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Jimbo#1 03-09-2004 11:46 AM

California Lawmakers Propose Voting Age of 14
 
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (March 8) - A proposed amendment to California's constitution would give 16-year-olds a half-vote and 14-year-olds a quarter-vote in state elections.

State Sen. John Vasconcellos, among four lawmakers to propose the idea on Monday, said the Internet, cellular phones, multichannel television and a diverse society makes today's teens better informed than their predecessors.

The idea requires two-thirds approval by the Legislature to appear on the November ballot.

"When we gave the vote to those who didn't own property, then to women, then to persons of all colors, we added to the richness of our democratic dialogue and our own nation's integrity and its model for the world," Vasconcellos said, calling it time to further extend the vote.

A Republican colleague said it was "the nuttiest idea I've ever heard."

Damn, what is your opinion???:warning

zentz 03-09-2004 11:54 AM

lol. no comment.. world is going nut

Fletch XXX 03-09-2004 11:55 AM

politicians are evil. all they see is easy targets, how easy is to pull shit over on teens? cig companies been doing it for decades... all the see are more votes that they can sway.

kids today can barely get off their ass and work, let alone give a fuck about the state of california.

the teen girls here are too busy making babies, no time to give a fuck.

give the mexicans license, and keep our groceries tax free!!

SykkBoy 03-09-2004 12:18 PM

geez, I can just see all the fucking write-in votes for Justin Timberlake...

Veterans Day 03-09-2004 12:19 PM

california, the shit hole capital of the world

BradM 03-09-2004 12:20 PM

Okay... maybe 17 or something. But 14-16 year olds? WTF... this is so wrong. These kids have no idea what the hell the world is about how can they POSSIBLY vote??

djhits 03-09-2004 12:20 PM

thats just plain crazy,:helpme

turbomax 03-09-2004 12:27 PM

what a joke

benc 03-09-2004 12:28 PM

If anything it should be 21. Why should some 18 year old kid that never paid any real taxes or have any life experience be voting.

CamChicks 03-09-2004 12:31 PM

For too long, teens have been pawns for politicians.
They can gaurantee votes from older americans by violating the rights of younger americans.

The blind senile elderly support taking drivers licenses away from teenagers, but would never give up their own despite statistics showing their age group to be far more dangerous.

Citys impose curfews where you can be taken to jail for being out past evening, depite doing nothing criminal. I can recall multiple occasions from HS where kids would be arrested literally outside their own houses.. cops wouldn't even go up to the door to notify the parents.

Yeah, some kids are bad. Some are thieves and vandals or worse. But you can't pre-emptively punish everybody for the actions of a few. Imagine if they used the same logic for racial minorities, to prevent crime; or for women, for "their own safety".

Why do kids shoot up schools? Because they are systematically disrespected and have no effective way of expresing their anger. I'd rather they use ballots than bullets.

On some issues, like education, teens are the best informed. They're not making judgements based on experiences 20 years ago; they're current. They know better than anyone what's wrong in schools today.

lyno 03-09-2004 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by benc
If anything it should be 21. Why should some 18 year old kid that never paid any real taxes or have any life experience be voting.
If a 17 year old (or younger) is old enough to be a soldier...
Looks like the USA loves child soldiers, as long as they see no nude tits. :mad:

kimzar 03-09-2004 12:34 PM

too young, probably the ammendment will not pass

hoe_vender 03-09-2004 12:37 PM

Like a 14 year old know what the fuck is going on

Kimmykim 03-09-2004 12:39 PM

California is a state out of control, that is for sure. The more days I live here the more I realize it...

JD 03-09-2004 12:46 PM

I don't think it would even matter. Like the little fuckers would vote anyway

Fletch XXX 03-09-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
California is a state out of control, that is for sure. The more days I live here the more I realize it...
you moved here?

whereabouts?

i have lived here for years... and from what I have read, its been out of control for decades.

thats how California is.

remember the sixties?

Fletch XXX 03-09-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
I don't think it would even matter. Like the little fuckers would vote anyway
i actively recruit younger americans to vote.

http://www.punkvoter.com/home/home.php

its the least I can do.

as well as show up and vote myself.

twistyneck 03-09-2004 02:21 PM

If they can be put on trial as adults, they should be allowed to vote.

Fletch XXX 03-09-2004 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
If they can be put on trial as adults, they should be allowed to vote.
id love to see when the younger kids start voting on marijuana laws here in cali.

:glugglug

WoDaT 03-09-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


id love to see when the younger kids start voting on marijuana laws here in cali.

:glugglug

It's actually good that Marijuana is illegal because if it is legalized, you can betcha Big Brother will find a way to TAX the SHIZNIT out of it. This causes regular Ganja smokers to quit due to the EXTREME price of making a regulated consumer purchase of Weed.


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