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buddyjuf 03-14-2004 04:12 PM

a question for the entrepreneurs
 
This thing recently hit my head today

lets say you "launch" a company
you pay for all the $ needed to launch it, set it up, its running perfectly...
and one day you decide that instead of working in it as the owner, you want it to become an asset, so you make someone else run it 100% for you, so all you do is kinda forget about it and collect some money

how would you pay the person who runs your company for you? (let the company be big or small)

would you pay him a %? 25%? 33%? 50%? 75% 95%?
or would you pay him a flat fee? (depending on how big the company is)

thanx in advance for your input!

maxjohan 03-14-2004 04:13 PM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

polish_aristocrat 03-14-2004 04:14 PM

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buddyjuf 03-14-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
you really find it funny? :eek7

hova 03-14-2004 04:15 PM

I would pay a certain % because that makes makes people work harder. I think the % shouldn't be to high because you have put in the cash for the company and therefore take all the risks. But then again it depends on the situation, so I can't give you a good answer

Persius 03-14-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
,
WTF ?:helpme

buddyjuf 03-14-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hova
I would pay a certain % because that makes makes people work harder. I think the % shouldn't be to high because you have put in the cash for the company and therefore take all the risks. But then again it depends on the situation, so I can't give you a good answer
thanx for your answer! according to you, what would be a fair %?
thanx :)

$5 submissions 03-14-2004 04:17 PM

% system based on income milestones.


Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf
This thing recently hit my head today

lets say you "launch" a company
you pay for all the $ needed to launch it, set it up, its running perfectly...
and one day you decide that instead of working in it as the owner, you want it to become an asset, so you make someone else run it 100% for you, so all you do is kinda forget about it and collect some money

how would you pay the person who runs your company for you? (let the company be big or small)

would you pay him a %? 25%? 33%? 50%? 75% 95%?
or would you pay him a flat fee? (depending on how big the company is)

thanx in advance for your input!


buddyjuf 03-14-2004 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
% system based on income milestones.



thanx 5 dolla! I shoulda came and asked you on ICQ before even posting here

but it's interesting to see what most ppl think of a situationlike this :thumbsup

maxjohan 03-14-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf


you really find it funny? :eek7

You pay flat fee+ bonus that's how real business man works... like



.






Grogan.

:1orglaugh

liquidblue33 03-14-2004 04:19 PM

There are alot of different ways to do this. The most common is to
hire a GM (general manager). His or her job is essentially to
oversee your entire operation, so you don't have to. All other
employess will now report to him. Normally a base salary is given, just like any other position. However a handsome bonus structure is introduced, to motivate the GM. Set of certain sales and profit goals. If the GM can hit these marks they will earn more and more in bonuses. This is there true motivation. you don't really want to give them a % because they are not really an owner. Also this person has to be extremely trustworthy, but that is stating the obvious. Hope this helped

hova 03-14-2004 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf


thanx for your answer! according to you, what would be a fair %?
thanx :)

Depends of the company. But since you put in the cash and it allready runs perfectly, I think you should find somebody that does it for a max of 50%. But you should only pay him a % if he has the ability to increase the profit, if not just pay a flat fee.

I dont consider myself to be an entrepeneur but I have some dude running a company for me and he used to get a flat fee. But now I pay a % and all of a sudden the profit has increased 45%.

buddyjuf 03-14-2004 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidblue33
There are alot of different ways to do this. The most common is to
hire a GM (general manager). His or her job is essentially to
oversee your entire operation, so you don't have to. All other
employess will now report to him. Normally a base salary is given, just like any other position. However a handsome bonus structure is introduced, to motivate the GM. Set of certain sales and profit goals. If the GM can hit these marks they will earn more and more in bonuses. This is there true motivation. you don't really want to give them a % because they are not really an owner. Also this person has to be extremely trustworthy, but that is stating the obvious. Hope this helped

indeed it did!

so you think of it as a flat fee with bonus'
and others can see it as % as a real source of motivation

thanx alot! :thumbsup

buddyjuf 03-14-2004 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hova


Depends of the company. But since you put in the cash and it allready runs perfectly, I think you should find somebody that does it for a max of 50%. But you should only pay him a % if he has the ability to increase the profit, if not just pay a flat fee.

I dont consider myself to be an entrepeneur but I have some dude running a company for me and he used to get a flat fee. But now I pay a % and all of a sudden the profit has increased 45%.

there we go :thumbsup

congratz on the $ increase dude!

slackologist 03-14-2004 04:22 PM

flat fee with performance bonus %

cayne 03-14-2004 04:26 PM

dont think that this will work very well.

buddyjuf 03-14-2004 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cayne
dont think that this will work very well.
what wont work very well? making someone work for you?

buddyjuf 03-15-2004 02:51 AM

:thumbsup

reynold 03-15-2004 03:03 AM

Nice advise.

VideoJ 03-15-2004 04:10 AM

Salary + bonus based on hitting performance goals (sales, profits, employee retention, etc).

Jedimaster 03-15-2004 04:17 AM

hey bd

if the person believes in your business plan,,,give them a % basis.

Shoehorn! 03-15-2004 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf
This thing recently hit my head today

lets say you "launch" a company
you pay for all the $ needed to launch it, set it up, its running perfectly...
and one day you decide that instead of working in it as the owner, you want it to become an asset, so you make someone else run it 100% for you, so all you do is kinda forget about it and collect some money

how would you pay the person who runs your company for you? (let the company be big or small)

would you pay him a %? 25%? 33%? 50%? 75% 95%?
or would you pay him a flat fee? (depending on how big the company is)

thanx in advance for your input!

In my opinion there are a LOT of factors that would determine such a thing. For example, the size of the company, the industry, how many employees, revenue, etc.

buddyjuf 03-15-2004 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jedimaster
hey bd

if the person believes in your business plan,,,give them a % basis.

I like that way of thinking :thumbsup

to me, it seems as if the % will establish a much better connection between you and the person.

also it is a huge motivation to work as hard as possible, as much as possible, as smart as possible

wtfent 03-15-2004 01:59 PM

I am having a kid soon and when she starts getting old enough Im going to do the same and pay a very trusted business partner of mine 40% to completly run the company and from there I want to start out on my next big business venture which is going to be a real estate investments company.

Pun 03-15-2004 05:28 PM

I agree with the majority of the posts here in paying based on a percentage system.

-Pun

raster 03-15-2004 09:02 PM

I think it depends how bad you need him and how easy it would be to replace him if he ever quit.

If he's indispensible, partner status is best.

If he could be replaced, the best pay structure is salary plus incentives for hitting documented benchmarks.


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