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Rictor 01-27-2004 12:43 PM

DRAMA - Don't do business with rawproduction.com
 
Last year, I posted here looking for some companies to shoot exclusive Asian content for me. Ganjasaurus contacted me and said his company could do this...$800 a video. So I sign up for 6 videos to try them out. I only ever got 5 before the company disappeared.

Now Ganjasaurus says that Frank at Raw Productions screwed him out of a lot of money too and that he's the one I should go after (even though he's not the one my original deal was with).

Frank L. Araiza
Raw Productions
(714)630-2787 Office
(714)630-2897 Fax
[email protected]

His e-mail bounces back and he seems to have disappeared. Anyone have any working contact info for him?

Anyway, stay away from Frank. The guy is a crook. Honest content providers are hard to come by in this biz. He is not one of them.

Juicy D. Links 01-27-2004 12:44 PM

6k

SGS 01-27-2004 12:45 PM

In on the 1st page

CDSmith 01-27-2004 12:45 PM

Dear Frank, please pay Rictor his $800 you owe him and clear up any possible black marks your name is about to receive.

Thanks Frank. :thumbsup

sixxxth_sense 01-27-2004 12:46 PM

thats just sad!

Rictor 01-27-2004 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Dear Frank, please pay Rictor his $800 you owe him and clear up any possible black marks your name is about to receive.

Thanks Frank. :thumbsup

I think the $800 he owes me is the least of his debt. He skipped town with a lot of money from what I hear.

igneus 01-27-2004 01:19 PM

whoa, that guy used to rent our back house hehe

axelcat 01-27-2004 01:21 PM

Thanks for the heads up

Babagirls 01-27-2004 01:21 PM

too early ........cant take drama right now...........

Morgan 01-27-2004 01:30 PM

Im still looking for Frank to serve him his legal papers. Richard has already spent thousands having all this prepared and now we are just trying to find him to serve him.

Ive been fucked out of tens of thousands of dollars and Richard got it even worse.

I take it that Richard never took care of that with you Rictor? I dont work with him but I will ONCE AGAIN email him and ask him to handle that. I was under the impression that you guys had squared that away.

What a mess.

Morgan 01-27-2004 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by igneus
whoa, that guy used to rent our back house hehe
where?? when?? are you sure this is the same person??

igneus 01-27-2004 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus


where?? when?? are you sure this is the same person??

yep, positive...he moved out like 5-6 months ago though...said he was going back to live with either his parents or his wife/girlfriends parents heh

im in costa mesa/newport beach

i guess that doesnt really help at all.. just kind of an interesting coincidence for me at least heh

Morgan 01-27-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by igneus


yep, positive...he moved out like 5-6 months ago though...said he was going back to live with either his parents or his wife/girlfriends parents heh

im in costa mesa/newport beach

i guess that doesnt really help at all.. just kind of an interesting coincidence for me at least heh

how did you meet him? do you know of anyone else he's ripped off?

I met a bunch of cool people through him that all eventually wanted to kill him. he prentended he knew all these people so well were such good friends but turns out they were all just other victims. I cant begin to tell the stories of how he's scammed and conned people, the list is too long. but all the people i met through him before are after him in a bad way. Now I am working with some of them trying to nail him.

Morgan 01-27-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by igneus


yep, positive...he moved out like 5-6 months ago though...said he was going back to live with either his parents or his wife/girlfriends parents heh

im in costa mesa/newport beach

i guess that doesnt really help at all.. just kind of an interesting coincidence for me at least heh

what type of vehicle was he driving at this point?

igneus 01-27-2004 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus


what type of vehicle was he driving at this point?

had a bunch

2 white f150s
red hummer h1
escalade
crappy little car, dont remember what it was
stretch limo..think it was an escalade

the f150's were the last they had

bdld 01-27-2004 01:54 PM

dang no wonder he had so many rides, scamming people left and right

Morgan 01-27-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by igneus


had a bunch

2 white f150s
red hummer h1
escalade
crappy little car, dont remember what it was
stretch limo..think it was an escalade

the f150's were the last they had

what city do you live in? how did you meet him?

i know his wife and brother both drove f150's. he had a POS H1. That crappy little car was probably his brothers. Stretch limo???? He always seems to know someone with a limo company, wonder who he's conning now? hmm.

Rictor, btw.... if we find frank or not. I am doing everything i can to help get you your money back. Just sent another email over to richard (once again). I feel bad for hooking you up with him, its basically the same thing he did to me.

Morgan 01-27-2004 02:00 PM

ive heard from a few people that he has tried to sell them MY swallowitall.com master tapes and releases. My whole paysite is out there somewhere and I cant even use it. Months and months of time and money. I have the content still on cd's but what good is it if i dont have the model releases. im fucked.

if this guy comes to you to try and sell you Swallow It All videos, please setup a sting operation.

igneus 01-27-2004 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus


what city do you live in? how did you meet him?

i know his wife and brother both drove f150's. he had a POS H1. That crappy little car was probably his brothers. Stretch limo???? He always seems to know someone with a limo company, wonder who he's conning now? hmm.

Rictor, btw.... if we find frank or not. I am doing everything i can to help get you your money back. Just sent another email over to richard (once again). I feel bad for hooking you up with him, its basically the same thing he did to me.

i'm in costa mesa, california next to newport beach

we had the house up for rent, he came and filled out an application and my parents (im not young, just a loser heh) gave it to him, hehe

Paul Markham 01-27-2004 02:08 PM

What amazes me is how often this happens. There are lots of honest content providers who will shoot you custom work. Mutt, Aaron, Gregg, me to name only a few.

All in business for the long run and able to produce a good job. But people will never stop trying out a new guy and taking a risk. Stick with the guys you know you can trust.

What was he shooting for $800 a video?

Morgan 01-27-2004 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by igneus


i'm in costa mesa, california next to newport beach

we had the house up for rent, he came and filled out an application and my parents (im not young, just a loser heh) gave it to him, hehe


are you on 15th? i remember he told me he found a place over there. i am in newport beach up at santa isabel and irvine avenue!


charly, i think it was just a 30 minute sex scene. i dont remember. frank was doing all the swallowitall.com videos for me. the site was partially his too. but not anymore. although he's still holding all the releases and most of the tapes. I also had a 2nd exclusive site started that we shot about 8-10 scenes for and he has all that shit too.

igneus 01-27-2004 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus



are you on 15th? i remember he told me he found a place over there. i am in newport beach up at santa isabel and irvine avenue!


charly, i think it was just a 30 minute sex scene. i dont remember. frank was doing all the swallowitall.com videos for me. the site was partially his too. but not anymore. although he's still holding all the releases and most of the tapes. I also had a 2nd exclusive site started that we shot about 8-10 scenes for and he has all that shit too.

yep im on 15th :)

Paul Markham 01-27-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus


charly, i think it was just a 30 minute sex scene. i dont remember. frank was doing all the swallowitall.com videos for me. the site was partially his too. but not anymore. although he's still holding all the releases and most of the tapes. I also had a 2nd exclusive site started that we shot about 8-10 scenes for and he has all that shit too.

A 30 min sex scene in Orange County for $800, does that not tell you something?

I could shoot it for that money in CZ, but will not becaues it's worth more on the site. Might of been possible though if it were just a BJ movie.

Buy on price and you get what you pay for.

Morgan 01-27-2004 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by igneus


yep im on 15th :)

what a coincidence....

but you never told me how you met him. please...

Morgan 01-27-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
A 30 min sex scene in Orange County for $800, does that not tell you something?

I could shoot it for that money in CZ, but will not becaues it's worth more on the site. Might of been possible though if it were just a BJ movie.

Buy on price and you get what you pay for.

it may have been a bj scene. either way, the quality was probably pretty good. all the videos he did for my site were good. ask rictor, im sure the other 5 videos he got were fine! i hooked frank up with a number of other people as well, noone ever complained. homegrown had him do a shitload for them and wouldve kept buying hadnt it been for him dissapearing.

igneus 01-27-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus


what a coincidence....

but you never told me how you met him. please...

i met him when he was moving in...he showed me his cable modem and wanted to know if i had the same one so he could use my install cd

other than that, i only know what cars he had because our trash cans are in back, heh

didnt see him much

Buff 01-27-2004 02:28 PM

1st Page.

Rictor 01-27-2004 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
Im still looking for Frank to serve him his legal papers. Richard has already spent thousands having all this prepared and now we are just trying to find him to serve him.

Ive been fucked out of tens of thousands of dollars and Richard got it even worse.

I take it that Richard never took care of that with you Rictor? I dont work with him but I will ONCE AGAIN email him and ask him to handle that. I was under the impression that you guys had squared that away.

What a mess.

No, after about 15 e-mails and a phone call, I sort of gave up.

Rictor 01-27-2004 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
What amazes me is how often this happens. There are lots of honest content providers who will shoot you custom work. Mutt, Aaron, Gregg, me to name only a few.

All in business for the long run and able to produce a good job. But people will never stop trying out a new guy and taking a risk. Stick with the guys you know you can trust.

What was he shooting for $800 a video?

30 minute blowjob videos.

Theo 01-27-2004 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
What amazes me is how often this happens. There are lots of honest content providers who will shoot you custom work. Mutt, Aaron, Gregg, me to name only a few.

same here

alan-l 01-28-2004 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor


30 minute blowjob videos.

800 for that? :eek2 I got exclusive BJ videos + photo sets for 250 bucks and got all 30 in one week no problem at all. Well, guess you'll learn. I guess most US exclusive content providers, and I mean KNOWN content providers will hook you with a better deal than that, why the risk if it even worth the money? :(

Fletch XXX 01-28-2004 12:02 AM

more drama than ER in this bitch lately.

:glugglug

PersianKitty 01-28-2004 12:04 AM

Why does the name "Raw Productions" sound so familiar? Somehow I thought Kman's company name was that.

Lykos 01-28-2004 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Dear Frank, please pay Rictor his $800 you owe him and clear up any possible black marks your name is about to receive.

Thanks Frank. :thumbsup

:thumbsup


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