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Ironhorse 03-15-2004 11:46 PM

The Iraq/911 connection
 
First of all please understand I am just telling it like I see it, following my logical perception of chain of events. Everyone is always debating how there was no connection and here is a brief chronology of events, hopefully you will see how these events are connected. I will try to keep it short and sweet:

1989 - Osama bin Laden travels to South Yemen and warns of imminent invasion of Kuwait by Saddam. http://www.worldhistory.com/binladen.htm

08.02.1990 - Saddam invades Kuwait http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...t_invasion.stm

1990 - Osama bin Laden objects to non-muslim troops presence in holy land and volunteers to lead an arab army against Saddam's occupation forces, in effect getting close to declare Jihad on Saddam - http://www.worldhistory.com/binladen.htm

08.08.1990 - First US troops arrive in Saudi Arabia http://www.history.navy.mil/wars/dstorm/dsaug.htm

1990-1991 - US forces based in Saudi defeat Iraqi army in operation Desert Storm - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/cron/

1991-1996 - Bin Laden's objections to US (non-muslim) troops based in Saudi Arabia escalate into several terrorist attacks including bombings in Yemen, Somalia resistance, USSCole attack and other attacks coordinated during his extensive travels to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan - http://www.worldhistory.com/binladen.htm

1996 - Bin Laden issues a 'Declaration of War' its intent to remove US army presence from the Arabian peninsula

1991-2003 US and British bombing campaings enforce 'No Fly Zone' in Iraq - http://www.historyguy.com/no-fly_zone_war.html

1998 - Operation Desert Fox - Allied campaing in Iraq intensifies with intent to degrade Saddam's ability to produce weapons of mass destruction - http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/desert_fox/

1998 - Bin Laden issues Fatwa urging Jihad against Americans. The conditions to cease Jihad are 1. Removal of US presence from Arabian peninsula 2. Cessation of No Fly Zone enforcement by US 3. Withdrawal of US support of the state of Israel - http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm

09.11.2001 - World Trade Center attacks, Pentagon and downed plane in Pennsylvania. Osama bin Laden is blamed - http://911digitalarchive.org/

10.2001 - Operation Enduring Freedom - US and coalition forces fight against terrorists in Afghanistan - http://www.army.mil/operations/oef/

2003 - US and Coalition of the willing invasion of Iraq

Whatever your perspective, there is a clear connection. I am a little sleepy so please feel free to correct any inaccuracies you may find. I am simply reporting a historical timeline, don't shoot the messenger please. I have tried to include links from different perspective to avoid any kind of bias. Discuss please, I'm going to bed :winkwink:

Ironhorse 03-15-2004 11:48 PM

Obviously there are other events I left out, I'm saving that for my thesis :Graucho Feel free to add stuff

Doctor Dre 03-15-2004 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
2003 - US and Coalition of the willing invasion of Iraq

Thoses were mostly the ones that would have lot big time finantially by loosing their good friendship with the states . Not the ones that were WILLING to invade a country so the us have more oil ...

sixxxth_sense 03-15-2004 11:50 PM

WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK!

raster 03-15-2004 11:51 PM

Thanks Dr. Ironhorse :)

bhutocracy 03-15-2004 11:53 PM

um.. no there really ISN'T a clear connection. Laden wants Jihad against Saddam, and then because he's calling for US troops to get out of Iraq he's suddenly in bed with them?? Mate, Bin Laden wants western troops out of ANY muslim area lol.

bhutocracy 03-15-2004 11:54 PM

sure they're both arabic leaders. And are bound to have had to deal with each other in some respect even if only to comment on each other's activites.. kinda like Rumsfield eh?

reynold 03-15-2004 11:57 PM

Thanks for the info.

Ironhorse 03-15-2004 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
um.. no there really ISN'T a clear connection. Laden wants Jihad against Saddam, and then because he's calling for US troops to get out of Iraq he's suddenly in bed with them?? Mate, Bin Laden wants western troops out of ANY muslim area lol.
I didn't say they were allied, I said there is a connection between the events.

Mr.Fiction 03-16-2004 12:01 AM

What about the long relationship between the Bin Laden family, Saddam, and the Bush family?

You seem to have left that out of your report. :1orglaugh

slackologist 03-16-2004 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse


I didn't say they were allied, I said there is a connection between the events.

sorry, where is the connection?

Ironhorse 03-16-2004 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by slackologist


sorry, where is the connection?

I can show you the historical facts, I'm not going to think for you, sorry..or pretend like I can..

slackologist 03-16-2004 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse


I can show you the historical facts, I'm not going to think for you, sorry..or pretend like I can..

ok.

erehwon 03-16-2004 12:54 AM

Where does the black helicopters and the part about the Grey aliens coming to earth to core the anus out of Bessie the Cow fit in all of this?

Ironhorse 03-16-2004 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by erehwon
Where does the black helicopters and the part about the Grey aliens coming to earth to core the anus out of Bessie the Cow fit in all of this?
That's all in there, but I had to exclude some parts obviously :winkwink:

Fletch XXX 03-16-2004 11:27 AM

we get more shit for supporting israel than a no fly zone and having troops on Arab soil.

Roger 03-16-2004 11:29 AM

yep I see a connection between events that happen in the ME, it's quite usual. It seems to me like Ben Laden got quite pissed off that he wasn't the one fighting Saddam and that US forces established bases in his country. And let's face it, Saudi Arabia has gone down the drain since GW1. The economy crumbled and the problems increased.

Lykos 03-16-2004 12:31 PM

Cool.....

hoe_vender 03-16-2004 12:50 PM

too long

baddog 03-16-2004 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by hoe_vender
too long
^too ignorant^

Ironhorse 03-16-2004 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Roger
yep I see a connection between events that happen in the ME, it's quite usual. It seems to me like Ben Laden got quite pissed off that he wasn't the one fighting Saddam and that US forces established bases in his country. And let's face it, Saudi Arabia has gone down the drain since GW1. The economy crumbled and the problems increased.
I think it's not a far-fetched idea to think that bin Laden had dreams of being a modern day Saladdin, rescuing not only the Iraqis from an oppressive secular regime, but through this enabling a theoretical move into Saudi Arabia where I am sure he would've been welcomed with open arms by the muslim masses and thus overthrow the current regime and hold a global monopoly over oil resources, establish the pan-arab state promised by the Brits and dissolve the state of Israel. Clearly the west did not favor this outcome and neither did the Saudi royals. I am sure the Israelis would respond to any of this with a healthy salvo of nuclear greetings. It is, unfortunately, not too late for this scenario to unfold..:2 cents:


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