OK 12 clicks here we go again.. and that goes for the rest of you fuckin republican s
 

sheep too!


http://www.seethefactsforyourself.com/


any questions?

Why do you try to fuck with him?


:1orglaugh

Yeah,

Is that website Biased?

Oh fuck! I'm not a republican or conservative, but I'm sure as hell no democrat either. But come on man John Kerry is as big of a fuckup as Bush is.

lost all creditability king bush!

Ok, how about this site then Joeshoe:

http://www.gop.com/kerryvskerry/Round1.asp?uid=0

Both sites promoted by a particular party.

Ha Ha Ha cool site...

but as usual, my site link deals with facts, and the link you provided was done as a joke to try to get people to not pay attention to the FACTS!

actually they are facts, have you seen his voting record?

I am simply trying to save the man from all the humiliation he will suffer when Bush is put on trial one day , or worse we get involved in a third world war due to his lies!

nope there will be no titty fuckin if bush and the neo cons are able to steal another election! so you better pay attention

They don't seem to mention that kerry and his wife moved 57 plants off shore.

:Graucho

i dont think gore would have been any better than bush...

Republicans are like debts, even though you hate them, there is no denying they own you.:glugglug

heinz 57 I get it haha

but seriously if you are in business and the rules are set for your competition, then you have no choice but to comply or go out of busines, or do something to change it (wich Kerry will do, and is attemting to do )
also do not forget that they have (the companies that Kerry and his family own) how many people employed IN the US, and provide how much in Tax revenue to the country, in how many different ways, and how much of his own money has he donated to things such as schools, churches, and community projects aimed at improving the community , before you just follow like a sheep, learn your FACTS!!! and not just from sound bites on the fox news channel please
But as it is now Bush has forced even decent hard working american companies like Hienz to have to follow suit! or perish, and loose that many more american tax paying jobs!

Are you joking or just brainwashed by talk radio?

Teresa Heinz Kerry does not "own the Heinz Corporation" ? she has no involvement whatsoever with the management or operations of the H.J. Heinz Company, nor does she own anything close to a controlling interest of the company's stock. According to Heinz itself, the Heinz family trust which Mrs. Kerry inherited sold most of its shares of Heinz stock back in 1995 and currently holds less than a 4% interest in the company

Moreover, the Heinz Company's operations are not an example of the type of outsourcing that is currently a hot political issue (i.e., sending out work to offshore companies to provide services which a company might otherwise have employed its own staff to perform). Heinz is a U.S.-based global business which sells its products in dozens of other countries, and like other food companies it has to localize some of its production at factories located in its foreign market areas. (It makes little sense from either an economic or a freshness standpoint to be shipping fruits and vegetables and/or finished food products halfway around the world rather than producing them locally.) One wouldn't expect, for example, every can and bottle of Coca-Cola sold anywhere in the world ? whether it be Australia, China, or Portugal ? to be produced by U.S. bottlers.)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp

Personally, I think all Republicans should be gassed and buried in lime pits. Kids too. That will leave more beer for those who are worthy. :glugglug

you don't expect anyone to believe that do you?

Accept it - about half the people in the US hate Bush, but the other half love him. No one gives a shit what you or any of us think. You're after attention, you watch TV and think you know something that matters more than the rest of us.

Your best bet is Hillary in '08 :thumbsup

...cant we all just get along? Cmon... both sides. Group hug.

Bill Clinton had higher approval ratings during the impeachment than Bush does now.

You better hope that Jeb can beat President Kerry in 2008. :1orglaugh

Hummm - I guess you can find a poll, or just make something up, to support just about any view can't you?


No, after 4 more years of Bush, it's Hillary bashing time !!!

I'd love to stay and play - but I have work to do.

By the time I get back this thead, like all the Bush bashing foolishness soon, will be aff the front page.

February 11, 1999

As the impeachment trial of President Clinton was winding down, polls by ABC News and CBS News show Clinton's job approval rating at 66%.

The president's approval rating has been in the 60s throughout the last year.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/president/0211notes.asp

Bush is not even close! :1orglaugh

he only thing you got right is Hillary would be a great cvhoice, but she will have to wait eight years now...

BTW I never watch TV the neo cons control it and the friggin radio now!

Holy fuck that's still going on ? btw I got your ICQ this morning then it crashed one shot I couldn't see the message and it wasn't logged :(

Any pornographer who supports or votes for Bush is an idiot and needs to think about it.

1) There is no denying that he will try to close us down with his "Moral Crusade" I say us as someone beyond his reach who will benefit from the removal of American porn companies.

2) By reducing the spending power of the working class he hurts this business even more. We make our money out of the millions spending money on pleasures. Reduce the money they have and the first thing to go is "Pleasure purchases" Look at your memberships and think how many of them were included in Bush's tax breaks. So what ever tax break you got, think of how that hurt you by reducing the money people had to spend on the Adult Internet.

Who would you vote for, if you were a US citizen, Paul?



Joe..... why do you wait for a long weekend to post this nonsense? Anyone that knows anything knows that 12clicks has better things to do on a long weekend than slap the board mice around.

Whatever, he may swing by, you never know. Just kind of funny that these threads calling out 12clucks always pop up on a weekend or holiday, as if the fucker posting it knows and does it because he's a fucking coward.



More wine anyone?

Bush loses voter approval: poll
From correspondents in Washington
April 10, 2004

SUPPORT for the Bush administration's handling of Iraq is eroding, with only 44 per cent of Americans approving of the situation, according to a CNN/Time poll.

The poll also found President George W. Bush's own approval rating had sunk to a record low of 49 per cent since CNN/Time started polling in the earliest days of the Bush presidency in 2001.

The survey found 44 per cent of those canvassed approved of Bush's handling of the situation in Iraq, where new unrest has caused fresh US casualties in the past week.

That was down from 51 per cent approval in a poll held from March 26 to 28.

Just over half the respondents, 51 per cent, disapproved of the president's management of Iraq, according to the new poll which was conducted on April 8.

Overall, 47 per cent said they disapproved of the way Bush was handling his job as president.

However, public perception of Bush as a strong fighter of terrorism remained robust.

A majority of 55 per cent backed Bush in that regard against 39 per cent who disapproved.

On the economy - which consistently ranks amongst the public's highest concerns - a minority of 41 per cent expressed satisfation with Bush, while 54 per cent disapproved of his economic management of the country.

The telephone poll canvassed 1005 adults. The margin of error was three per cent.

Agence France-Presse

No... Bush is at 49% today....

that's pretty damn close to HALF isn't it?

And isn't HALF of the people hate Bush and HALF love him what I said?


I'm happy you think Hillary is a good choice... in fact I hope every Drmocrate in the country supports her in '08.

I REALLY do!

Well not for Bush, I thought he looked bad from the beginning. So I guess it would have been Gore and this time Kerry.

What I see of Kerry I like, what I saw of Gore I did not. Was thinking that in a country as powerful and big as America this is the best you have?

And let's face it before 9/11 Bush was a nothing, he used it to his benefit.

Being Canadian, I've never really understood the worth of having a two-party system like the US has. I know that it is great that one party can gather most of the support, and with a 3+ party system there is always the risk that all the smaller parties can band together and swing more votes than the ruling party...... but damn, having to choose between Bush and Gore?.... holy shit, it's no wonder there was a contraversial vote count last time.



For me the jury is still out on Kerry. Does he have the strength of character needed to be president? The moral resolve? In some forums he's looking good, but he is getting mixed reviews in others. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out as Election day approaches, that's for sure.


I forsee it getting ugly on GFY.

you better hope something bad happens to Hillary between now and November, otherwise Kerry ain't gonna be president of squat.
She won't allow it.

wow you pay that close of attention to me CD , I am flattered really.
and I would love for you to back up your accusation with FACTS!!! show me the dates of my posts could ya please?

Yep I win every fact ladened argument I ever have with a guy, (except the pic posting debacle haha ) and I am the one who is scared? seems to me if I got something to say I say it, instead oftrying to be subversive and sneaky like....well you know that already don't you...

coward? really if you think I am a coward, meet me for a coffe or something in Atlanta... I will give you the opportunity to see just how scared I am ...

and since your canadian, exactly what do you think Bush is doing to help the USA out so much perhaps drive the value of our dollar in to the shitter so that the canadian money is actually worth more than 57% on the dollar like it was when Clinton was in? hmmmm looks like the poster maybe has an agenda , love a good conspiracy theory

Bush has done nothing. Congress, unions, government regulations, enviro wackos, lawsuits, workers comp, osha are forcing these moves.

:Graucho

got a link to back up your bullshit?
not likely asshat.
hey, you ever find a sucker,.........er.........partner to save your dying biz that you couldn't sell?:1orglaugh

well son, let me tell ya, it must suck to be wrong about everything , all the time huh.... :)

see, here's the thing about foriegn morons, they never have facts, they just make up bullshit and pretend to have a clue.

asshat, EVERYONE got a tax break and millions more were dropped off the tax rolls.

the idiocy of this board never ends.:1orglaugh

translation: I have no links. like my business, I'm all bullshit.:1orglaugh

what would you like a link to my freind, the social security administration (for you to see how much GW robbed from them for a tax cut , that he claims did not hurt social security?)

or how about a link to ANY news agency (yes even fox) that shows what a fucked up situation GW has gotten in to in Iraq,?

or how about the unemployment offices (when GW says we creating jobs but the data says otherwise?)

or how about this, try not using a link and actually talking with real people and ask them how there life has benifited or been hurt by GW and his neo con policy?

we HAD the record surplus when he went in, we now have a record deficite..... and for what? oh yeah security right....hahaha so you actually believe we are safer now? or do you realize we are now in more danger than we have ever been thanks to GW (agasin with the neo con mentality behind his FAILED policys?

EVERY campiagn promise has been broken, he has flip floped more than Kerry every dreamed of etc.... that should get you started, but of course yopu will try to divert facts with some bullshit joke or attempt to smear me... go ahead cause just like GW is doing for our enimies you only make me stronger the more you continue to fail at your attempts with the lies you spew!

I told you what I want a link to, moron. Are you stupid or just playing dumb.
here, I'll dumb it down for you.

I'd like links to these arguments you've won.

You already know the ones, you have dreged them up with the search function many times,

Man I miss Serge he was at least more than one dimensional with his game, you suck ! you only have the same old spin and it is actually starting to bore me now, and I know everyone has already read those threads but dig em up if you feel the need to show how you got owned by a stupid newbie once again..., you know if you cant stick to the facts, then I am gonna have to stop playing with you....

I baited you in kicked your ass publicly, and now have no further uses for you... thanks alot though little lamb , you played right into my plan exactly like a good little sheep should have.... so glad to see you here, stick around a while you might learn something .. I always do while I am here, and even with people like you trying to obstuct and confuse the new ones.... I just keep getting stronger.... do you see me in your mirror? better take a close look cause this time next year I will only be showing you my ass and elbows cause you will have to look at me from behind by then .. good luck to you man, I hope that your thoughts here have been a game to you as they have with me, cause if not you are in some serious mental trouble and should seek councling soon . love ya take care... but unlike you I will not be playing with you anymore no matter what you try to get me to play... just like when you wanted to do this on another board but instead I made you come here hahaha have a good life chump.... and BTW if you ever grow a set of nuts , and can actually face someone in person without hiding, I will be waiting to see you in person any day you would like to chat....

Translation: In my one room apartment where fantasy replaces reality, I win arguments, run successful businesses, and have a brain.:1orglaugh

Your propoganda lies will not work here.:)

EVERYONE got a tax break...

Just no checks. ;-) I know a dozen people that make 35k to 90k that never got a dime. Looking at their withholding percentages this year as opposed to last... where IS the break? Certainly NOT on their stubs so far in '04. lol

I missed this the first time around.



why does the rabble always think it takes "nuts" to meet someone in person?
son, my days a far too busy to give classless idiots like yourself even 5 minutes of my time in person.

here you're just a diversion from work, in person, you'd be an embarrassment to be seen with.

now run along and add this to your list of threads where you showed me who was boss.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Nice try, but still as weak as usual....:)

Tips for anyone wasting their time considering replying to Joesho:

In his eyes, he offers facts, you'll only offer propaganda.

He'll insult you, then bash you for insulting him.

He'll claim he "kicked your ass" after presenting not a single fact, opinion, or argument of his own.

If all else fails, he'll change the subject, and accuse you of something he totally pulled out of his ass.

You'll get a more stimulating debate out of your average four year old about which of the teletubbies is the better singer.

:thumbsup