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Rob 03-18-2004 08:52 AM

If Homosexuality is Outlawed, How Will it Affect The Gay Porn Market?
 
As shown on the news this morning, some States are drafting proposals to not only outlaw gay marriages but to outlaw homosexuality, period. They say that people that practice homosexuality are going to be charged with "Crimes Against Nature".

My question is; how will this affect the gay porn industry in those states? Will it be regarded in the same legality as child porn? Will they actually go pro-active and try to arrest gay porn viewers? It just doesn't make sense to me, how about you?

I'm a heterosexual male and by no means a "homophobe". It doesn't bother me now and will never bother me. Regardless if it's male on male, female on female, male on canine, female on donkey, or anything...the government should have no right to intervene and dictate what you choose to do with your sexuality. Fuck all this "PC" bullshit! Homosexuality is not corrupting the moral fiber of our society, it's the fucktards bringing all the attention to it that are to blame for that.

Thoughts?

sixxxth_sense 03-18-2004 08:53 AM

It will insiper more fags to come out I think!!!!

benc 03-18-2004 08:55 AM

Send them to frisco. If they can make their own laws in CA, why not TN.

Juicy D. Links 03-18-2004 08:55 AM

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Tala 03-18-2004 08:55 AM

Don't worry, the county that started the Tennessee bullshit still hasn't figured out that there's life outside of Wal Mart.

They have no idea what DSL is, and I think their only computer is in the public library on a 56k connection.

Rob 03-18-2004 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
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A very thought provoking response, Juicy! :1orglaugh

jimboc 03-18-2004 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
[B]As shown on the news this morning, some States are drafting proposals to not only outlaw gay marriages but to outlaw homosexuality, period. They say that people that practice homosexuality are going to be charged with "Crimes Against Nature".
I'm sorry to say it, but your country is losing the plot. Imprisoning people without trial, Billions in debt, human right and civil liberties going back into the dark ages.

You can't even get the legal age of consent the same for gay / str8.

Seriously fucked up:321GFY

Rob 03-18-2004 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by jimboc


I'm sorry to say it, but your country is losing the plot. Imprisoning people without trial, Billions in debt, human right and civil liberties going back into the dark ages.

You can't even get the legal age of consent the same for gay / str8.

Seriously fucked up:321GFY

Thanks for your insight, Jim. What country are you from?

jimboc 03-18-2004 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid

Thanks for your insight, Jim. What country are you from?

England

icedemon 03-18-2004 09:05 AM

There are already states that have laws against practicing homosexuality. It's kinda hard to enforce, when it's all done privately in the home.

Therefore if it's not affecting gay porn in those states, it shouldn't in any other states that decide to make it illegal.

Giorgio_Xo 03-18-2004 09:06 AM

Homosexuality can't be outlawed. The issue of sodomy and privacy has already ben decided by the Supreme Court.

Roger 03-18-2004 09:08 AM

You can't outlaw homosexuality, it's the US. Hopefully any state who does so will get his lawmakers imprisoned for crimes against humanity.

Rob 03-18-2004 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by icedemon
There are already states that have laws against practicing homosexuality. It's kinda hard to enforce, when it's all done privately in the home.

Therefore if it's not affecting gay porn in those states, it shouldn't in any other states that decide to make it illegal.

I understand that they can't enforce it if it's done in the confines of their own house but that wasn't my question. What if Joe Gay is in a state where practicing homosexuality is illegal and decides to join a gay porn site? If by some chance the authorities find out, will he get arrested for it? Will the site be fined for providing illegal content? They can't bust you for smoking a joint in your house but if a cop comes to the door and catches you, then you'll get busted for it. It's a very similar concept. :2 cents:

jimboc 03-18-2004 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Roger
You can't outlaw homosexuality, it's the US. Hopefully any state who does so will get his lawmakers imprisoned for crimes against humanity.
I'll second that, i'm sorry to be blunt because I respect your nation, but there's just a few issues that really piss me off.

Roger 03-18-2004 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by jimboc
I'll second that, i'm sorry to be blunt because I respect your nation, but there's just a few issues that really piss me off.
oh, I'm Canadian actually :)

Ironhorse 03-18-2004 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Homosexuality can't be outlawed. The issue of sodomy and privacy has already ben decided by the Supreme Court.

Phoenix 03-18-2004 09:24 AM

this sounds more and more like a bad sci fi futurama book

Giorgio_Xo 03-18-2004 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid

I understand that they can't enforce it if it's done in the confines of their own house but that wasn't my question. What if Joe Gay is in a state where practicing homosexuality is illegal and decides to join a gay porn site? If by some chance the authorities find out, will he get arrested for it? Will the site be fined for providing illegal content? They can't bust you for smoking a joint in your house but if a cop comes to the door and catches you, then you'll get busted for it. It's a very similar concept. :2 cents:

Actually if a cop comes and busts you for smoking a joint inside your own house, the cop goes to jail if his PC wasn't related to drugs or he entered without permission. Drug use isn't a jail offense, only drug sales or carrying quanities meant for distribution are.

xenophobic 03-18-2004 09:28 AM

I was especially entertained at the British guy talking about degrading civil/human rights in the United States, In 1997 I was at a large rave in the UK (at least 2,000 people) after the event finished people walking out into the parking lot attempting to go home were handcuffed to their steering wheel and searched for possession of drugs, the power to detain and search were given to them by the "Criminal Justice Bill"
Anyone else see the irony in detain & search AFTER a rave, looking for drugs?

jimboc 03-18-2004 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
I was especially entertained at the British guy talking about degrading civil/human rights in the United States, In 1997 I was at a large rave in the UK (at least 2,000 people) after the event finished people walking out into the parking lot attempting to go home were handcuffed to their steering wheel and searched for possession of drugs, the power to detain and search were given to them by the "Criminal Justice Bill"
Anyone else see the irony in detain & search AFTER a rave, looking for drugs?

That was 7 years ago lol we had a new political party in 1997 and we got rid of those awful conservatives. :1orglaugh

Rob 03-18-2004 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo


Actually if a cop comes and busts you for smoking a joint inside your own house, the cop goes to jail if his PC wasn't related to drugs or he entered without permission. Drug use isn't a jail offense, only drug sales or carrying quanities meant for distribution are.

Giorgio, I agree with you to a certain degree. Maybe marijuana is a bad example seeing how it's slowly starting to be "overlooked" by authorities. I was in Miami for the Winter Music Conference and there were people smoking joints on Collins Ave. with cops no more than 20 yards away! :thumbsup

Good thing for Americans that they're not cracking down on violence! :thumbsup

Giorgio_Xo 03-18-2004 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid

Giorgio, I agree with you to a certain degree. Maybe marijuana is a bad example seeing how it's slowly starting to be "overlooked" by authorities. I was in Miami for the Winter Music Conference and there were people smoking joints on Collins Ave. with cops no more than 20 yards away! :thumbsup

Good thing for Americans that they're not cracking down on violence! :thumbsup

It's a fucked up system, no doubt, but it's better than getting your hand chopped by a sword by some wacko in a turban.

jimboc 03-18-2004 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo


It's a fucked up system, no doubt, but it's better than getting your hand chopped by a sword by some wacko in a turban.

I agree, but it worries me when states or countries think about bringing IN anti gay laws. At one time the US was a free country, proud of it's human rights.

8-12% of your population is gay / bi-sexual and it doesn't seem fair to take away their rights to live as law abiding citizens.

jimboc 03-18-2004 09:53 AM

Oh dear, here goes more human rights, i'll add that to the list too:( http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=254467

xenophobic 03-18-2004 09:57 AM

Has the change been so radical since 1997? tell that to Tony Martin the 57 year old man who was sent to prison for life, for murder in 2000.
Tony Martin had been burgled numerous times and had even removed the top and bottom step of his stairs in attempt to stop burglars robbing his property, one night he shot two people who had broken in to his house to steal his antiques.

He fatally injured one, seriously wounded the other, he is free now having served three years, but now the U.K is paying legal aid to one of the people he shot to sue HIM!

don't kid yourself that the civil/human rights are only being degraded in the U.S, I think you'll find it's a worldwide problem!

jimboc 03-18-2004 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
Has the change been so radical since 1997? tell that to Tony Martin the 57 year old man who was sent to prison for life, for murder in 2000.
Tony Martin had been burgled numerous times and had even removed the top and bottom step of his stairs in attempt to stop burglars robbing his property, one night he shot two people who had broken in to his house to steal his antiques.

He fatally injured one, seriously wounded the other, he is free now having served three years, but now the U.K is paying legal aid to one of the people he shot to sue HIM!

don't kid yourself that the civil/human rights are only being degraded in the U.S, I think you'll find it's a worldwide problem!


He fatally injured one, seriously wounded the other, he is free now having served three years, but now the U.K is paying legal aid to one of the people he shot to sue HIM!

Actually he is back in jail, but a burgler could reform, learn his lesson and become a respected member of the community. You have the right to use "reasonable force" when somebody breaks in to your property.

Guns are illegal and so is killing / attempting to kill people.

WankTank 03-18-2004 10:09 AM

this world is becoming less and less tolerant everyday.
whats next are we gonna make blacks slaves, and throw jews into concentration camps?

xenophobic 03-18-2004 10:22 AM

guns are illegal? my father owns several licensed shotguns in the U.K.

what is reasonable force in the same situation?, the same year sixty-seven people were murdered in their own home by burglers!
The father of the burglar who was killed in Tony Martin's house just went to jail for fourteen years for armed robbery, his son had 29 criminal convictions ranging from theft to assault on the police at the age of 16, the other burglar had 33 convictions ranging from theft, to wounding.
So a 57 year old man, who was law abiding, only wanted to live in peace on his own property goes to jail for murder, this is a man the law should have protected, and yet career criminals have more right than him?
whilst killing a man is not a solution to a problem, how long until he was murdered in his own home by burglars who were determined to fleece him of his property?
The law failed this man, I hope it doesn't fail you too.

Paul 03-18-2004 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by jimboc



He fatally injured one, seriously wounded the other, he is free now having served three years, but now the U.K is paying legal aid to one of the people he shot to sue HIM!

Actually he is back in jail, but a burgler could reform, learn his lesson and become a respected member of the community. You have the right to use "reasonable force" when somebody breaks in to your property.

Guns are illegal and so is killing / attempting to kill people.

That guy deserves a medal for killing that burgler ! You know you live in a fucked up society when the law protects the criminals :mad:

Roger 03-18-2004 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
So a 57 year old man, who was law abiding, only wanted to live in peace on his own property goes to jail for murder, this is a man the law should have protected, and yet career criminals have more right than him?
whilst killing a man is not a solution to a problem, how long until he was murdered in his own home by burglars who were determined to fleece him of his property?
The law failed this man, I hope it doesn't fail you too.

I was shocked too when I heard it but it turns out that this Martin guy was really planning to kill people. Don't remember the full details though. The guy seems like a maniac, besides he's back in jail, this time for stealing.

In short, the current law provides protection only to people who kill while defending their property unless it's shown that the force used was unreasonable.

The guy had an unlicensed shotgun and shot a teenage thief in the back while he was running away.

goBigtime 03-18-2004 10:30 AM

Distractions to keep your eye off the ballots and how they are collected this time.


If you're busy arguing about this, that, and the other thing, you don't have any time to argue or understand the real atrocity which will let them have whatever outcome they want for any issue or election.

jimboc 03-18-2004 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
guns are illegal? my father owns several licensed shotguns in the U.K.

what is reasonable force in the same situation?, the same year sixty-seven people were murdered in their own home by burglers!
The father of the burglar who was killed in Tony Martin's house just went to jail for fourteen years for armed robbery, his son had 29 criminal convictions ranging from theft to assault on the police at the age of 16, the other burglar had 33 convictions ranging from theft, to wounding.
So a 57 year old man, who was law abiding, only wanted to live in peace on his own property goes to jail for murder, this is a man the law should have protected, and yet career criminals have more right than him?
whilst killing a man is not a solution to a problem, how long until he was murdered in his own home by burglars who were determined to fleece him of his property?
The law failed this man, I hope it doesn't fail you too.

Considdering we have lower crime rates than the US, I don't think you have a valid reason to criticise the way we deal with criminals.

Property can be replaced, lives can't. Guns lead to a more violent society.

I disagree with a licence to kill anyone who breaks into somebody else's property. There's noting wrong with a good smack on the head with a baseball bat, but when somebody doesn't have a gun, shooting them dead on the steps is going too far.

BloodFart 03-18-2004 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
As shown on the news this morning, some States are drafting proposals to not only outlaw gay marriages but to outlaw homosexuality, period. They say that people that practice homosexuality are going to be charged with "Crimes Against Nature".
About fucking time they stop with this PC shit, get those fuckers off the street.:thumbsup

xenophobic 03-18-2004 10:43 AM

Is that per capita? last time I checked some of the smaller states in the U.S were still larger than the U.K.
This isn't a U.K vs. U.S discussion, my original point was the fact you pointed out that the civil rights in the U.S were inadequate, my point is that they are in the U,K too, as I said this is a worldwide problem, not just the U.S!
If you construed my comments as an attack on the U.K, it was not so!
I believe we all should keep our eyes open, it's not just here, or there we're all losing our rights!

icedemon 03-18-2004 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid

I understand that they can't enforce it if it's done in the confines of their own house but that wasn't my question. What if Joe Gay is in a state where practicing homosexuality is illegal and decides to join a gay porn site? If by some chance the authorities find out, will he get arrested for it? Will the site be fined for providing illegal content? They can't bust you for smoking a joint in your house but if a cop comes to the door and catches you, then you'll get busted for it. It's a very similar concept. :2 cents:

There would have to be a law against having homsexual material. It would have to be laid out the same as the child porn laws I would think. Where it's not only against the law to do child porn, but to also have the material in your possession. How are the beastiality laws laid out.

I think (but not sure) that the states that now have laws against homosexuality, it's ok for them to have homosexual material, but it's just against the law for them to do it. So I would think that unless the law said it's not only against the law to commit sodomy, but also against the law to have that kinda material in your possession like child porn laws are setup, it won't affect gay sites.

Roger 03-18-2004 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
I believe we all should keep our eyes open, it's not just here, or there we're all losing our rights!
I completely agree with you on that point. Since 9/11 governments everywhere have been trying to use the tragedy as an excuse to strip us from our rights. Heck I couldn't even keep up with all the news on such subjects. We should all be united against this abuse of power.


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