64 Bit AMD seems to be the way to go over Intel P4 3.2 Ghz huh?
 

Im looking at PC's now..
Wondering if I want the

64 bit AMD 3400+

or

3.2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4


Looks like the AMD 64 bit way out classes huh?

Has the new windows XP for 64 bit been released yet?

b to the p homeboy

yeah there is a free open beta test going on right now...

Will the current programs like video editing software, photoshop and all the other programs in our PC's really function way better with this 64 bit?

Or is this 64 bit chip only going to benefit the new and specfic 64 bit programs?

open beta from Microsoft= oh shit my pc got fucked

shit..

maybe i should "excahnge" my sig for a new AMD 64 bit PC..

I didnt say "sell" my sig, i said "exchange" like a gift excange of sorts..

current software doesnt really take advantage of 64bit routines. its a tertiary benefit at best. For the coding to take advantage of the new routines is simple and could pretty much be done with patches and the like. Shouldnt be a long road..


Damn I'm drunk.

*sigh*

make sure you offer

"SPACE FOR LEASE FINANCING AVAIL BAD CREDIT IS OK"

:Graucho

Check this one out BP.

http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=32



:thumbsup

what does that mean?

You have to speak down to me here. I barely know html.

So what you are saying is the 64 bit is good, but with the current programs on our PC's this 64 bit technology isnt really gunna speed things up or help any?

So should I get a P4 3.2 GHZ instead?

Whats gunna make my win xp and my fucking video editing and programs work faster and more gooder negro?

Ii just blew a load

haaa!

Ok this is what im sayin.. This thing is a 2.2 GHz processor.
Intel has a P4 3.2 Ghz processor.

Can someone tell me which is faster or better for my programs..

- P4 3.2 Ghz

or

AMD 64 bit 2.2 Ghz

Im not familiar with the new 64bit AMD's but dont the 3.0ghz intel chips come with HT technology?
If so these are supposed to be very powerful allowing for very intensive programs to be running without any lag to other programs running because of its ability to allow for a single physical processor to appear to the operating system as two logical processors.

sounds like the shit to me...

any more info on AMD new gear?

gET A mAC

It means that until software is released that's specifically written for 64 bit machines you're not going to see any improvement over using a 32 bit P4. Who knows when there's going to be proper support for 64 bit for both the windows OS and all the apps you want to use.

I've got a P4 3.2 with 2GB DDR RAM and it just flies using XPPro, Linux and FreeBSD. I'm not really up with video editting but for other apps, and running some quite heavy duty scripts, it's pretty damn fast.

Hyperthreading and 64 bit are very different..

Even with Hyperthreading Intel Processors are still 32 bit.

From our testing, the amd 64's in 32 bit mode smoke the xeons.



Heres some stats that a buddy of mine did:

http://www.miguelito.org/openssl/

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...5_9488,00.html

and

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...8_9331,00.html

wrong;)

Totally wrong statement.

but is it faster than the new AMD 64 bit 2.2 ghz processor????????

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN WE ALL SHOULD BE OUT TAPPING SOME ASS?:Graucho

Feel free to correct me if you're going to actually provide some useful information, that's just the way I understood it from the articles I've read.

Ok geeks here is the test..

Which is faster running the programs we use as webmasters...


a. The New Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz Hyperthreading Processor
b. The New AMD 64 bit 2.2 Ghz Processor.

Pick one.

Is this 64 bit shit gunna make the 2.2 Ghz Processor magically faster than the Hyperthreaded 3.2 Ghz 32 bit Intel Processor?

Yeah yeah i know 64 bit is the future and all, but is this thing gunna put perform the P4 3.2 Ghz TODAY?

I would buy amd over intel. The mhz myth has always been explained better by AMD in testing.

I've got a server on the floor right here with dual opteron 246s, 2 gigs of ram, and a 3ware control with 4 s-ata 10k rpm raptors.

This benchmarked about even with our Dell quad p4/2.4ghz xeon, 4gb of ram and an adaptec controller with 4 10krpm scsis.

$8k CAD server versus $35k CAD server.

This thing flies. It's really fucking fast. Amazes me every time I do something on it.

I've never liked AMD, and have always been a big Intel supporter (current box is an Intel). However, my next workstation is going to be an Opteron (but I don't really give a fuck if it likes Windows or not, I don't touch that).

Agreed time to hit the shower and go clubbing.

:thumbsup :Graucho

You'll notice better all around performance with the AMD 64 with processor intensive applications.

If you're talking a word doc, an excel spreadsheet, posting on GFY, no you won't notice an ounce of difference.

Where you see difference is with apps like Photoshop, film production on your PC, and that kind of stuff that really puts a CPU to work.

see the graphs I linked to above. The basic gist being that there ie an improvement in comps in even the 32 mode opterons vs the 32 bit xeons. Its not much, but it is enough to look at.

BP: wait. Moving to 64 bit right now isn't worth it. Not enough apps that you would use are being recomp'd for 64 bits...yet.

2 quickest cpu's right now are:

1. Intel p4 extreme 3.2 $909 on pricewatch.com
2. AMD 64 FX-51 $720 on pricewatch.com


the intel chip is a xeon chip actually with 2 megs of cache its a little quicker then the 64 FX but not worth the allmost $200 extra me think :)

ok.. so in terms of servers it seems from what im reading many of you do notice a difference with the AMD 64 bit and the Intel Dual Xeon's


But what about in PCs?

So the jury is split I see.

They didn't just make a new Athlon with support for 64-bit instructions... The whole architecture is faster.

The new opteron-supportin motherboards have a faster bus, faster memory, faster io, etc... The processors are more efficient in both 32 and 64 bit modes... They are really quite impressive, even when running 32-bit apps.

The one I've got here, however, I'm running 100% 64-bit compiled code, and it screams.

Read my post above yours.

ok another question...

which one do you guys wanna buy me in exchange for my sig.

id go for the p4, the hyper threading makes a huge difference when multitasking, which most benchmarks wont show, and 64 bit it still unsupported

the intels are faster at video encoding/editing and the like, especially the EXTREME one with 2mb of cache

multi tasking or multi threading? BIG difference...

good point..

the AMD doesn have some frontside bus kinda thing?

it seems you are correct.

the adm chip has many other new features besides 64bit support...this is why you see the improvements accross the board...the 64 bit support isn't really important for typical computer use right now...

most benchmarks place the amd at the top due to these improvements...but intel's hyper threading technology is also very alluring...I chose intel for this reason...huge performance increases when running multiple applications simultaneously...something most benchmarks don't test...something gaming geeks and everyone else who really uses the chips to their full potential don't care as much about either. Running virtual servers on a single machine ( in my case), it's proven beneficial...

I can't imagine anyone really being able to discern the difference bw two similar amd and p4 equipped systems under typical use. I would say if you are looking for the absolute fastet chip under typical use, it's the amd...if you run multiple processor intensive applications simultaneoulsy, go for the intel.

ok now im reading that socket 478 for the P4's will be replaced sometime in 2004..

Thats nt good. Means in 2006 when you want to upgradee chips you are still stuck with 478 socket

well these tests show that for encoding (not even multi tasking)
that the P4 is faster!

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2003...-guide-17.html

Just go with a load Mac.

Thats the way I am going for my next desktop purchase.

ok i found my pc i want..

Now i need to figure out if I want to buy it or whore myself and see if someone wants to buy it for me