

Rob 04-28-2004 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
here ya go...

http://www.uspto.gov/teas/index.html

Ivy, they should have dropped you on Iraq cause you are DA BOMB!!!

Mucho Grassyass! :thumbsup

PrivateIvy 04-28-2004 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
Ivy, they should have dropped you on Iraq cause you are DA BOMB!!!

Mucho Grassyass! :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

I'm gonna have to steal that line ......:winkwink:

Ivy

Rob 04-28-2004 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
:1orglaugh

I'm gonna have to steal that line ......:winkwink:

Ivy

You can't, I just Trademarked it! :Graucho

PrivateIvy 04-28-2004 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
You can't, I just Trademarked it! :Graucho

Well damn.....that reminds me of this OneTtime..........At Band Camp


:1orglaugh

Ivy

johndoebob 04-28-2004 06:21 PM

Can't find your name as a trademark there.

CDSmith 04-28-2004 06:24 PM

I just registered (and trademarked)........ bandcampbitches.com



Now everyone can be reminded.... of that one time....... at band camp.

Rob 04-28-2004 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
I just registered (and trademarked)........ bandcampbitches.com



Now everyone can be reminded.... of that one time....... at band camp.

Nice catch! :thumbsup

PrivateIvy 04-28-2004 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
I just registered (and trademarked)........ bandcampbitches.com



Now everyone can be reminded.... of that one time....... at band camp.

Well damn!!! I bet you could kick ass with that....slogan/theme being This ONE TIME......at BAND CAMP.....

geez, I shoulda thought of that first :1orglaugh

Ivy

newbreed 04-29-2004 11:30 AM

OK, just spent another 2 hours on the phone with our attorney and the USPTO. Again, we are being told that you cannot do what you have claimed you did. Do you have a copy of any of the paperwork or do you remeber who you spoke with over in WA? Was there a particular form you used and if so did it have a number or ID on it we could use for reference? Most govt. forms have some kind of version number on them. Or, what year was this done in, maybe something has changed and there is another form that replaced the one you did.

Thanks again,
Bill

DreamCumTrue 04-29-2004 11:33 AM

:thumbsup

newbreed 04-29-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
:thumbsup
:thumbsup

SlickRick 04-29-2004 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
THAT'S AWESOME! I've never had anything Trademarked before but I thought it costed A LOT more money than that. Maybe I'm thinking about Patents and not Trademarks.

Where can I get trademark info, Ivy?


Yes patents are a little more costly. When I had my machine shop we had a process to machine a product that we had to patent cost $5,000 plus another 2,500 to go through an attorney.

newbreed 04-29-2004 04:09 PM

:helpme

newbreed 04-30-2004 11:31 AM

Still nothing...:helpme

Just tried going through an online trademark company and got told the same thing, no way to do this. What's the secret Ivy???

Mr.Fiction 04-30-2004 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbreed
Still nothing...:helpme

Just tried going through an online trademark company and got told the same thing, no way to do this. What's the secret Ivy???

Maybe you could do a search at USTPO.gov and find other performers who have successfully registered their names as trademarks and do what they did?

Jenna Jameson has a trademark on her name, as do Tiger Woods and Billy Joel.

newbreed 04-30-2004 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Maybe you could do a search at USTPO.gov and find other performers who have successfully registered their names as trademarks and do what they did?

Jenna Jameson has a trademark on her name, as do Tiger Woods and Billy Joel.

Did you read the whole thread?

I have spent several hours looking for the info and talked to the USPTO 3 times this week. Also consulted our attorney and a company that does this service for a fee. All I am asking is for a better lead than the one she gave me.

High Quality 04-30-2004 01:50 PM

Um, I have no idea

goBigtime 04-30-2004 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
THAT'S AWESOME! I've never had anything Trademarked before but I thought it costed A LOT more money than that. Maybe I'm thinking about Patents and not Trademarks.

Where can I get trademark info, Ivy?


You can trademark anything for free.....

Just slap a (TM) on it and it's done.

But if you actually have a (R) -- registered trademark (like $330 or whatever) then it's on file with the USPTO and you have a lot more instant leverage against trademark violators.

goBigtime 04-30-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
Therefore, it did fall under a trademark and I did file for like $335.00 to trademark it.


How long ago did you file?

FoundrySteve 05-01-2004 05:03 AM

I'm sure you figured this out already, but Trademarking isn't an immediate process. You have to do a search to see how many trademarks are similar to yours, and what they're being used for (in our case, it was a bunch), and then you have to decide how you're going to trademark it (clothing, CDs, etc)... Our logo and name took a year to get trademarked, and then we had to copyright all of our cartoons (all of which were wearing the trademarked logo).

http://www.foundrymusic.com/bannerad...120x60-FM2.gif

newbreed 05-02-2004 10:20 AM

<<BUMP>>

Because I see Ivy is on the board now....

Please, we are all awaiting your insite.

edit - i geuss b u m p is banned now...lol

PrivateIvy 05-02-2004 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FoundrySteve
I'm sure you figured this out already, but Trademarking isn't an immediate process. You have to do a search to see how many trademarks are similar to yours, and what they're being used for (in our case, it was a bunch), and then you have to decide how you're going to trademark it (clothing, CDs, etc)... Our logo and name took a year to get trademarked, and then we had to copyright all of our cartoons (all of which were wearing the trademarked logo).

http://www.foundrymusic.com/bannerad...120x60-FM2.gif

My answer is....WHAT HE SAID !!! hehe

And great to see you around here Steve.....here's a pic I shot for Foundry in case any of you don't know him...their site rocks !!

Ivy

http://ivyfaulkner.com/portfolio/IvyFMshoot.jpg

PrivateIvy 05-02-2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Maybe you could do a search at USTPO.gov and find other performers who have successfully registered their names as trademarks and do what they did?

Jenna Jameson has a trademark on her name, as do Tiger Woods and Billy Joel.

Exactly...many models, artists and public personalities have trademarks on their Trade Name

:thumbsup

Ivy

newbreed 05-02-2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
My answer is....WHAT HE SAID !!! hehe


That's what I thought, thanks. And I didn't need another pic of you, there are enough all over without a new one. How about just answering the question or if you do not really have the TM just say so so I can stop wasting my time.

newbreed 05-02-2004 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
Exactly...many models, artists and public personalities have trademarks on their Trade Name

:thumbsup

Ivy

Right, many do, and if any of them posted and touted off on GFY that they had gone through the process, I would have already asked them. You came and announced to everyone that you did, that's why we are asking YOU, not them. I doubt very highly that Jenna or Tiger would return my e-mail asking them for advice...

PrivateIvy 05-02-2004 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbreed
Right, many do, and if any of them posted and touted off on GFY that they had gone through the process, I would have already asked them. You came and announced to everyone that you did, that's why we are asking YOU, not them. I doubt very highly that Jenna or Tiger would return my e-mail asking them for advice...
hmmm...... I'm not sure why you continue with this? I posted the link to register a trademark. Do you want step by step instructions or something? :arcadefre

Ivy

PrivateIvy 05-02-2004 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbreed
That's what I thought, thanks. And I didn't need another pic of you, there are enough all over without a new one. How about just answering the question or if you do not really have the TM just say so so I can stop wasting my time.
The pic wasn't for you... I shot that pic for FoundryMusic, and since he posted in this thread, thought I'd post.

I think you must be yet another board troll harassing me for no reason on this old thread, and I will not be replying to you anymore.....

Ivy

newbreed 05-02-2004 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
hmmm...... I'm not sure why you continue with this? I posted the link to register a trademark. Do you want step by step instructions or something? :arcadefre

Ivy

And I have replied over and over that the link you provided was of no use for the process you are claiming you have been through. Have you read my replies? Look them over again, I'm sure I was very clear on my points. NO ONE at the USPTO, nor our attorneys, nor at least 2 online TM sefvices has told me that the TM you claim to have is possible, so I am very SIMPLY asking you how/when/where you did it.

If oyu can't provide that SIMPLE info, I don't believe you have a TM on your name. In fact, a couple of people here have even searched for ANY TM on your name and found no results.

newbreed 05-02-2004 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
The pic wasn't for you... I shot that pic for FoundryMusic, and since he posted in this thread, thought I'd post.

I think you must be yet another board troll harassing me for no reason on this old thread, and I will not be replying to you anymore.....

Ivy

Yeah, a board troll, you nailed me there. I stuck around to troll for over 1140 posts.

And the thread is what, 3 or 4 days old?

PrivateIvy 05-02-2004 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbreed
Yeah, a board troll, you nailed me there. I stuck around to troll for over 1140 posts.

And the thread is what, 3 or 4 days old?

*bows down to the mega GFY poster* .......maybe after another 1140 posts, you'll learn to follow a link and register a trademark

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ivy

Jaden 05-02-2004 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbreed
And I have replied over and over that the link you provided was of no use for the process you are claiming you have been through. Have you read my replies? Look them over again, I'm sure I was very clear on my points. NO ONE at the USPTO, nor our attorneys, nor at least 2 online TM sefvices has told me that the TM you claim to have is possible, so I am very SIMPLY asking you how/when/where you did it.

If oyu can't provide that SIMPLE info, I don't believe you have a TM on your name. In fact, a couple of people here have even searched for ANY TM on your name and found no results.

I followed the link that Ivy posted out of curiousity and all the info is there...not sure where you are looking, but it is there...

Everything you would need to know.... try this link for more specific information http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac...Application002

newbreed 05-02-2004 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
*bows down to the mega GFY poster* .......maybe after another 1140 posts, you'll learn to follow a link and register a trademark

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ivy

Yep, maybe so. Would be cool to be as l33t as you right out of the box. Oh, what's this here...

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Ivy, can you link me to your trademark please. I can not find you at the uspto.gov

I really want to make damn sure someone can not just claim a copyright and a sponsor kills there account. Otherwise I and others may get very worried.

All I was asking for was some more help other than... Follow this link... SOme of us have the same stake that you do in these kinds of sites. If we cannot work together and help each other out then slowly, one by one, each one of us may succomb to the things that this other webmaster tried to do to you.

And since you seem to be taking this quesiotn as a personal attack, let me save you some time.... Obviously you are in the contest, so I cannot truely and accurately tell you what I really think about your crap for participation and help on the board in this specific matter. 9 weeks to go though, I won't forget, no worries, take advantage of it while you can. :thumbsup

psyko514 05-02-2004 10:58 AM

i'm gonna start trademarking things left and right.

newbreed 05-02-2004 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jaden
I followed the link that Ivy posted out of curiousity and all the info is there...not sure where you are looking, but it is there...

Everything you would need to know.... try this link for more specific information http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac...Application002

I followed the link as well, and nothing on that page struck me as having to do with what she was talking about, that's why I refined my questions to make it more simple to answer and point me in the right direction.

PrivateIvy 05-02-2004 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
i'm gonna start trademarking things left and right.
Do you need some help figuring out how to do that??

:1orglaugh

:winkwink:

Ivy

Jaden 05-02-2004 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbreed
I followed the link as well, and nothing on that page struck me as having to do with what she was talking about, that's why I refined my questions to make it more simple to answer and point me in the right direction.
You need to read it...it tells all about what you need to submit as far as a logo...what you need to be able to show and prove...the differences between goods and services definitions...how to submit your application it really is all right there....Sorry you don't have the time to go through and read it. I spent 15 minutes there and got the basics. Guess when it becomes important enough you can spend the time to figure it out.

PrivateIvy 05-02-2004 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jaden
I followed the link that Ivy posted out of curiousity and all the info is there...not sure where you are looking, but it is there...

Everything you would need to know.... try this link for more specific information http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac...Application002

Thanks Jaden, I've heard from many others that had no problems figuring it out with the link that I gave in the Original thread about this.....The original thread spelled it all out, that's why this one that he's been bumping for 4 days seems like a joke:1orglaugh

I'm always up for helping others out, but once you've done all you can and someone still doesn't get it, or insults you, etc. , well, then it's just time to move on LMAO Some people you just can't help !!!

Ivy

PrivateIvy 05-02-2004 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jaden
You need to read it...it tells all about what you need to submit as far as a logo...what you need to be able to show and prove...the differences between goods and services definitions...how to submit your application it really is all right there....Sorry you don't have the time to go through and read it. I spent 15 minutes there and got the basics. Guess when it becomes important enough you can spend the time to figure it
out.

EXACTLY !!!!

:thumbsup

Ivy

Trixie Racer 05-02-2004 11:13 AM

I paid an attorney to take care of everything for me. :thumbsup

Here is his information:

John Alumit
Attorney at Law
[email protected]
www.tmlawoffices.com
800-973-7114
tel 818-592-4037
fax 818-592-4041

Jaden 05-02-2004 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrivateIvy

I'm always up for helping others out, but once you've done all you can and someone still doesn't get it, or insults you, etc. , well, then it's just time to move on LMAO Some people you just can't help !!!

Ivy

Exactly! Seems to me to only makes sense that SOME effort is required on the other persons part.....

newbreed 05-03-2004 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jaden
You need to read it...it tells all about what you need to submit as far as a logo...
MMMMMMMkay, "logo", not name.

'Nuff said.


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