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galleryseek 03-31-2004 01:50 PM

Opt-in Mailers: Should you still have a bp host / 3rd pty processor?
 
I have a big mainstream monthly subscription site almost ready. This guy, I somewhat know says he is a real big opt-in mailer (legit, no spam). He said he'd promote it, but it'd be in my best interest to not use my real merchant account, and signup with a 3rd party processor + stick the site on one of his secure servers. He said even though hes a legit opt-in mailer, its still best to take those measures because people still complain.

Is this true? I just want to make sure if I commit to this, that I won't get in trouble if he really is indeed a spammer.

Theo 03-31-2004 01:55 PM

interesting thread

zagi 03-31-2004 02:00 PM

Umm if he's a spammer, and you took all these precautions how would you get in trouble?

PostWhore 03-31-2004 02:06 PM

people are stupid and they will complain.
You wont get a lot of complaints but you will get some.
YOu better email your hosting and processing company and ask them what they think about opt-in mailing.

galleryseek 03-31-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PostWhore
people are stupid and they will complain.
You wont get a lot of complaints but you will get some.
YOu better email your hosting and processing company and ask them what they think about opt-in mailing.

good response. i'll do that.

JulianSosa 03-31-2004 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
I have a big mainstream monthly subscription site almost ready. This guy, I somewhat know says he is a real big opt-in mailer (legit, no spam). He said he'd promote it, but it'd be in my best interest to not use my real merchant account, and signup with a 3rd party processor + stick the site on one of his secure servers. He said even though hes a legit opt-in mailer, its still best to take those measures because people still complain.

Is this true? I just want to make sure if I commit to this, that I won't get in trouble if he really is indeed a spammer.


Have him host the "landing page" and do a small test send to judge the complaints. 1-2 complaints per million sent is normal.

Theo 03-31-2004 02:19 PM

interesting thread

galleryseek 03-31-2004 02:22 PM

the host said if they recieve more than 10 complaints per week, they cancel the account.

Keev 03-31-2004 02:25 PM

Why would you get in trouble if the mail is not coming from your server or hosting account? If he's promoting you have him mail it from his server.

Danny 03-31-2004 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keev
Why would you get in trouble if the mail is not coming from your server or hosting account? If he's promoting you have him mail it from his server.
I sugest at least a landing page on other networks to help get rid of most of the complaints. Spam cop and some other automatic systems can cause a problem if you are only allowed 10 complaints a week. I would possibly consider maybe even going a step further and having the first few pages of the site hosted somewhere else. Until you know the complaint volume that will be generated you will have to be very careful with that low of a complaint limit.

KDizzla 03-31-2004 03:37 PM

You dont need bp for an opt-in mailling list.

p1mpdogg 03-31-2004 03:39 PM

very interesting thread

hehe

fris 03-31-2004 03:43 PM

maybe if you own the cage in your datacenter whos gonna complain to who? unless they goto the big boss. so you obviously got the bandwidth. or you are really tight with your host.

Danny 03-31-2004 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KDizzla
You dont need bp for an opt-in mailling list.
With a threshhold of 10 complaints a week I tend to disagree... all it takes is a very few people to send in to spam cop or another automated system and your screwed... with any large list it WILL generate complaints... even if it is opt-in... better to be safe than have your host shut you off...

Basic_man 03-31-2004 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zagi
Umm if he's a spammer, and you took all these precautions how would you get in trouble?
yeah right.. looks okay to me ! :2 cents:


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