Bill Clinton running for VP?
 

I saw a clip on the news last night saying that Clinton may run for Vice President.

Anyone else here this???


I would love to have Bill back in the white house.


- Brent

Hahaha that would be kinda funny. I cant see him doing it. At this point in his life, why would he wanna play second fiddle to anyone. Sure, he gets a couple interns, but other than that, why even bother.

Even ex-Presidents need a job bro.

I would LOVE to have him back in the white house! Budget surplus=good. :thumbsup

On CNN Clinton said he is done with politics. He said he will leave politics to his wife.

:(

i saw a thing on some website such as cnn or something that said HILLARY might run for vice president....sure they didn't just say "clinton"?

I don't even know why they bother bringing that up on CNN. It can't happen.

The constitution says a president can serve a maximum of 2 terms and 10 years in office.
So for instance if a president was assasinated early in their term and the VP served as president for 3 years, they'd only be able to run for re-election 1 time because another term would put them over the 10 year limit.

Clinton has already served 8 years so he can't fulfill the responsibilities of VP if something were to happen to Kerry early in his term.

He makes some good coin from his speaking career now. $9.2 million during his first year out of office :)

yeah once you're a somewhat good president you should be good

No Way-too big an ego and making too much money now, and not spending so much in legal fees...

Besides, that wouldn't put him back in the White House, it would put him at the Naval Observatory, in the VP's mansion!

he couldn't be second on a ticket because it would simply overshadow anyone else. So, even if it could happen it wouldn't happen.

He's too busy with Belinda's political career.

I really hope so . This man had common sence instead of the fucking prick that's president right now.

Not Bill Clinton his <i>wife</i>

As it was mentioned before you cannot serve over two terms in the white house. He can be a first man if Hillary becomes President but that is all.

Yes, that's been the buzz, and yes it's Bill, not Hill. The problem wouldn't be with Bill though, it would be with Kerry. I don't think he'd put him on the ticket because Clinton is larger than life and he knows it. I'd *love* to see him there, much more so than Edwards, but I don't think it will happen. Surely Kerry will whore him out for fundraising, though. He could bring in big bucks.

shit, for the first tiime i really feel like doing something...maybe we could redirect some of our exits to an "anythingbutbush" forum or something?

He is one of the best speakers in the world. :thumbsup

I'm pretty sure they can only serve 2 terms consecutively, they can run for re-election again after someone else fills the office, can anyone confirm this?

True, the sheep here that eat his bullshit like Jim Jones followers drinking kool-aid, is pretty solid proof.

From what I heard the Speaker of the House would become President in this kinda situation.

I think he would do it for the party to ensure they have the strength to get voted into office ahead of Bush.

Kerry vs Bush alone will be a very tight race, but I think with Clinton as VP they run away with it.


- Brent Axford

This is a good point Lenny. Its too bad this applies to the Vice President as well as i think the country would benifit greatly by having Clinton as the VP.


- Brent

I still think Bill should do TV!! He'd be great . . .

Has anyone heard him speak??? I wanted to catch him in Toronto, but tickets were nowhere to be found . . .

nice going, perhaps he does intern conferences for extra :Graucho

No, there's nothing solid that says that. He's prohibited from being elected as President by the 22nd Amendment, but if Kerry were to die he would not assume the roll through election, but succession, which is different.

The only debate is the 12th Amendment which prohibits someone who is constitutionally ineligible for the office of Pres., to run for VP, but many of the constitutional law gurus claim that doesn't apply here. It would be interesting to see it play out, but I don't think it will matter in the end because Kerry won't put him on the ticket.

If bill comes back that means more blow jobs

He spoke last year at UF for free, and was very good. The place was packed wall to wall.


- Brent

I found some interesting facts.


Until the law was changed in 1997, all former Presidents and their family were protected by the Secret Service until their death. The last President to have Secret Service protection for life is Bill Clinton. George Walker Bush and all following Presidents will be protected by the Secret Service for a maximum of 10 years after leaving office.


Never heard of that.



Amendment XXII (the Twenty-second Amendment) of the United States Constitution limits the President to two terms of office. It was ratified on February 27, 1951 and states:

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.


Section 2.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.


Background
This amendment, while limiting a President to two elected terms, theoretically does allow a President to serve up to ten years in office. If a Vice President takes over the office of President and serves less than two years as President, he may still be re-elected twice and serve eight more years in office. To date, the only Presidents impacted by the "10 year" provision of this amendment were Lyndon Johnson (who served from November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969, but could have served until 1973), and Gerald Ford (who served from August 9, 1974 to January 20, 1977, but could not have served beyond 1981.

This amendment was added after Franklin Delano Roosevelt became the first president to serve more than two terms; he ultimately was elected to office four times and died in his fourth term. Many felt this was in violation of a two term only ideal promoted by the first President, George Washington, and widely respected ever since. The amendment codified the previously held tradition.



it's actually the end of the 12th amendment:

"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. "


AMENDMENT XII

Passed by Congress December 9, 1803. Ratified July 27, 1804.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same State with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; - The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each State having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the States, and a majority of all the States shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, [before the fourth day of March next following,] then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such numbers be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two- thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

He spoke at my University and yes he is.

The information above shows in ever aspect why this cannot be done.

"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Clinton is not eligible for either according to this

Just like I said in my post ;-} The 22nd doesn't prohibit it, the only debate is the 12th and *that* is what is being speculated on. A lot of constitutional law experts have interpreted this to mean constitutionally ineligible according to age, citizenship, etc, not the two term limits. There's nothing to show that it cannot be done in "every aspect." There's no way to know unless it's brought to the table. As with many Amendments, there would have to be an interpretation.

I saw him in Winnipeg, and went to the dinner with him beforehand. It was pretty embarrassing, here in Winnipeg there were a bunch of empty seats. Apparently it's the first time he hasn't sold out the house since he started speaking. Everyone here is too cheap to shell out $500 a ticket, doesn't matter if you're Christ himself.

Beyond good moral character (however you wan tot judge that), I think a leader should be very well spoken. They're a figure head for a nation. Clinton had this down. Bush is a terrible speaker. I'd vote him out based on that alone . . .

But I'd like one day to meet Clinton. You're lucky to have heard him speak!

G.W. Bush

has double protection though, his daddy has it for life

:)

interesting

One of my old teachers won teacher of the year for our state and got to meet Clinton and see him speak. Said he was not only one of the most amazing speakers she'd ever heard but probably the most charismatic person she'd ever met....and she was a huge conservative.
People can insult him all they want but he's an intelligent guy, and light years ahead of bush in terms of speaking abiliity :p

So was hitler, stalin, marx, etc.

:Graucho

I dont know.. To me ineligible means ineligible.

But yea, I see where you are coming from with this

Interesting. I am sure there is some work around the ineligble thing, but just as fast as one gets found, Bush would ammend the consititution and change it so he doesnt lose.


- Brent

Kerry / Clinton - sounds ok. i doubt it though, might push away the swinging republicans, no pun intended.

Why?

FYI: It takes approx 7 years to amend the Constitution.

I haven't heard talk of Bill as a running mate only Hillary which is highly unlikely. It would screw up any plans she has of running in 2008. If Hillary was Kerry's running mate and Kerry was elected President, then it's highly unlikely that the VP (Hillary) would try to get on the ticket against the Incumbant (Kerry) in 2008..