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patriot 03-18-2004 11:54 AM

Dialers, Love em or HATE em?
 
Do you use a dialer on your site, does it work?

What conversions do you get from dialers?

Worth the trouble?

Let me Know.. we have the best dialer going...

Johnny Murdoch 03-18-2004 11:57 AM

I use dialers for my sites. They great converts !!

Specially with european traffic

patriot 03-18-2004 12:06 PM

What more do you wanT'

FREE content, great conversions, and pick up punters who don't want to use credit cards

Check us out.

Wilber 03-18-2004 12:22 PM

Quote:

we have the best dialer going
You must be an executive in Advertising. How do you guys come up
with those brilliant phrases that supercede and other dialer-whore?

Just by reading that I want your dialer real bad.



























































...btw, what's a dialer?

Johnny Murdoch 03-18-2004 12:28 PM

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...btw, what's a dialer?
The dialer is a small program for 56k users. After downloading the program, they are redirected to a members area

bdld 03-18-2004 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Murdoch


The dialer is a small program for 56k users. After downloading the program, they are redirected to a members area

:1orglaugh idiot

unconnected 03-18-2004 12:36 PM

dialers rock and I love em..
There are bad apples just like there are with Credit cards..

head over to www.ultimatedialers.com if you want to give em a try, and you can easily double your income with your int'l traffic

Wilber 03-18-2004 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Murdoch


The dialer is a small program for 56k users. After downloading the program, they are redirected to a members area

Like bdld pointed out, you are an idiot. Besides being an idiot you didn't explain what a dialer is correctly. "redirected"? The word "dial" should clue you in as to what it does.

Wilber 03-18-2004 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by unconnected
dialers rock and I love em..
You would have to have ½ your cranium missing to pay per minute to look at porn.

You "love 'em" if your on the giving end of a dialer, if your on the receiving end and
you still love 'em then I got a bridge in San Francisco I'd like to sell you. It's really
long and held up by big cables. I'm willing to let it go for $50,000.00 if you buy it today.

patriot 03-18-2004 01:01 PM

Dialers have come a long way man.. use them for International traffic, and for those por saps who don't own credit cards but still want to wank online...

DialerXP works with modems, LAN and ASDL connections...

Just watch it roll in... :2 cents: :2 cents:

Wilber 03-18-2004 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by patriot
Dialers have come a long way man.. use them for International traffic, and for those por saps who don't own credit cards but still want to wank online...

DialerXP works with modems, LAN and ASDL connections...

Just watch it roll in... :2 cents: :2 cents:

I'm not disputing the successful income a dialer can make.
You just have to decide if that is the credibility-road you
want to travel.

Nobody that installs dialers really wants the user to know
it's $/per minute. It's akin to selling swamp land. You cheated
the user and created a large phone bill for them when that
isn't kosher to being on the up-n-up.

Yea, honesty in porn...what a strange concept huh?

polish_aristocrat 03-18-2004 01:07 PM

he isn't an idiot.
Some new ppl don't know that GFY is full of sarcasm.

HomeTown_Hero 03-18-2004 01:11 PM

love them till they don't pay me.

very creative spam...

riosluts 03-18-2004 01:13 PM

Dialers charge like $5 per minute for the surfer and pay the webmaster about $0.05 per minute. Or even just pay the webmaster $.25 for every dialer downloaded

Wilber 03-18-2004 01:18 PM

Dialer agents are worse than the dialer pushers. Dialers seem to attract the worst in this business.

Remember all that shit years ago with Tyler and Snow? If you've been around awhile you know the story.

patriot 03-18-2004 01:21 PM

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Dialers charge like $5 per minute for the surfer and pay the webmaster about $0.05 per minute. Or even just pay the webmaster $.25 for every dialer downloaded
Some dialer companies work that way for sure. But look at our rates and see the difference,

http://www.dialerxp.com/rates/index.htm

We pay shit loads more than some comps, Switzerland 0.90 USD, Norway 0.30 USD, Denmark 0.30 USD, United Kingdom 1.10 USD, Austria 1.00 USD.

Thats what we pay the webmaster, you don't even need content..

Wilber 03-18-2004 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by patriot


Some dialer companies work that way for sure. But look at our rates and see the difference,

http://www.dialerxp.com/rates/index.htm

We pay shit loads more than some comps, Switzerland 0.90 USD, Norway 0.30 USD, Denmark 0.30 USD, United Kingdom 1.10 USD, Austria 1.00 USD.

Thats what we pay the webmaster, you don't even need content..

This guy is smarter than I first thought.

Mcarlsen 03-18-2004 01:28 PM

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You would have to have ½ your cranium missing to pay per minute to look at porn.
I kind of agree with this. I don't think many people like the thought of paying per minute. What if thier modem is slower? Then they have to pay more to look at just as much porn as a guy with high speed.

Toolz 03-18-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilber

I'm not disputing the successful income a dialer can make.
You just have to decide if that is the credibility-road you
want to travel.

Nobody that installs dialers really wants the user to know
it's $/per minute. It's akin to selling swamp land. You cheated
the user and created a large phone bill for them when that
isn't kosher to being on the up-n-up.

Yea, honesty in porn...what a strange concept huh?

Actually that's incorrect. Current dialer regulations clearly post the rate the user is connected at and the time they have been connected for, these are regulations set down by the International monitoring committee and MOST dialers adhere to this, if they don't they're fined.

Ozzymosis1 03-18-2004 01:31 PM

[spam]

We have German, UK, and other good dialer country traffic for sale :thumbsup

http://www.FastAdultTraffic.com

[/spam]

Toolz 03-18-2004 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by patriot


Some dialer companies work that way for sure. But look at our rates and see the difference,

http://www.dialerxp.com/rates/index.htm

We pay shit loads more than some comps, Switzerland 0.90 USD, Norway 0.30 USD, Denmark 0.30 USD, United Kingdom 1.10 USD, Austria 1.00 USD.

Thats what we pay the webmaster, you don't even need content..

I'd be very interested in just how you're getting away with paying out $1.00 AU, is this per call?

On the per minute, your UK is low, we start at $1.41 per minute and pay higher depending on volume

bdld 03-18-2004 01:34 PM

dialers are definately not what they used to be.

Wilber 03-18-2004 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toolz
Current dialer regulations clearly post the rate the user is connected at and the time they have been connected for, these are regulations set down by the International monitoring committee and MOST dialers adhere to this, if they don't they're fined.
This is not news to me. Of course it's mandatory to display rates according
to laws, this has been on since almost the beginning (after many people where cheated).

The thing is dialer pushers , the smart ones, jam that *.exe on you in a few very
inventive ways. It's all smoke and mirrors and stating what the laws are doesn't
reflect what the community does.

It's against the law to kill ppl yet ppl still get murdered. A statute doesn't stop
criminals and dishonesty.

Wilber 03-18-2004 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toolz


I'd be very interested in just how you're getting away with paying out $1.00 AU, is this per call?

If you can't resolve their IP (dialerxp.com) and the domain reg info
shows you they are a sub-agent of dialer2003.com and that domain
neither resolves nor loads in a browser and you add to the fact that
you can't find one bit of info on Dialer2003 Ltd then one would have
to conclude that someone is going to a lot of trouble to hide.

If you hide that hard and are suppose to send checks then your probably
putting a down payment on a Mexican escape condo as we speak.

Wilber 03-18-2004 02:12 PM

...and when they are actively participating in a thread and you accuse them
of dishonesty and they don't defend themselves then you probably hit the
nail on the head.


No soup for you.

cayne 03-18-2004 02:33 PM

def. hate em. because its shaving. ok people are stupid, but anyway...dont like that way of making cash.

BuckLover 03-18-2004 02:34 PM

Never got great results with them??

Manowar 03-18-2004 02:48 PM

I dont use dialers or popups on my sites, it helps me see a hell of a lot more recurring visitors. applications popping up with pop up traps everywhere puts them off

Steelhead 03-19-2004 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toolz


I'd be very interested in just how you're getting away with paying out $1.00 AU, is this per call?

On the per minute, your UK is low, we start at $1.41 per minute and pay higher depending on volume

Maybe the Australian telcom authorities had their domestic premium rate solution grandfathered in so it wasnt cut? :Graucho

pimplink 03-19-2004 02:59 AM

fuckin' hate them!

Ozzymosis1 03-19-2004 03:09 AM

If you think dialers are no good, then I would have to say that is only because you have never made money with them. Webmasters are too quick to label things as "no good" or "crap" and its only because they haven't learned how to make it work.

Some of the best clients we have ever had are dialer clients. They are loyal, easy going, and are a joy to work with. Why do you think that is? It's because they are getting paid, and dont have to blame other people when things go wrong.

Dialers work well.

You just need to learn how to market them. If webmasters that complain all the time would take more time to learn how to sell things, and spend less time complaining about how the products suck they would all be rich.

[/rant]

reynold 03-19-2004 03:11 AM

I don't use dialer on my sites!!

VeriSexy 03-19-2004 04:19 AM

Always hated them, good thing dialer days are over :glugglug

Shoehorn! 03-19-2004 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilber

If you can't resolve their IP (dialerxp.com) and the domain reg info
shows you they are a sub-agent of dialer2003.com and that domain
neither resolves nor loads in a browser and you add to the fact that
you can't find one bit of info on Dialer2003 Ltd then one would have
to conclude that someone is going to a lot of trouble to hide.

If you hide that hard and are suppose to send checks then your probably
putting a down payment on a Mexican escape condo as we speak.

:thumbsup

Illicit 03-19-2004 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
fuckin' hate them!

that sums it up !

Toolz 03-19-2004 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steelhead


Maybe the Australian telcom authorities had their domestic premium rate solution grandfathered in so it wasnt cut? :Graucho

Haha not holding my breath for that reply from them :)

hova 03-19-2004 06:34 AM

Depends on how they are promoted, but 90% I hate

johnbosh 03-19-2004 07:06 AM

eyah they are promoted very sgressively

mardigras 03-19-2004 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
I dont use dialers or popups on my sites, it helps me see a hell of a lot more recurring visitors. applications popping up with pop up traps everywhere puts them off
That's my philosophy:)

I've had DSL for about 4 years now so I haven't worried about dialers. What's this about dialers that work with DSL? Is there some sort of user interaction required to fund one (like voluntarily submitting billing info)? I can't imagine being able to bill otherwise if it is downloaded by getting a surfer to click an OK button or is "sneaked" onto a PC.

DialerMaster 03-20-2004 04:31 AM

Dialer works good if you know to send your traffic to the right source

bluff 03-20-2004 04:32 AM

HATE

Seb From Holland 03-20-2004 04:51 AM

I love em but with Dutch traffic only.


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