Is It a Mistake to Hire A Convited Rapist?
 

As many of you know Im a partner in ownership for a Resturant with my Cousin (artist formerly known as Exxotica)

One of our cooks has been a close friend to both of us in the past and throughout childhood. We consider him "FAMILY" to say the least. Without us he would have nobody. He has no parents, no siblings. We are it.

About 3 years ago he was arrested, and then after a 15 month trial CONVICTED for rape and assult.. (he insists he was innocent and it was all vindictive or the girl out to get him. To an extent we believed him)

To make a long story short, when he got out of prision I and my cousin hired him to do things like gallery reviews and submissions and other bone head adult related side gigs (like posting on GFY representiing the family as son of rage) and shit like that.

Well the heat got too hot when people discovered we had a rapist on board, he kinda shot him self in the foot with a GFY post telling all. So we pulled him out of our adult online business and made him a cook in out Mongolian Grill..

Hes been out of adult for about 2 years now. And our cook.

Well yesterday the Police come by and take him away.

Again Sexual Assult. It seems he really beat the fuck out of some gal he had been dating for 3 days.

I really dont know what to do. How can I yet again be supportive of this family member "SOn Of Rage" as you know him as here, when he has done this again.

Again bringing negative attention to another line of our family Business.

family or not the dude is fucking scum.. beating up women? please tell me your little "family" is better then that.

it's YOUR rep on the line.... why should we be the ones telling you what you should do? if you want to associate yourself and your business with a known and convicted rapist, that's your prerogative.... but if you want my advice, walk away from this as quickly as you can and disassociate yourself and your business with such trash

i've cut many 'family' off when they fuck up royally, or recurringly (is that a word hah?).... it's easier that way...

Ask Dubbya.

Family or not you have to draw the line somewhere, he has hurt your business online and offline. Perhaps he needs some counseling and therapy if he is willing to go for help.

If you keep picking him up after every fall he will not learn to stand on his own two feet. :2 cents:

Funny you say that.

He is from the Country you live in.
He says being rough is his culture..

And even though he was convicted he still swears he did not rape her. It was rough sex.

you gave him a second chance in life by trusting him and believing in him. theres nothing more you can do now.:(

Several thoughts come to mind, one was a recent post that suggested many (most?) GFY'ers have felony records, I certainly hope that's not true.

Despite someone's past record of a single event, if I knew the person well (which clearly you did) I would have also been inclined to hire him, but keep a close eye on him.

Given he just committed apparently the same thing twice, your friend definitely has a problem. You can still be a friend and provide some support, but there's a serious risk to fellow employees and yourself (financially). So I wouldn't hire him again.

One problem that's growing in the US is the large number of people who've been in prison. More and more employers won't hire them, yet they still have a need to support themselves. Don't have a solution to this.

son of rage = not BP4L

I'd hire him back as a stirrer. You know one of those people that stirs shit.

lol.. yeah rapist are known to admit they raped someone...

add 1 and 1 dude... (if that post is not a joke) ... this guy is a serial rapist.. or the most unlucky guy in the world... lol

Yeah Son Of Rage was bringing a lot of attention to the Family when I had him working our adult line of our business.

I hired him to post here on GFY a year or so back simply becasue his personality was so controversal and in some ways a real draw.. That is up until he started debating with himseld his problems with the law and justifying to the GFY people his convictions trying to justify them.

It was then that we pulled him out. People didnt exactly understand his justification to the whole thing.

Both him and "Trenton" had to be pulled away from GFY.
Both cooks at our resturant with strong personalities that I assigned to post here at GFY a year or so ago..

But now it seems like both of these guys are coming back yet again to bite us in the ass.

serious now:
I work in a Federal Halfway house with ex-offenders, and what I've learned is that you have to be strict with them to break they're old habits. and once they fuck up again in the program, they go back to jail (don't pass go, don't collect $200). Second chances are one thing, but third and fourth chances are another. Because he repeated his behavior regardless of chances he was given, I think it's an indication he can't/won't change. :2 cents:

If that's true it makes me wonder why you even have to think about what to do. I understand giving your friend the benefit of the doubt the first time, but the second time would be the last time he ever worked for me and the last time I talked to him as a friend. Despite the moral reasons, think about what kind of publicity you'd get if it ever made the paper that your restaurant kept hiring a convicted multiple rapist. They say all publicity is good publicity, well we both know that's not always true, that would be a disaster. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh

team him up with dirty d, make a site :321GFY

I would have kicked him to the door after the first time. Seeing as this is his 2nd time I bet it will happen again.

Felony records shouldt matter.
I Have a record.

And look at me. Im well respected and have paid my dues.

Nothing wrong with that. In fact I have 5 more months of my three year probation and then its all behind me. Way behind me.

I dont know if most GFYers have records, but I can tell you many of the BP4L do... The real BP4L, not the posers here that post BP4L in thier sigs around here.

It gives you street creditability. Sometimes its needed

I used to be a cook. Looking for any help?

Have you been accused of beating, stabbing or raping any women?

Better yet have you been convicted of it?

I think you do not have to give him a job to help him! he can work for a moving company (most hire people on parol ect). What he needs is some anger management and some counceling.
you can hold his hand without bringing down your own reputation

Your "Son of Rage" is a bit confusing.
After his posts about getting out of jail for rape (she asked for it) and you backed him up on that line of thinking, people responded very negatively on here about this "person".

Then you said he wasn't in jail for rape..but for shoplifting.
Then there was a general drift in the direction that "Son of Rage" wasn't even a real NEW person, but another one of your personalities.

For the record..what IS the actual identity of this person?

P.S. The reason I have doubts that this person is indeed "real" is that I find it odd you would "share" your personal business in such detail on a board like GFY. You honestly think that somehow that's going to improve your "public realtions" situation at your restaurant?

Well he didnt rape again.

He just battered this last one it seems.

She hasnt used the word rape yet.

Again he calls it rough sex..

But if many of you GFYers rememeber the past when he posted here, the last conviction involved a knife.

Anyhow, i hired him for a job in the back being a cook.. He didnt rape or beat a customer. I figured it would be safe.. Just as I figured having him post here at GFY a year ago would be..

That is until he fucked up.

Do any of you guys remeber his post?
Where he posted all the pics of him and the models at internext! It was classic. People loved em..

That is till he opend is mouth later about his views and him being victum to the justice system..

Then it all went down hill

I dont understand.

the only answer is to cut off his good hand.
if i found out my friend was convicted of rape and then charged with battery i would probly never talk to them again.

That's exactly what a rapist would say. :2 cents:

I though this was a kobe thread..my bad

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

A lot of you GFYers have met Ediwn aka Son Of Rage at the Vancover Show, The Portland AWE, and the Ia2000 from several years ago..

Here is a more recent pic though of him from a few months ago.

<img src="http://www.boneprone4life.com/hot/rage.jpg">

The definition of a friend is someone you would call for bail money. Post bail and be a friend but i would move him off the cook line and over to the next job.

Unless he is the norm in your place. I would assume you have more then one felon in that type of work.

i have no tolerance for men who rape, beat, or even talk down upon woman, so im biased,, i say no way dude

Well yeah.

Us owners are all felons.

But thats not the issue.

Even if they were wrongly convicted and mistaken for intercultural differences?

That's incredibly sad. I hope the best for all involved.

Tough call man! I understand that he's your friend blood whatever! But he doesn't seem to be making any effort on his part no matter how mant changes you give him!!

I have to call BULLSHIT on that. No offense to you BP. But for rough sex to end up with a rape conviction once is almost impossible to believe..

Again, he beats up and rapes a woman he has been dating 3 days, and tries to claim rough sex. Yeah, it's rough ..it's also RAPE.
:ak47: :ak47: :ak47: :ak47: die rapist scum

I'm all for giving people a second or even third chance.

however beating up a woman? has to be one of the lowest things to do in my mind.


Hopefully he will understand, this is not acceptable behaviour in our part of the world, and hopefully soon nowhere in the world will this sort of thing be tolerated.

Tough call man! I understand that he's your friend blood whatever! But he doesn't seem to be making any effort on his part no matter how mant changes you give him!!

How long before he kills someone?
How long before he does something serious against a close female friend?

How will you feel then?

You do not need guys like that biting your nuts. Get rid - And pdq.

Technically he didnt beat her.

He cut her.

that's really starving... the hell with my diet, im getting some food :thumbsup

So what about the girl that he beat up? What are you doing to help HER out.

I have to tell you man.....if I knew this girl, you're boy would be in big trouble when he got out. I had someone beat up on my sister once.....I flew to NY from LA and he woke up in the hospital with a concussion and two totally smashed knees. From what I hear he still has to use a cane (this was about 12 years ago), and he never saw the person that came up from behind him....:2 cents:

http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...highlight=rape

its old but this was the welcome back post.
:(

Dont hire him anymore just be a friend to him

this was the part that got to me. who ever heard of a convict saying they didn't do it?

obviously his lawyer fucked him.

:)

Everyone is innocent, right?? Fuck him where he breaths

damn that's a tough call.. I'm all about giving people second chances.. I can get over people screwing me out of money or lying to me.. I'm a forgiving person, but when you start talking about physical abuse of someone, that can't defend themselves, that's a different story.

I could see giving someone a second chance that was a convicted of a crime like murder or rape. Only if they did their time and they were a changed person, and sorry for what they had done.. Meaning they had learned their lesson and would never do it again.

Son Of Rage, didn't seem very sorry, and if he is what you said, he didn't act very sorry or as a changed person, when he posted here at GFY. He gave me the impression of someone that didn't give a shit about anyone other than himself. It also seems he didn't learn his lesson.

Personally I'd probably let him walk down the path he has chosen alone. You gave him a way out and he blew it, if you give him another chance, he will blow it again. If he ever grows up and becomes a man, sure give him a chance, but until that day I'd wash my hands of him. However if you still really want to help him, get him a shrink.

how many second chances can you really give somebody, one is more than most people would do, 2 is pushing it

He's a great worker though..

Should I fire him for what he does outside the work place?

I mean he very well could be wrongly convicted too.

say goodbye