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DeadFidel 03-26-2004 08:28 AM

President Bush takes down HowardStern.com
 
Turned into a political website, www.HowardStern.com, has been shut down by many ISPs. He put anti Bush, pro Kerry links on the site and many will not link it. Freedom of speech is GONE.

Dark..I hope I beat you to it....lol

gornyhuy 03-26-2004 08:29 AM

Come on... that can't be true.
It hasn't gone THAT far has it?

marcj 03-26-2004 08:29 AM

usa sucks

hova 03-26-2004 08:29 AM

Thank god I only go to the Us on vacation

PiksalDesign 03-26-2004 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by marcj
usa sucks
Quote:

Originally posted by hova
Thank god I only go to the Us on vacation
You people have no clue. :1orglaugh

ATL_Ryan 03-26-2004 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeadFidel
Turned into a political website, www.HowardStern.com, has been shut down by many ISPs. He put anti Bush, pro Kerry links on the site and many will not link it. Freedom of speech is GONE.

Dark..I hope I beat you to it....lol


Take the comma out of the URL. Try link checking next time.

titmowse 03-26-2004 08:32 AM

maybe it's just...down. i hear that happens on the interweb. :winkwink:

llabtaem 03-26-2004 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by marcj
usa sucks
http://www.shaveshow.com/owned/cluepon.jpg

Manowar 03-26-2004 08:40 AM

Welcome to facism, established 2001

Meta Ridley 03-26-2004 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeadFidel
Turned into a political website, www.HowardStern.com, has been shut down by many ISPs. He put anti Bush, pro Kerry links on the site and many will not link it. Freedom of speech is GONE.

Dark..I hope I beat you to it....lol

\


Either your joking, or you're a dumbass. Rite now I'm thinking the latter.

mindoza 03-26-2004 08:43 AM

I know aol people can not get on HS site. so what you do is go through google search and get there that way!!!!!!!!

always a way!

VeriSexy 03-26-2004 08:43 AM

Works fine for me :thumbsup

mardigras 03-26-2004 08:44 AM

Have you ever been to the Howard Stern website? He doesn't really use it. It will sit wth nothing but a single picture on the index page forever.

DeadFidel 03-26-2004 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meta Ridley
\


Either your joking, or you're a dumbass. Rite now I'm thinking the latter.

Rite (sorry, right) now I would call you an asshole, but I don't know you, so I will not. I cannot give you the MP3 file at this moment, but I will post it as soon as it comes up on usenet.
Nobody can make this stuff up.

Roger 03-26-2004 08:50 AM

works fine here.

samuel 03-26-2004 08:51 AM

Yes, trying without the comma it works for me.. but anyway it doesn't looks like some HS official site... what you think about?

I'm not keen of political oppression at any place.. but you know that everywhere are a lot of people talking and asaying things with no sense..

samuel:BangBang:

gornyhuy 03-26-2004 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mardigras
Have you ever been to the Howard Stern website? He doesn't really use it. It will sit wth nothing but a single picture on the index page forever.
Apparently YOU have not been there recently. :2 cents:

DeadFidel 03-26-2004 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by CJ_Ryan



Take the comma out of the URL. Try link checking next time.


My bad, but the problem still is there. I did not say ALL ISPs.

Meta Ridley 03-26-2004 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeadFidel


Rite (sorry, right) now I would call you an asshole, but I don't know you, so I will not. I cannot give you the MP3 file at this moment, but I will post it as soon as it comes up on usenet.
Nobody can make this stuff up.

It's OK. You can call what you want.

arg 03-26-2004 09:14 AM

While I don't think the government has done anything to censor it, as the site becomes more political, it will be subject to regulation by the federal election commission. You can't just put up web sites and state your political view in the US, unless it costs you under a couple hundred bucks or something. You need to file paperwork with the federal election commission. It's the same reason you can't take out an ad in the paper or run a TV commercial espousing your political viewpoint.

We have freedom of speech, as in we can walk down the street and say "hey, I don't like Bush," or write non-obscene political statements on a piece of sign and carry it in certain government-approved areas, but when it costs money to broadcast our opinions to several people at once, that freedom has been elminated through "campaign finance reform." As a webmaster, be advised that you can get in deep shit if you promote any political causes on your sites and fail to file the proper paperwork. Ironically, last election Bush was railing against an anti-Bush web site, which until then had been within the allowable spending limits, but once he talked about it in the media, it got bombarded with traffic, and drove up the bandwidth costs, which caused it to be in violation of FEC spending limits. I think they initiated an investigation, but the PR backlash caused the complaint to be withdrawn.

Rich 03-26-2004 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by arg
You can't just put up web sites and state your political view in the US
Quote:

Originally posted by arg
We have freedom of speech

lol, hopefully with your huge "tax cut" you can buy yourself a clue.

Freeway 03-26-2004 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Rich



lol, hopefully with your huge "tax cut" you can buy yourself a clue.

:1orglaugh

arg 03-26-2004 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
lol, hopefully with your huge "tax cut" you can buy yourself a clue.
If you assumed I was defending the legislation regulating speech, or Bush's position on the matter, I was not. If you think I'm simply misinformed about the Federal Election Campaign Act, it's possible, but the last I heard:

Quote:

Prohibited contributions and expenditures: The law prohibits corporations, labor organizations, federal government contractors and foreign nationals from making any contributions and expenditures to influence federal elections.[ 11 ] It also prohibits contributions to federal elections in another person's name and prohibits cash contributions in federal elections of more than $100.

Identification requirements: While "independent expenditures" by individuals or groups are unrestricted, where any expenditure finances communications expressly advocating the election or defeat of a clearly identified candidate or soliciting contributions through any general public political advertising, the communication must identify the party responsible by name and indicate whether or not it is authorized by the campaign.
(Source: http://www.cdt.org/speech/political/financereport.shtml)

Is howardstern.com expressly advocating the defeat of George W. Bush? It's debatable, and I'm sure Stern's attorneys are carefully tiptoeing around the issue. Look on the site and there's a section of "Friggin Bush" links, all critical of Bush, and Stern says "Vote out every Republican you can find," but that assiduously avoids advocating the defeat of a "clearly identified candidate." I don't listen to his show, so I don't know, but has he explicitly advocated Bush's defeat? Or is he just criticizing him and his positions?

Doctor Dre 03-26-2004 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gornyhuy
Come on... that can't be true.
It hasn't gone THAT far has it?

Dude have you seen the fucking ads ? It's propaganda nothing else

BigFrog 03-26-2004 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by arg


(Source: http://www.cdt.org/speech/political/financereport.shtml)

Is howardstern.com expressly advocating the defeat of George W. Bush? It's debatable, and I'm sure Stern's attorneys are carefully tiptoeing around the issue. Look on the site and there's a section of "Friggin Bush" links, all critical of Bush, and Stern says "Vote out every Republican you can find," but that assiduously avoids advocating the defeat of a "clearly identified candidate." I don't listen to his show, so I don't know, but has he explicitly advocated Bush's defeat? Or is he just criticizing him and his positions?


sorry, but you are wrong. he can put up whatever he wants, and it will have nothing to do with campaign finance reform.

arg 03-26-2004 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFrog
sorry, but you are wrong. he can put up whatever he wants, and it will have nothing to do with campaign finance reform.
He can say whatever he wants, as long as it's not paid-for commercial speech - talk shows like that are presumably profitable, or try to be profitable, so they're not spending money to espouse their political views. If they weren't profitable, then the person or group providing funding to broadcast the shows would need to comply with FEC regulations. (Either tiptoeing around the regulations, or registering and keeping within spending limits).

The web is uncharted territory. The law certainly suggests that if a person or group are spending money to finance a web site of the nature described in FECA (above), then they fall under FEC regulation as well. So far the public and politicians asking that the measures not be enforced with regards to the web, as it's still an area in its formative stages, but the law is still on the books. There are plenty of defenses possible too. But I'm not sure why you think it has nothing to do with campaign finance reform. Have you read any case law or legal opinions on the issue? Having had SS investigations concerning my political domains, I try to keep on top of these things.

mardigras 03-27-2004 06:22 AM

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Originally posted by gornyhuy


Apparently YOU have not been there recently. :2 cents:

Not since a couple of weeks ago when it had the "Passion of the Stern" pic on the page. Good to see they're using it for something more worthwhile now:)

Shoehorn! 03-27-2004 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by llabtaem
http://www.shaveshow.com/owned/cluepon.jpg
:1orglaugh

dav555add 03-27-2004 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeadFidel
Turned into a political website, www.HowardStern.com, has been shut down by many ISPs. He put anti Bush, pro Kerry links on the site and many will not link it. Freedom of speech is GONE.

Dark..I hope I beat you to it....lol

www.HowardStern.com not www.HowardStern.com,
Go back to Havana and fuck a donkey :321GFY

- Jesus Christ - 03-27-2004 06:29 AM

Why do non-americans always come into threads about things that don't concern them and spout stupid one liners?


EDIT: Oh wait I forgot... It does concern them becasue we are the only global super power left. If I fart, it affects your economy. So keep bashing the US. :D

Living For Today 03-27-2004 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Why do non-americans always come into threads about things that don't concern them and spout stupid one liners?


EDIT: Oh wait I forgot... It does concern them becasue we are the only global super power left. If I fart, it affects your economy. So keep bashing the US. :D

Exactly. You guys think u own the world so thats why non americans come into threads like this.

- Jesus Christ - 03-27-2004 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Living For Today


Exactly. You guys think u own the world so thats why non americans come into threads like this.

No actually you asshat...
IM responding to comments that we already made... You can't use my comment to jusitfy comments made before I typed it.

+ your stupid if you deny the fact that the us is a global super power.

Try not using any sponsor who pay in US dollars Fucktard, this industry (along with many others) is centered here.

I know you haev to act liek a patriot for your country and that all well and good, but on GFY tons of morons are always player hating my country.

ITs lame.

AllisonWonderland 03-27-2004 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Living For Today


Exactly. You guys think u own the world so thats why non americans come into threads like this.

We do own the world.

Pun 03-27-2004 07:43 AM

Getting away from this whole "USA runs shit" debate... I was just going to say that the quote on Howard Stern's site is one of the better ones I've read in awhile.

(For those who haven't visited, or don't want to visit.. I'll do the honor)

Quote:

"If there is a bedrock principle of the First Amendment,
it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea
simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or
disagreeable."

-- Justice William J. Brennan
(1906-1997) U. S. Supreme Court Justice

Mutt 03-27-2004 07:44 AM

what the fuck? that site isn't a commercial site. Can't Howard Stern have a personal website where he can say whatever he wants like every other citizen of the United States? Because he also has a radio show he can't have an anti-Bush bumper sticker on his car?

i'm not really up on the election laws so maybe he doesn't have the right. can a private citizen buy ad space in a newspaper and write in support or against a candidate? if so then then Howard Stern.com is no different than that.

I thought if u weren't being paid by the parties that u could do whatever u wanted.

sounds bad to me.

Head 03-27-2004 07:47 AM

If it in fact got shut down by the Bush admin. You guys better vote him out!

DarkJedi 03-27-2004 08:00 AM

we should hook him up with some bulletproof hosting :glugglug

arg 03-27-2004 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
what the fuck? that site isn't a commercial site. Can't Howard Stern have a personal website where he can say whatever he wants like every other citizen of the United States? Because he also has a radio show he can't have an anti-Bush bumper sticker on his car?

i'm not really up on the election laws so maybe he doesn't have the right. can a private citizen buy ad space in a newspaper and write in support or against a candidate? if so then then Howard Stern.com is no different than that.

I thought if u weren't being paid by the parties that u could do whatever u wanted.

sounds bad to me.

Stern can have a personal website, the same as anybody. Legally, however, individuals as well as companies and other groups fall under campaign finance laws. A private citizen can buy ad space if it's under $100, or for more if it doesn't advocate election or defeat of a particular candidate. It doesn't matter whether you're being paid by the parties or not. That's part of what the campaign finance reform debate has been about - a loophole existed such that you couldn't give much to a candidate, but you could spend billions of dollars running your own ads for a candidate, or against their component. Not much has changed, but new loopholes had to be found to achieve the same thing.

PMGames 03-27-2004 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mardigras
Have you ever been to the Howard Stern website? He doesn't really use it. It will sit wth nothing but a single picture on the index page forever.
Totally agree....up until recently there has not really been an active stern website....which I always found ironic, but it is true....now it looks like it is just being used as forum for them to post links to his position on the FCC, CC, and Bush

Argoz 03-27-2004 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
works fine here.

DeadFidel 03-28-2004 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add


www.HowardStern.com not www.HowardStern.com,
Go back to Havana and fuck a donkey :321GFY

In keeping with my, "I don't hurt you, you don't hurt me" additude, I must self bump at this time.

I am so very glad you came up with such an original feedback. Your parents must be proud.

:)

timboss 03-28-2004 09:54 AM

the site works fine, how can you say Bush took it down? I dont think he really gives a fuck about Stern's website.


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