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mrthumbs 03-23-2004 05:05 PM

WWIII anytime soon?
 
Seriously.. im wondering.. what do you think the odds are for a global war, full battle mode within the upcoming 5-10 years?

WWIII or WWIV if you consider the cold war a WW.

Will shit cool down with the exception of some 'terrorist' incidents
or is what weve seen just the beginning and something 'big' is in the making?

Should i be worried?

The Heron 03-23-2004 05:06 PM

I sure hope it happens soon, I've got a nice stockpile of spam saved up for just such an occasion!

Rorschach 03-23-2004 05:08 PM

I can only see things getting worse and worse. :( Hopefully things will calm down a bit the US has a change of administration... Bush is leading the world straight to hell.

StuartD 03-23-2004 05:08 PM

I think the US is pushing all the wrong buttons... world leaders or not, there's a whole lot of countries out there who are developing a major hatred for the red, white and blue.

Even if they don't all gang up and go after the US... it still brings some tensions to a boil and countries could lash out elsewhere.

Ic3m4nZ 03-23-2004 05:09 PM

In less than 10 years for sure.

Nathan 03-23-2004 05:09 PM

WWIII will be (is) very much different than any other WW was before. The reasons WWI and II happened was because the world got closer together by the technology advanced so much. We are now at a point where we are SO Advanced, that a full blown world war would make no sense, everyone knows that nuclear war is a stupid thing to do.

In my oppinion we are in the middle of WWIII: terrorism.

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathan
WWIII will be (is) very much different than any other WW was before. The reasons WWI and II happened was because the world got closer together by the technology advanced so much. We are now at a point where we are SO Advanced, that a full blown world war would make no sense, everyone knows that nuclear war is a stupid thing to do.

In my oppinion we are in the middle of WWIII: terrorism.

hmmm

twistyneck 03-23-2004 05:11 PM

I pray for the day the world is destroyed in a nuclear fire. I hate all of you fuckers. :321GFY

StuartD 03-23-2004 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathan

In my oppinion we are in the middle of WWIII: terrorism.

Yeah, but your opinion doesn't dictate what a history book will call it 20 years from now.

A world war is group of countries against another group of countries.

Not someone with a car bomb.

radical 03-23-2004 05:14 PM

I think something will happen, whether or not it will be a full scale war, it depends!! Israel didn't help matters much on Monday!!

Rorschach 03-23-2004 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan

Not someone with a car bomb.

What about someone blowing up a packed train or the world trade centre?

Perhaps in 20 years the history books will look back at the events of the past couple of years as the first tentative strikes.

insanesurfer 03-23-2004 05:17 PM

I don't think there will be a world war but a bunch of minor in and out type of wars.

Strife 03-23-2004 05:18 PM

WWWIII = end of the world

Fletch XXX 03-23-2004 05:20 PM

bury me in a rebel flag with an ounce and a pentagram.

the last civil war we lost 600k southern boys, no doubt this one is gonna cost us millions.

bring it.

:glugglug

StuartD 03-23-2004 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach


What about someone blowing up a packed train or the world trade centre?

Perhaps in 20 years the history books will look back at the events of the past couple of years as the first tentative strikes.

yes, the assassination of the arch duke was the final straw that started world war 1.... but, it wasn't considered war itself.

I'm just saying, terrorism won't be considered world war 3... but sure, quite possibly it could be the trigger that causes it.

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rorschach


What about someone blowing up a packed train or the world trade centre?

Perhaps in 20 years the history books will look back at the events of the past couple of years as the first tentative strikes.

Theres a difference between a simple/car/train bomb
and flying a few plains into the WTC..

A different league.. Al Queda is an invention by the western media..just to give the terrorist threat a face..

I dont think well look back at these 'little' incidents as the 'first tentative strikes'.

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
bury me in a rebel flag with an ounce and a pentagram.

the last civil war we lost 600k southern boys, no doubt this one is gonna cost us millions.

bring it.

:glugglug

hehe.. i think youll change your mind once your herbs and beer
are replaced by real blood and terror :)

Fletch XXX 03-23-2004 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


hehe.. i think youll change your mind once your herbs and beer
are replaced by real blood and terror :)

like what?

live in living in la is pretty much living in a civil war.

i wont even get into history here man.

but know, id spill blood here if needed.

any man would.

has nothing to do with alcohol or herbs.

protecting love ones is a must, and no one should be underestimated when it comes to that kind of reality.

id seen friends get shot here in america now without a war, im prepatred to see whatever else is there, just as you are.

MaxDent 03-23-2004 05:35 PM

WWIII = The Cold War which was fought everywhere.

Terrorism is terrorism and has a different definition.

Nathan 03-23-2004 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan


yes, the assassination of the arch duke was the final straw that started world war 1.... but, it wasn't considered war itself.

I'm just saying, terrorism won't be considered world war 3... but sure, quite possibly it could be the trigger that causes it.

How is terrorism coming basically from far-east muslim countries against any western country (and it will be getting worse and worse) and western countries attacking far-east countries because of that terrorism NOT a war between 2 groups of countries?

Roger 03-23-2004 05:37 PM

Calm down, my plan to take over the world is not yet completed.

Wilbo 03-23-2004 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
I pray for the day the world is destroyed in a nuclear fire. I hate all of you fuckers. :321GFY
Right back at ya big guy :glugglug

BadBrad 03-23-2004 05:42 PM

WWIII will be fought with Nukes. WWIV will be fought with stones.

liquidmoe 03-23-2004 05:43 PM

If we are comparing World Wars then we dont exactly have the setup for a true World War atm. Despite different causes the aims of each World War were the same, they were a power grab for territory. This is no longer the case, there are no countries that are looking to take over the world.

America has never really wanted to do that, at most it wanted to exert its influence over other nations for financial gain, but that is far short of invading and occupying land with the express purpose of turning it into an extension of America as a 51st state.

There are some nations that are looking for territorial expansion, but that is mostly old qualms rising to the surface again, India vs. Pakistan, Middle East, and so forth.

As China modernizes if its successful its reasons for war will be diminished. When everyone is living in poverty war isn't that much worse, but if everyone there has a pair of nike sneakers, coca-cola in the fridge, high speed DSL, and a home, they wont be as willing to give their lives.

That's not to say that America may not face some troubles in the future or that we are entering safe times by any means, but a World War isn't exactly in the brewing, however America is becoming more at risk for attack because of unpopular foreign policy and terrorism isn't something to be ignored.

Gotta see what develops further. It's like Spain and 9/11. So far 9/11 has been a more or less isolated incident in America, and its not enough to cause true terror because we arent living every day fearing our possible demise, which is the exact opposite situation in some places in Israel which are constantly bombarded by terrorism. As for Spain and its terrorist action and its influence over the election, we will have to wait to see if these events were in fact linked and if in fact some terrorist organizations plan to exert similar influences on governments that they find dislikable.

Now, I would just like to say that minus some grammar or punctuation I got all of that with only one spelling error :winkwink: :thumbsup

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BadBrad
WWIII will be fought with Nukes. WWIV will be fought with stones.
you forgot to give Einstein the appropiate credits.. :Graucho

PMdave 03-23-2004 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


Theres a difference between a simple/car/train bomb
and flying a few plains into the WTC..

A different league.. Al Queda is an invention by the western media..just to give the terrorist threat a face..

I dont think well look back at these 'little' incidents as the 'first tentative strikes'.

No difference . The keyword is DEREGULATION. The attacks (rather it is flying bombs in to yhe wtc, blewing up some trains just before elections, spreading a virus, taking down a boat,... ,... ) are not so much meant o just kill people. All these attacks are just a step closer to chaos.

If you ask me WW3 is going on since the early nineties. A world war that isn't so much a group of countries against another group of countries but more one relegion against the rest of the world.

And there is already a winner from this war... China. While the western world and the arabic world are focussing on terrorism, China focusses on econmic growth.
just my :2 cents:

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
If we are comparing World Wars then we dont exactly have the setup for a true World War atm. Despite different causes the aims of each World War were the same, they were a power grab for territory. This is no longer the case, there are no countries that are looking to take over the world.

America has never really wanted to do that, at most it wanted to exert its influence over other nations for financial gain, but that is far short of invading and occupying land with the express purpose of turning it into an extension of America as a 51st state.

There are some nations that are looking for territorial expansion, but that is mostly old qualms rising to the surface again, India vs. Pakistan, Middle East, and so forth.

As China modernizes if its successful its reasons for war will be diminished. When everyone is living in poverty war isn't that much worse, but if everyone there has a pair of nike sneakers, coca-cola in the fridge, high speed DSL, and a home, they wont be as willing to give their lives.

That's not to say that America may not face some troubles in the future or that we are entering safe times by any means, but a World War isn't exactly in the brewing, however America is becoming more at risk for attack because of unpopular foreign policy and terrorism isn't something to be ignored.

Gotta see what develops further. It's like Spain and 9/11. So far 9/11 has been a more or less isolated incident in America, and its not enough to cause true terror because we arent living every day fearing our possible demise, which is the exact opposite situation in some places in Israel which are constantly bombarded by terrorism. As for Spain and its terrorist action and its influence over the election, we will have to wait to see if these events were in fact linked and if in fact some terrorist organizations plan to exert similar influences on governments that they find dislikable.

Now, I would just like to say that minus some grammar or punctuation I got all of that with only one spelling error :winkwink: :thumbsup

very bright post :thumbsup

except for the fact your forgot about religion as in: people that still believe in something vs the people that dont.

That could be considered as 'territory'.. even more dangerious
and complex territory because there are no borders.

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PMdave


No difference . The keyword is DEREGULATION. The attacks (rather it is flying bombs in to yhe wtc, blewing up some trains just before elections, spreading a virus, taking down a boat,... ,... ) are not so much meant o just kill people. All these attacks are just a step closer to chaos.

If you ask me WW3 is going on since the early nineties. A world war that isn't so much a group of countries against another group of countries but more one relegion against the rest of the world.

And there is already a winner from this war... China. While the western world and the arabic world are focussing on terrorism, China focusses on econmic growth.
just my :2 cents:

the thing is: we dont know the motive, we dont know the enemy.

That even goes for 9/11. Without an (or random) enemy its hard to consider things a war or the start of one.

Fletch XXX 03-23-2004 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs

That could be considered as 'territory'.. even more dangerious
and complex territory because there are no borders.

need some pagan suicide chuch burners?

hahaha

:1orglaugh

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


need some pagan suicide chuch burners?

hahaha

:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

StuartD 03-23-2004 06:08 PM

the problem is that no one wants a world war... that's why they're all trying to amass nukes in the first place.

They'd rather sneak in and wipe out the other guys rather than have to fight for something.

And that, is a scary thought.

KRL 03-23-2004 06:09 PM

WW III Scenarios that could really happen.

1. China invades Taiwan.

2. North Korea invades South Korea or accidently fires missles into Japan.

3. An Arab country nukes or bio-terrorizes Israel.

4. Russian govt. gets taken over by its military and goes back to its old ways.

5. Pakistan and India go nuclear.

6. An enormous meteor strike takes out the entire US east coast and the world is left without an effective superpower to keep dominant military control of planet.

STiNKyMeAT 03-23-2004 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


you forgot to give Einstein the appropiate credits.. :Graucho

Einstein didn't invent the atomic bomb... The government did... Einstein discovered E=MC2 which is mearly the basis for the ideas of the nuclear bomb.

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by STiNKyMeAT


Einstein didn't invent the atomic bomb... The government did... Einstein discovered E=MC2 which is mearly the basis for the ideas of the nuclear bomb.

The quote was by einstein you idiot.

PMdave 03-23-2004 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


the thing is: we dont know the motive, we dont know the enemy.

That even goes for 9/11. Without an (or random) enemy its hard to consider things a war or the start of one.

The clash between two totally different cultures!

-Western world (EU, US) thinks that every country in the world should be democratic, free, modernized,...
-Arabic world (generally speaking, some minor exceptions) thinks that their way of living is atleast even good, if not 100 times better, and try to defend their culture.

I know this is pretty simplistic but notin the mood to write a 5 page assay on an adult board.

maxdaname 03-23-2004 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PMdave


The clash between two totally different cultures!

-Western world (EU, US) thinks that every country in the world should be democratic, free, modernized,...
-Arabic world (generally speaking, some minor exceptions) thinks that their way of living is atleast even good, if not 100 times better, and try to defend their culture.

I know this is pretty simplistic but notin the mood to write a 5 page assay on an adult board.

America and Europe are doing the same things the Commies did!
"Every country should follow our way since it's the best"

PMdave 03-23-2004 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxdaname


America and Europe are doing the same things the Commies did!
"Every country should follow our way since it's the best"

Euhmm... doesn't mean I didn't mentioned Canada when talking bout 'the western world' it isn't a part if it :winkwink:

maxdaname 03-23-2004 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PMdave


Euhmm... doesn't mean I didn't mentioned Canada when talking bout 'the western world' it isn't a part if it :winkwink:

Canada would do anything for the USA & Europe, specially with the biggest suck up we call Prime Minister (Paul Martin).

Mr. Marks 03-23-2004 06:58 PM

War destroys everything good in this world. There is too much pain and death. You can't really know what to expect in the coming years, but I hope the peolple in power would do everything to prevent a WWIII from happening. We should have learned from the past.

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by papichulo
War destroys everything good in this world. There is too much pain and death. You can't really know what to expect in the coming years, but I hope the peolple in power would do everything to prevent a WWIII from happening. We should have learned from the past.
without wars wed still be living in the stone ages..

Roger 03-23-2004 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


without wars wed still be living in the stone ages..

Good point. WWII created lots of technological advances.

maxdaname 03-23-2004 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger


Good point. WWII created lots of technological advances.

Yap and there was a couple of deaths here and there!

mrthumbs 03-23-2004 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxdaname


Yap and there was a couple of deaths here and there!

AIDS didnt do it so dont blame evolution for coming up with new ways to wipe out the masses.


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