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mrthumbs 03-26-2004 12:16 AM

how can google do all those quick searches?
 
dont give me the cache explanation because cache needs to be indexed to..

How does google search billions of pages within a fraction of a second.. not only that is amazing.. she does it for 10 thousands simultaneously.

Is there a secret or is it just machine power?

psyko514 03-26-2004 12:17 AM

It's all about the Pigeon Rank technology.

http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html

StuartD 03-26-2004 12:17 AM

rooms and rooms full of servers... I figure they gotta have a ton of machines all working together to perform all those searches and indexing and everything else.

psyko514 03-26-2004 12:19 AM

<h3>The technology behind Google's great results</h3>
As a Google user, you're familiar with the speed and accuracy of a Google search. How exactly does Google manage to find the right results for every query as quickly as it does? The heart of Google's search technology is PigeonRank?, a system for ranking web pages developed by Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin at Stanford University.


Building upon the breakthrough work of B. F. Skinner, Page and Brin reasoned that low cost pigeon clusters (PCs) could be used to compute the relative value of web pages faster than human editors or machine-based algorithms. And while Google has dozens of engineers working to improve every aspect of our service on a daily basis, PigeonRank continues to provide the basis for all of our web search tools.

Mr. Marks 03-26-2004 01:41 AM

probably spider machine power.

Rorschach 03-26-2004 01:45 AM

http://www7.scu.edu.au/programme/ful...21/com1921.htm

woj 03-26-2004 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach
http://www7.scu.edu.au/programme/ful...21/com1921.htm
I was about to post that... it's a good read :thumbsup

Jamief 03-26-2004 02:01 AM

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When a search query is submitted to Google, it is routed to a data coop where monitors flash result pages at blazing speeds. When a relevant result is observed by one of the pigeons in the cluster, it strikes a rubber-coated steel bar with its beak, which assigns the page a PigeonRank value of one. For each peck, the PigeonRank increases. Those pages receiving the most pecks, are returned at the top of the user's results page with the other results displayed in pecking order.
Is that just a stupid joke or something

Rorschach 03-26-2004 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by Jamief


Is that just a stupid joke or something

:1orglaugh

You saved up your first post to say something retarded?

johnbosh 03-26-2004 02:03 AM

the pigeon idea really works

Ash@phpFX 03-26-2004 02:11 AM

interesting read there

the Shemp 03-26-2004 02:13 AM

i always though they just had a ton of horsepower

beemk 03-26-2004 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamief


Is that just a stupid joke or something

nope its real..... just like bangbus

DarkJedi 03-26-2004 02:19 AM

They got tens of thousands of servers.

vapewiz 03-26-2004 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
nope its real..... just like bangbus

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Garou 03-26-2004 03:05 AM

wow! google was created by Russian programmist :))

valley hina 03-26-2004 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou
wow! google was created by Russian programmist :))
for real i didnt know that!!

Crazy you learn shit everyday

SomeCreep 03-26-2004 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
dont give me the cache explanation because cache needs to be indexed to..

How does google search billions of pages within a fraction of a second.. not only that is amazing.. she does it for 10 thousands simultaneously.

Is there a secret or is it just machine power?

Yes, the algorithms are a secret. They use "advanced" computer science concepts and programming. Other than that, it gets very technical. :glugglug

Serge Litehead 03-26-2004 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
They got tens of thousands of servers.
literally



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http://google.com/bsd

foolio 03-26-2004 03:35 AM

google is one of thise things that as long as it works I dont care how it works

chrisp420 03-26-2004 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
<h3>The technology behind Google's great results</h3>
As a Google user, you're familiar with the speed and accuracy of a Google search. How exactly does Google manage to find the right results for every query as quickly as it does? The heart of Google's search technology is PigeonRank?, a system for ranking web pages developed by Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin at Stanford University.


Building upon the breakthrough work of B. F. Skinner, Page and Brin reasoned that low cost pigeon clusters (PCs) could be used to compute the relative value of web pages faster than human editors or machine-based algorithms. And while Google has dozens of engineers working to improve every aspect of our service on a daily basis, PigeonRank continues to provide the basis for all of our web search tools.

massive clusters will yeild anybody great results. their datacenter machine layouts are amazing.

nastyking 03-26-2004 04:52 AM

Writing Powerful Programs in C and C++

Using Technologies to avoid slow Hard disk Operations (Big Files)

Using Stuff like Lexicon, Word IDs, etc ..

Every word found in the document is turned into an integer number (wordID)

When somebody searches for "gay seals" it's turned for example into 123 and 653. Then Google looks for all documents matching this two Word IDs. This way they get around SLOW string comparisons ....

To rank the site Google uses a Hitlist.

For every document found it calculates the IR. If "seals" is for example in Hn tags it's a greater Hit as if it would be in normal P tag ...

Then it uses factors like PR, IBLs, anchor text, proximity of keywords and a lots of stuff we do not know to give it the final touch :glugglug

This powerful piece of software is than run on 1000 of cheap servers ...

:thumbsup

Full Paper

montel 03-26-2004 04:55 AM

The staff at google are extremely smart. They have more Phd's per square foot there than any institution I can think of.

sexsup 03-26-2004 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou
wow! google was created by Russian programmist :))
I always knew it :1orglaugh

Mike-BP 03-26-2004 05:11 AM

it's magic

NetRodent 03-26-2004 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep

Yes, the algorithms are a secret. They use "advanced" computer science concepts and programming. Other than that, it gets very technical. :glugglug

The ranking algorithims are secret, how they serve up results quickly has been published. There have been several articles published about how their clusters are organized, their use of ram disks, etc. I'm too lazy to dig them all up, here's one I happened to have handy:

http://www.cs.rochester.edu/sosp2003...5-ghemawat.pdf

If you want to find the others, try searching on Google.

mardigras 03-26-2004 08:10 AM

One of the prime time news magazines showed the Google servers awhile back. They were huge, went down a corridor and were behind chain-link fence.

mrthumbs 03-27-2004 09:43 AM

thank you all for the explanation. it makes sense now :thumbsup

Intrigue 03-27-2004 10:19 AM

There servers also use a properiatary filesystem known as GFS which is capable of searching and indexing multiple terabytes of data very effeciently, also developed by the magnificient bastards at google!

uvort 03-27-2004 10:26 AM

none the less, its pretty fuckin crazy how then can do that..


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