12 clicks is afraid to debate me!!
 

Here regarding the political quagmyer that the current state of the united states has put the world in.... he only wants to debate me if he is able to have HIS finger on the moderator button, and have his gang of right wingers make up the landscape of the constiuentcy that joins into the debate.. (a famous right wing tactic , stacking the deck in your favor)


My position is this, Republicans, our fearless puppet leader, and the right wing, have set our country back 50 yrs with the totalitarianism that exsists in our society today.. the constitution (that 12 clicks claims to believe in as a true patriot) is being ripped to shreds right in front of our faces by lies, and deciet created by the right wing, (in their words to protect us of course)

we debated this topic for sometime, and he was still unable to accept the truth (at least publicaly) so I told him I would debate him on the subject anytime... he agreed and with that famous false keyboard bravado said he would debate me anytime anywhere, (as to imply I was not up to his standards as a foe)

well I have been waiting for him to show up and answear the challenge issued to him.... he thus far has refused...

so if you know 12clicks be sure to let him know that fear should not govern his life... just as the common man will not let the fear tactic the right wing puts out there to control ours...

come on 12 clicks there is a whole beautiful world out there to enjoy no reason to hide under your bed from the big bad terror threats every holiday... come out and enjoy your life, add a little passion back in to your feelings, anxiety and fear will only lead to the downfall of our great country..is that what you continue to want to represent?

Has it ever occured to you that he might have better things to do with his time?

No! do you?

GO JOE GO !!:thumbsup

- why sociallism dosent work -


Leftists ideal is a fantastic vision where all men live together in peace and harmony. Everyone would be equal. Everyone has the same wealth. Everyone gets the same food and house.

But then a person that isnt a sheep starts thinking. "Why should that lazy mother fucker get the same food I do, when I work twice as hard. Or how bout "That guy is a fucking idiot, why should he have a house as nice as mine".

You see, sociallism goes against human nature. It is our nature to compete, to evolve, to ensure the advancement of the human race in future generations, to pass the strongest genes on to the next generation.






the end

Maybe if you're completely uneducated you'd think someone on the left felt this way. Being a liberal has nothing to do with being against living in a capitalist society.

Joe you should probably fix that reply :)

LOL

Leftists ideal is a fantastic vision where all men live together in peace and harmony. Everyone would be equal. Everyone has the same wealth. Everyone gets the same food and house.

But then a person that isnt a sheep starts thinking. "Why should that lazy mother fucker get the same food I do, when I work twice as hard. Or how bout "That guy is a fucking idiot, why should he have a house as nice as mine".

You see, sociallism goes against human nature. It is our nature to compete, to evolve, to ensure the advancement of the human race in future generations, to pass the strongest genes on to the next generation.

THE ABOVE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY ROOSTER, MY RESPONSE IS AS FOLLOWS:

I hate to be the bearer of the truth to you , however that is not the vision of the left wing....

all the left wing asks for is not to be given the keys to success, rather they ask for a level playing field do you honestly think that GW has what he has today due to his hard work?

capitolism is not born from special interest groups, they came after with that tactic far before our constitution (wich claims all men were created equal BTW) our constitution says nothing about : hmm lets let only the rich and priviledged from a blueblood family have all the best education, opportunity, and yes here it comes HANDOUTS....

if you truley knew what you were saying, you would realize that Most of the welfare given out these days is going to the people who do not need it.... (they cut all the social programs in order to save grant monies for building new big business... you really should read a little on grants and handouts since you like to speak on them...

hah I figured it out dumbass I just don't quote your saying what is up with rooster fucking with the board somebody should tell him that is a no no

come on AMP you are still awake aren't you?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=241696

this won't take long halfwit.
I hope you didn't tell TCG that this would get you a lot of views.:1orglaugh

Your sure 12clicks you arent Lawrence Connor??

You really do appear to be a dickhead

http://www.intellisoft.com/~greg/images/confused.jpg

I'm sure I'm not lawrence connor but I'm still not sure who you are.:thumbsup

:1orglaugh

do you even own a website?? I have been in the industry for 9 years now.... if you got your head out of your ass maybe then you would recognize and show some respect to others in this industry.

That is why you are like lawrence connor.. you simply have no respect for anyone or from anyone and a very large ego - and from what I see - no website or adult company you work with - how are you different than lawrence connor

halfwit, go find the person who writes you your biggest check and ask him who I am.:1orglaugh

I have no respect for asshats like yourself who make intelligent posts like:

not respecting the children in this industry has never done my business any harm and won';t now either.

:1orglaugh

what is with all this name calling, I thought you were above all that? you still have not adressed the issues here (another right wing manouver, you are gonna be easy to beat if you are this predictable)


Hand outs are far more given in dollar amounts to the rich than to the poor.... (I will start you out easy how is that? can we get back to the debate now and stop the kindrgarden lesson?)

Um, dude, 12clicks is a dickhead but he's not exactly a nobody.

I already did ask.. and they havent heard of you either.. and have asked most owners of major industry companies and they dont know if you worked in it but all say the same thing.. you are an asshole. I prefer to make my own judgement call but you are showing yourself to be that way.

so you still have prove to others who you really are.. since no one I talk to on the boards or industry know who you are only that in your mind.. you think your hot shit.

Personally I dont care,, and dont waste my time with people like you - so this will be the only time I will ever answer you back... good luck and like Lawrence I do hope you find work in the industry

I prefer to add you as the only person on my ignore list.. I suggest that you do the same and put me on yours

Debating people who right off the bat show they've completely eliminated the possibility that they might actually be wrong is waste of brain cells.

There is no quagmire. (Note the correct spelling)
It's all in your head, right where it's supposed to be.

ahahahahahaha. ok child.:thumbsup

nope 12 clicks is a very smart man, that is why I wonder how come he is so afraid to enter the real debate, instead of acting like a child (then calling everyone else that does it a name, more hypocrise from the right I suppose)

one could ponder that he is strategizing with his team to create a lie, oopsie bush did that for you already hah


come on 12 clicks be a man...

fight with fact not rhetoric... you are better than that remeber... or has old age made you forget... is that what happens to the right wing they say something then forget? is that why it is so confusing and keeps changing all the time?

I prefer to add you as the only person on my ignore list.. I suggest that you do the same and put me on yours - tired of dealing with small minded children who need attention such as yourself

http://pix.segfault.cz/gfy/attention.jpg

lying gets you nowhere.
go to fucking google and type in 12clicks.
google heard of him.

dude, you're wrong! he said "since no one he talked to on the boards or industry know who I am"
and after all, he *is* "the legacy":1orglaugh

I think you better keep your ignore list open then. in 2 minutes 2 people have told you you're wrong. better add them too.:1orglaugh

oh, look. joey's here.
see joey, this is why it should happen elsewhere

Don't give a fuck! :D

stick to the issue here man... the only one I see deviating from the issues is YOU 12 clicks I will not accept the bait... you stated to me you wanted to leave the other comments out of our debate and yet you still have not adressed me, or the facts yet you continue to respond to childish enticements.... who is the fool ? and why not stay focused as you like to put it? (did somebody bounce you off your game? or is that always been your game)

son, I'm not name calling. I'm identifying what you are. and that, my friend, is addressing the issue. :1orglaugh

describe the handout you're talking about. speak in specifics.

I am an orater, not an author... why do you think lawyers have secretaries.... but I damn sure know how to spell quagmyer.... haha

Ah... this is the perfect opportunity to mention that we're running a political debate at Cybernet Expo on the first day of seminars...

http://www.cybernetexpo.com/seminars.html

THURSDAY, JUNE 10
Political Discussion Group -- 2:45 p.m. - 3:45 p.m.

At present I'm looking to fill one or two spots with a moderate conservative and if one exists in this industry... a hard core conservative to participate in a crossfire discussion. So if you plan on attending the show, or better yet, sponsoring in some way... hit me up at jay at ynotmasters dot com for consideration. That is, if you are willing to be in a physical spotlight and not just a virtual one.

Carry on....

i think Joesho right..
go Joesho :D
( great person... btw )
:winkwink:

ANARCHY:BangBang:

look mr. freeze, there are many issues in this thread from many people (your fault)

but don't worry, the lot of you can be handled while I read the paper and chat on icq.:1orglaugh

quote: son, I'm not name calling. I'm identifying what you are. and that, my friend, is addressing the issue.



did that seem funny to you? did you look in the mirror and laugh really hard it must suck to be a legend in your own mind eh?



quote:describe the handout you're talking about. speak in specifics.



hmm lets start with corporate welfare how about that one since you guys on the right like to complain that the left (while trying to increase jobs, and build better roads, and schools) continue to be the bad apple of our deficite by handing out all the money to us poor slobs... when of course the facts say otherwise, as record cuts are taking place in all these fields .... one word Halliburton....

stick to the issues. stop dodging my question. what are you, afraid???:1orglaugh

I am just curious was halfwit the word you used to describe what I am, or was that a name calling? could you please elaborate?

just for the record, so everyone (well, me anyway) knows where everyone (you) stands..

WHICH specific parts of the constitution are being ripped up right in front of our faces?

there you go 12 clicks come out and live in the real world once you might learn something other than from the fox news channel.... great idea LAJ

I'm going to lunch.
see you in an hour or so.

we can start with the fourth amendment if you would like, or should I start with the first amendmendment to keep it at a slow pace for you, I would not want to jump ahead of the pack and have you resort to calling me a name or something.... and judging by your sig, you only feel the other amendments after the first ten are just liberal hogwash anyways.... man why did they have to give those damn women the right to vote anyway huh, and I bet segregation would help our economy too huh?:1orglaugh

enjoy your lunch, I will be at the gym (you know I need it) so you will have a little time to regroup I know I shouldn't of shanghied you like this, but unlike some of my democratic bretheren, I feel it is not necassary to know the questions before the debate....


I hope when you come back you bring your friend the truth hurts too, but please will you guys read a chapter on civics first? all the name calling hurts my feelings, I am a sensitive guy, us liberals are made of glass remember!

be sure to come back now though, I would hate to think you just ran away after a little beating I got way more planned for you!

dude... what the fuck are you talking about?

LOL, guess the truth hurts so much that you prefer not to see it :)

pay attention dick, he made a shitload of comments based on my sig, which if I recall correctly has a fucking domains for sale link in it... so where is the fucking connection there?

temper, temper :)

Ha Ha Ha is lying the only theing you are good at? is that why the truth hurts so much?


I am talking about the sig you had when we started this debate, not the one you changed it too and have now... (it must of been the facts that made you change the sig eh?)


do NOT run down my constitution you terrorist from within, subversity will not work here just ask Bradshaw how far that got him.......