What are the so called (elite) old timers afraid of?....
 

That they feel the need to try to come here and intimidate people, or belittle them, or attempt to get in to their phsyce to get people to have doubts...

The misinformation campaigns, the name calling...

I mean for real, I like to play on GFY as much as the next guy as that is the personality of this board... but feeble malicious attempts by these so called old time big players are just hillarious, do they fool anybody for real?


Everybody on any board, or in adult at all for that matter, knows that Hustler, and Vivid are two of the strongest (if not the strongest) players in the game... and they NEVER resort to any of that bullshit... they handle themselves with class at all times, and in fact I see where the people from those companies that post here actually try to help people, or give correct info pertaining to the indusrty at every opportunity that they get to do so... (I wish there were more serious business people like those companies have):2 cents: but yet to read some people like 12 dicks for example or Bradshaw posts they will tell you that there is no room left that they control the money and they are the shit .... the only shit they are to me is BULLSHIT!

anybody have any thoughts on this?

I agree wholeheartedly.:2 cents:

All I can contribute is "Who are you talking about specifically?" :)

sharks smell blood in the water

it's for so called marketing and exposure

Porn is not going anywhere

ashhahahahaha is in the hospital..he is about to croak.. Bush is on his way out.. even if brings Osama out of his little prison and says ..look we caught him... people are smart enough now to see right through his bullshit... the Democrats are coming on strong...even the Governator "Arnold" says in his own words...If gay marriage becomes legal, then I am all for it" This is not the Repulican way of thinking...anyway.. Next year ..Porn will be bigger than ever..

SO PLAY ON !!!!

:thumbsup

I am afraid of being bored after retirement...:2 cents:

Quit reading any thread by sleazy and this feeling will go away.

joesho - you make a very good point

a real classy ol timer is not someone who comes on here and belittles others or walks around with their dick in the air that they are king. Those were the punks from the past who want recognition and are attention whores.

You want to talk to the real ol timers, the ones with all the cash and power?? then go sit in the back of the strip club where few sit, or the small bar out of the way from the public eye - these are the ones who make deals and watch the games younger players do and smile knowing that in a few years - these players will be gone - bankrupt - and the ol timers, still - will be not drawing attention to themselves.

They know their dick size - no need to rub it in everyones face and disgust us all.

there afraid of little girls like me comming around and taking there bussiness :)

i guess if i were them, id be shitting bricks too !!!!

as long as I'm not the chum ees coo ;)

Increased competition is something everyone fears. Some will deal with it by trying to intimidate possible new entrants and some others will deal with it by making sure they outperform the new entrants. Big mouth or good skills, very few have both.

preach on my brotha ... preach on!

speak it brother

it happens in everything though, everything that comes in fades out, it's like a changing of the guard in a sense, best way to fight it is by trying to strong-arm the new companies making a name for themselves because they know they're losing their grasp on what little control they thought they initially had.

out with the old, in with the new, it's the way of the world, get out of the way or get stepped on :2 cents:

Joe - Just as in any other walk of life, some people simply aren't capable of handling themselves with class and maturity. Ignore em' :thumbsup

what a fucking little cry baby. you're the one trying to belittle 12clicks by attempting to post pictures of dicks. now since it backfired on you, you're crying about "old timers" and trying to play it off like you're some innocent little webmaster trying to make a living.

ouch. why does the truth always end up hurting shmo?:1orglaugh

as you can plainly see, my case and point need no other exclamation point than 12 dicks himself....


when has he ever offered anyone anything but a hard time....

I try to ask a simple question on how to post a pic in typical GFY style... agreed I poked 12clicks in the eye, but he has constantly violated what I was describing above, and I am not one to just sit back and let people feel they can belittle people... so I asked my question and got it answered, I as well got some good practice at uploading pics. of course the lesson to be learned here , is this no matter what the so called elite may say... there is and will always be an ever evolving cycle of people in the business....

what will you do, long after 12clicks and his cronies cycle is over, and they are replaced by you in that seat? will you be like longtime stallwarts such as Hustler, and Vivid and show leadership in the industry, along with strong business saavy, will you help people not try to shit on them? or will the money get to you as it has done 12clicks once he escaped living in his rented pinto, he has decided to show the world what a superstar he is in his own mind.

do you ask for help? do you try to learn in order to better yourself? or do you just wait and steal the other guys hard work, and ideas?

I have a feeling that most GFY's like the sence of accomplishment they feel after learning something new that day, :2 cents:

nope no crying here, I am just pointing out a fact....

I know you and 12clicks do not like that word very much and try to distrort the meaning as much as possible in order to carry out some type of misinformation campaign, However just as the wise people see the true GW bush... we are not all blind sheep, as you try to portait us as my friend...:)

Fatshaw is history.

hey congrats you learned how to add the ref code in your Sig :thumbsup

See your learning after 2,000 posts

I'm a long-time webmaster but not 'elite' by any means.

The new kids bother me because theres a lot of SHADY fuckin CHEATERS in the new crowd, that make business harder for the legit webmasters.

If you're new, and legit, welcome to the industry.

you're an idiot.

fuck you your an asshole!

I believe you are of the 12clicks ilk, only money motivated, very greedy, and obviously afraid to really help anyone...

plus you think that a few bucks makes you an elite...hahaha you are just one of the crowd man, you just got lucky, no way you make it if you had to come in the game during todays environment... and now that spam is gone, and there is a reshuffling of the way traffic is handled you will either evolve, or perish... depends on your attitude, cause nobody new gives a fuck what you did before... and the way of the TGP is seeming to lose its luster, in fact one of the biggest complaints we hear now days, are "there is too much free porn out there on the TGp's"

Another clever and strong comeback.

I predict that blood will be shed in this thread.

I hope you are taking notes so you may learn something today....ooohh thats right you already know everything I forgot....sorry my bad...

my kitty's breath smells like cat food

its my cats breath smells like cat food, get the dam line right. :321GFY

yea Sleazy was right, you are an idiot.

saying he 'got lucky' is way off base unless you know the man or what he's done to get where he's at.

it appears you'll be where you are at today with all your bitching and trashing all of the big name guys here. your on your way to making a lot of friends it looks like.

Just do your business.
Thats all the "Elite Old Timers" as you say are doin.

Afraid wouldnt be the word to describe there "Supposed" fearful silence.

Its threads like this that maybe the few old timer's that read boards get a huge laugh out of.
The laughing is so hard they actually pass out from it...

Its true...

this comment stuck out like a sore thumb . . . I really don't know anyone that has been a success that was just lucky . . . unless they won the lottery or something . . . . . just my :2 cents:

you know what - i was wrong.

you're a complete and total fucking idiot

already shed - cuz thar be sharks in dis here thread, matey! AAAARRRRRRR

:thumbsup
funny - the harder i work the luckier I get.

well obviously sleazy has some skills, the lucky part was the timing....

tomato tomatoe

how the fuck can you say "lucky part was timing"

why wasn't it hard work, getting in good with people in the biz, etc.

you are such as fucking crybaby that will most likely be stuck where you are at now and never get over the hump to where the "elite" as you call them are at the present time.

actaully when I entered the biz people said if you didn't have 100K a day TGP already you wouldn't make it. same as they do now. ;P

the line in the sand has been drawn

yeah, I know how that is

I don't know!!

whatever dude, see the thing I kow, is I am not depending on anyone anyway, plus in case you have not noticed the "big guys" are not where they are today by being afraid to butt heads get in the real world pal, life is a battle, and no one is gonna give you anything... ask your girlfriend 12clicks, did anyone give him anything, no he had to take it to become what he is financially...(he used scams, when I prefer win wins ) however, noone just said to him, heor any other successful person in any other business for that matter, " hey come here man, let me walk you down the road to success....

the person that is gonna be the next 12clicks, or the next sleazydream, may not even be in adult yet, but I know everyyone else is just stupid right? no way they can figure the game out.... remember if the old school will not allow you in, then build another school simple really....

i resent you saying i'm invloved in scams. i'd like some evidence of that please?

I've been hearing this for years and years.

I never said you were involved in scams, and actually I do not believe so, I said you were lucky with timing, and an asshole for calling me an idiot.....

the scam reference was 12clicks ( you know the history as well as anyone else does)

i'm so glad you know so well how 12Clicks, Sleazy, etc made it to where they are now.

since you can tell me exactly how they made it without knowing them or the real truth on their story, can you look into your crystal ball and give me the winning lottery ticket numbers tonight.

Being called an idiot is a sort of badge...

Wear it with pride.

asshole or not - you ARE an idiot - you included me in a sentence that was refering to scams.


obviously you don't want to go forward in this biz - go back to class dumbfuck.

Yeah so far I have earned my merit badge for the idiot category from Serge, Bradshaw, 12clicks, and now sleazydream..

so far not hurt by the list yet, just looks like a history lesson to me...