Content & the adult webmaster: Why does it matter what *you* like?
 

Honestly, who gives a shit what *you* like? Someone posts a pic of new content and you feel the need to say "she needs a tan" "she needs bigger tits" "she needs a diet"........ who died and made YOU the expert? Trust me, you're not.


And who gives a shit about what *you* like anyway? Listen up...... no really, shaddap for a change and listen up......... YOU are only one person, with ONE opinion. Your surfers on the other hand, number in the hundreds, or the thousands, or in some cases the hundreds of thousands. If you are truly trying to sell memberships to your surfers, then shouldn't you be putting up content that your sufers want instead of the shit that *you* want?

Think about it.




Niches like small natural boobs, average-looking amateurs, and pretty-yet-overweight girls are very lucrative niches in case some of you morons didn't know. Why not pull your head out of your ass, quit playing "the expert" on the content threads like you only date supermodels or something, and go make some fucking money for a change?

CD: You're too tanned and need a diet.

Thanks.

I'm no where near tanned,




and I need a diet.










Thanks. :D

I agree.. many people like the plain jane amateurs compared to the babes and vice versa..personally I like pimples on a big fat ass..but thats just me

I like your small natural boobs...

:winkwink:

i'm flattered. i always thought my pimples turned you off:Graucho

Thanks, I wear the bro.



Sometimes the manzier.










But I laugh every time I see fuckers passing themselves off as judges for content, when by their own retarded negative comments they obviously know fuck all about what sells. As you can probably imagine, I sit here laughing a helluvalot.

Very true... and, while some pics posted may not be "everymans fantasy", there are a lot of potential customers with tastes that differ from the "norm", who would pay for some of the girls that are slammed here.

Your perky manboobs makes up for it

I agree. You hit the nail on the head.

Now, feel free to look at these titties:

http://www.donovanphillips.com/images/gfy/Breezy01.jpg

http://www.donovanphillips.com/images/gfy/Breezy02.jpg

:Graucho

There are men out there who would gladly slobber and spray cock snot all over them funbags.



I am probably one of them.

Hit it alright.

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Simple answer half of the time photographers post bad pics (i.e. bad lighting, bad exposure and bad angles) and think their work doesn?t sink and most people have opinions.

Most of the time model is very sellable but photographer is more concerned about what the forum thinks or whatever :)

the talent is being able to look at any model and sell her.

Granted, there is some photography going on out there that could look a lot better with a few basic techniques. I agree with you. But even the extremely amateur photos have value as far as niche markets go.

For example: You would agree that most papparazzi carry fairly expensive camera equipment with high-powered zoom len's and built-in filters etc...... yet why are 99% of celeb photos of such shitty quality?? There must be a demand somewhere for it, and the amateur and voyeur market is no different.... all of them come with real demand.


It is the fucking idiots that sit there and criticize a model as if their own shit doesn't stink that gets me laughing.... "she's too this" or "she needs more that" etc...... who do these fools think they are? Someone needs to tell them that it's not about what THEY like, it is about what the millions of surfers out there like. Obviously there is a big difference in what some of these retards like and what the surfers will pay for. As webmasters we should be thinking outside of our own micro craniums a bit more than we do.

<img SRC="http://members.shaw.ca/billy1-99/pics/cat2.jpg">

I mean 'WOman".

nice pussy

I could almost kiss you.


Almost.

I thought briefly of you when I wrote all that.






































And I had a boner.

The threads where everyone gives their opinion are actually a perfect example of how surfers react. Ask if a chick is hot and you get everything from "she is a perfect babe' to "I wouldn't touch her". Some will think she has a perfect smile and some will think her mouth is too big.

So sometimes it really pays to pick content by the quality of the photography and not exactly how much the girl appeals to you. I can't tell you how many times I have made a gallery of a girl who I find marginal and not very appealing and she ended up being one of the ones that made the most sales.

Surfers are diverse and the content should be also.

Bingo
Bingo
Bingo





Somebody give this man a shirt.

dont want to hear any lip here?
dont post any pics

it's a simple concept

So is the fact that guys like me will tell those doing the lipping that they are fucking morons.

CDSmith, I agree with you. However, given the name of this forum and no time element in posting a pic, why wouldn?t a photographer take enough time to display the model looking their best in a post ?would you hit it.?

Everyday I see really cute girls on this forum getting made fun of. Most of the time it is because the photographer doesn?t understand the audience here or knows how to market the model.

JMO :)

I disagree somewhat. I think the webmaster should be 'into' what he or she is marketing. It gives them an edge that way, as they know better how to push their product, and what their members will want and/or expect.

For example, I've seen a stocking fetish website run by someone who is not 'into' stockings at all. Compared to a site run by a real stocking lover, it is jumbled and off-topic in many areas, and as aresult doesn't really appeal to its target audience.

That said, I agree about the closed minded folks here posting 'ick too many freckles' or "barf, her boobs are too small'.

That said, this is GFY. :Graucho

to a point yes, but we also have to look at it all day long so it helps if we find it easy on the eyes

Then again, maybe I mis-read the question.

AHHHH! Don't make me kill another thread! Come on people! SOMEBODY post! Please? :helpme

Agreed 100%.

If it's just down to the amount of content on the site then the site has to be enormous to compete and inside the site it has to be organised.

Our likes and desires run in a stream with in a niche, paysites should cater for that single stream with different photographers interpretations. For instance a teen paysite with Aarons, Mutts and our content would be work because of the similarity between our interpretation of the teen niche.

So if you do not base the sites content on "what turns you on" what do you base it on? Without a lot of knowledge on a niche/style, the risk is run of a site trying to appeal to all and ending up appealing to no one. There are millions of surfers out there looking for porn, going for 0.5% is the safer bet.

You are speaking from the perspective of the paysite owner. I am speaking from the perspective of the free site owner who is trying to sell memberships to various paysites. THAT is the difference. Of course a paysite owner needs to be in touch with what his particulaar members want. Notice I said "surfers" in my post, not members. Members have already paid, they are proven and have already made their tastes known. Surfers on the other hand are still looking, it is best to put aside what *you* prefer and offer up content that appeals to the tastes of others.

CD Smith - you do know that most people are fucking clueless here, right?

You ask for a certain kind of content, some shit for brains links to a sponsor program with similar content (with a ref code, of course) I could give more examples, but I know you are smart enough to get my point.

This place is loaded with opinions - if you cant handle it, dont post the pics - that's all.

But I think it is way more fun to slam each other, make the thread 5-10 pages long, and build up truly staggering doses of animosity. Anyway, how fucking boring would it be if all the replies were shit like "oh that is great" " what a good looking model" "I bet she was a joy to work with"

See above reply. My mistake, I should have clarified what my focus was a bit better. Of course a pay site owner has to keep true to their chosen niche if they run a niche site..... that's a given. But even within that niche there is usually room for diversity and diverse content and models. Take the tranny niche for example..... Inside that niche there is still amateur content and professional "high-gloss" content. There are very convincing high-end trannies and there are very gross-looking amatuer lady-boys.

Webmasters simply need to stop thinking only about what *they* like, stop tossing out the shitty negative comments and the infantile puke smilies on content threads and start thinking about what the fucking surfers want. That is the entire point here.

Yes.



Thus the need for this thread. Thanks.

Good point, CDSmith. Yes, if you are trying to catch all types of fishes, you need to have all types of bait in your web. But still, the 'baits' should be organized enough to pull in each fish on its own strength, and not just jumbled up, hoping something will work.

The hero of Luke Rhinehart's "The Dice Man" made his decisions by rolling a dice. But most of us, for better or worse, are guided by our own tastes and opinions.

Of course you aren't wrong: there are likely millions of surfers who get an instant hard-on from content that does nothing for me. But how does that knowledge help me?

If I go to the majority of content providers and buy the latest sets or choose some at random, what kind of site am I likely to put together? It would be one which generates flickers of interest in lots of visitors, but probably not generate a strong enough interest in any to persuade them to buy.

I have two choices: go with my personal taste or try to get inside someone else's head and look at the content through their eyes. Either way I'm still making judgements with which many surfers won't agree.

The best I can do is select content I believe is right for a decent percentage and try to send the rest to something more likely to suit them. And precisely because, as you say, there are so many different people out there, even if my choices seemed totally off the wall to many, I could still make money.

As to commenting on content threads: shouldn't anyone who posts on a board, regardless of subject, expect knocks as well as praise? And if your reasoning is valid for negative comments, doesn't the same reason make positive comments valueless too?

Well, that goes without saying really, and gets us into the area of webmaster ability and promotional skills. The focus here is really the piss-poor attitudes of some, and the way they criticize models as if their personal tastes should carry some sort of god-given weight over the tastes of thousands of surfers.


It's insane.


Some of these guys come off like the only women worthy of their divine attention are flawless supermodels, when in fact many of them are pimple-faced teens and pre-teens with pasty glow-in-the-dark skin sitting in mommy's basement pretending they are qualified to comment on the worth of a model.

To me, a positive comment or criticism that is contructive goes a lot farther than a brainless dumbass comment or a puke smiley, especially if that constructive criticism comes from someone who has some experience and first-hand knowledge of the content/modeling/photography business.


positive is always better than negative. Always.

Yep, I think I'm starting to like you, CD. So no more barfy faces at my pictures, ok? :Graucho

My god woman.... if you only knew how gorgeous I find you.


You would move to Winnipeg. Trust me.

Aww thanks. :) My family is from Winterpeg, you know. I have the prairies in my blood. Somewhere.

Sorry I was thinking along the wrong lines.

For freesite owners I suppose a good mix is preferable, so long as it's not too diverse. For the webmaster driving traffic to a site, I would imagine so long as the TGP page content bears some resemblance to where the surfer is pushed it would work better.

Though within a niche like Trannies with a limited supply of content available I would think most things work.

Positive is nicer surely, but better? I'm all for the ego boost of having people approve of what I do, but the criticisms are far more useful.

Going back to your original point, one effect of making a judgement is that, realize it or not, you are also choosing your market. And more of us are likely to be selling to surfers who could be described as "brainless dumbasses" than to people who understand the content business.

To that extent and bearing in mind the character of this board, it isn't totally impossible that those irritating smilies are a more telling reaction than the analysis of fellow professionals :)

Well said. And on that note . . . . . .

http://tofushoes.com/gallery/tabi2/images/537_0133.jpg :Graucho

What I am saying people is this:

The phrase "GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT"

doesn't mean give the people what *you* want.

It means put aside your own bias narrow preferences and give them a variety of choices besides your typical airbrushed poster-blonde fake titted bimbetty. It means quit being such an insulting dipshit when viewing the models presented, because there is a viable market for most of them if not all.

Know it.

Learn it.

Live it.




Or continue on being a fuckshnarf.

This is one of the key afflictions most self-appointed critics have..... the inability to realize that criticism, if delivered properly and from a place of intelligence, can be constructive <i> even though it is in fact criticism</i>.

It's true.


And there are posts on this very board that prove me right. Such criticism and positiveness are always more well-received than blatant mindless insults. Always. It's not a tough concept is it?


I realize this thread won't change a damn thing..... I am merely stating what I know to be right and true, nothing more. There is really nothing to take up opposition over either, because the botton line is that I am right on target. No one will ever convince me that insulting models is in any way beneficial to anyone or anything in this business.

fuckshnarf.


hahhahahahahhah

I love it!!Wonderful stuff! I can sleep happy now :)

I've got plumper galleries up on many free sites. Not into it personally, but up they go just the same. Lots of chubby chasers out there and that's afine bya me. :thumbsup