Which is better circumsiced or uncircumcised?
 

So, which is better?

Is it true that circumcised men last longer?

isn't it obvious

definalty option 1

Circumsized. Definately.

you shouldnt have to ask

"Scientific studies" show that uncircumcised men are larger.

Yeah and nasty looking

if I was uncircmcised, I'd cry

http://www.nocircpa.org/4642.html

Ignore the Myths,

Get the Facts


The following cultural beliefs, or myths, are often used as reasons for circumcision. After each myth, some relevant facts are provided to present a more accurate picture of this procedure. Parents should understand the full implications of circumcision before making this irreversible decision for their child.

Myth #1: Circumcision is recommended by doctors and medical organizations

Fact: Circumcision is not recommended by any national medical association in the world. Fifteen national and international medical associations have extensively studied infant circumcision and its effects and found no significant evidence to support this practice. In March 1999, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) concluded that infant circumcision is not recommended as a routine procedure.1 The circumcision policy statements of the American Medical Association (AMA) and the American Academy of Family Physicians have concurred with this position.2-3 The AMA calls infant circumcision ?non-therapeutic.?

Myth #2: It?s just a little piece of skin, he won?t miss it.

Fact: The prepuce (foreskin) makes up as much as half of the skin system of the penis.4 It is an extension of the shaft skin that folds over onto itself, completely covering and protecting the glans (an internal organ) and provides the mobility of the shaft skin necessary for frictionless intercourse and masturbation. The foreskin has three known functions: protective, immunological, and sexual. It contains about 10,000 highly specialized nerve endings and several feet of blood vessels. An adult male foreskin, if unfolded and spread out, would be about the size of index card (3 x 5 inches), much more than a ?little piece of skin.? Many sexually active men circumcised in adulthood report a significant decrease in sexual pleasure and comfort because of the loss of sensitive nerve endings, skin mobility and natural lubrication.

Myth #3: The care of a circumcised penis is easier than an intact penis.

Fact: For the care of an intact penis, the AAP recommends, ?Leave it alone.? 5 No special care is required ? an intact child should have the external surface of his penis (and the rest of his body) washed regularly to keep clean. When a male is older and can retract his foreskin (which typically occurs by puberty), a simple rinsing is all that is necessary. 6 Other cultural myths about special cleaning procedures are just that ? myth.

Myth #4: Circumcision protects males from urinary tract infections.

Fact: Overall, urinary tract infections (UTI) occur at about the same rate in male and female infants during the first six months of life.7 Regardless of circumcision status, infants who present with their first UTI at 6 months (or less) are likely to have an underlying genitouninary abnormality. In children with a normal underlying anatomy, a study found as many circumcised infants with a UTI as those who retained their foreskin.8 The appropriate treatment for UTI, in males as well as females, is antibiotics, not prophylactic excision of the prepuce. According to the AAP, ?Urinary tract infections are usually not life threatening and are easily treated in most cases.? Breastfeeding provides some measure of protection against UTI during the first six months of life.9

Myth #5: Circumcision is effective in the prevention of penile cancer.

Fact: "The American Cancer Society does not consider routine circumcision to be a valid or effective measure to prevent such cancers... Penile cancer is an extremely rare condition, affecting one in 200,000 men... Perpetrating the mistaken belief that circumcision prevents cancer is inappropriate.'' 10

The American Medical Association, in a July 2000 report, states, ?? because this disease [penile cancer] is rare and occurs later in life, the use of circumcision as a preventive practice is not justified.? 2

Myth #6: Almost everyone is circumcised?I don?t want my son to be teased in the locker room.

Fact: The circumcision rate for males worldwide is about 15%. Even in the US, the only country that circumcises a majority of its male newborns for non-religious reasons, the circumcision rate is decreasing. According the National Center for Health Statistics, the US circumcision rate is approximately 60% (varies widely by region) and slowly decreasing. According to many intact males, the ?teasing? concern is vastly overstated. For many boys, genital status is neither an important issue nor one that is discussed. In the unlikely event of concerns later in life, at least the person can make his own decision about an irreversible body alteration that has no medical justification.

Myth #7: Circumcision is a simple and painless procedure? it only takes a few minutes.

Fact: While circumcision is a relatively quick procedure, it is extremely painful for the infant. The initial part of the process involves a forced separation of the foreskin, which is fused to the glans (head) in much the same way as a fingernail is joined to the finger. The AAP says the following about EMLA cream, one of the most common pain relief methods, ?The analgesic effect is limited during the phases associated with extensive tissue trauma?? 1 Although they cannot remember the pain as adults, circumcised male infants have increased pain response in vaccinations 4 to 6 months later.11 Circumcision appears to lower the pain threshold.

Myth #8: Circumcision makes the penis cleaner and more hygienic.

Fact: Circumcision removes the protective portion of mobile shaft skin, which is intended to cover the glans (head) of the penis. The glans is the internal portion of genitalia (for both genders). Circumcision artificially exposes and denudes this highly sensitive tissue, resulting in a buildup of keratin and a dry, densensitized part of the penis. And contrary to popular myth, more sensation does not lead tp control problems. Based on reports from men circumcised as adults, just the opposite is true. With more sensation, a man has better feedback and can better determine his proximity to the ?orgasmic threshold.?

Myth #9: Circumcision prevents AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).

Fact: Some studies show that circumcision has a slight preventive effect for these AIDS and STDs; however, other studies show an insignificant or opposite effect. Either way, the bottom line is this: sexual practices have a much greater effect on the chance of becoming infected than circumcision status. If someone bases their actions on the belief that circumcision alone will protect them, they are taking unwise chances.

Myth #10: The history of non-religious circumcision is based on disease prevention.

Fact: Non-ritual circumcision evolved from a misunderstanding of bodily function by physicians of the late-19th century.12 Many doctors of that era believed that a normal foreskin could cause disease and lead to increased incidence of ?self-abuse.? John Harvey Kellogg, of cereal fame, was a proponent of genital cutting as a cure for this ?horrible practice.? He recommended performing circumcision ?without administering an anesthetic, as the pain attending the operation will have a salutary [health-giving] effect upon the mind, especially if connected with the idea of punishment.?

This fact sheet is a presentation of the Pennsylvania chapter of NOCIRC (National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers).

References:

1. American Academy of Pediatrics, Circumcision Policy Statement - March 1, 1999

2. American Medical Association, Report 10 of the Council on Scientific Affairs (I-99), July 6, 2000

3. American Academy of Family Physicians, Position Paper on Neonatal Circumcision, February 14, 2002

4. Cold CJ, Taylor J. The prepuce. BJU Int 1999; 83:34-44

5. American Academy of Pediatrics pamphlet. Newborns: Care of the Uncircumcised Penis ? Guidelines for Parents. 1990

6. CIRP: Normal development of the prepuce: Birth through age 18. www.cirp.org/library/normal/

7. Marild S, Jodal U. Incidence rate of symptomatic urinary tract infection in children under 6 years of age. Acta Paediatrica 1998;87:549-52

8. Mueller E, Steinhardt G, Naseer S. The Incidence of Genitourinary Abnormalities in Circumcised and Uncircumcised Boys Presenting with an Initial Urinary Tract Infection by 6 Months of Age. Pediatrics 1997;100(supplement):580

9. Pisacane A, Graziano L, Mazzarella G, Scarpellino B, Zona G. Breast-feeding and urinary tract infection. Pediatrics 1992;120:87-89

10. Letter from the American Cancer Society (National Home Office) to the American Academy of Pediatrics, 16 Feb 1996

11. Taddio A, Katz J, Ilersich A, Koren G. Effect of Neonatal Circumcision on Pain Response During Subsequent Routine Vaccination. Lancet 1997;349:599-603.

12. Gollaher D. Circumcision: A History of the World?s Most Controversial Surgery, New York, Basic Books, 2000

It's understandable that a man who had his genitals intentionally mutilated as a defensless baby by the people he should trust would want to believe that it was a 'good thing' and come up with all sorts of defences for it; but I still can't help but disagree.

If you have a medical condition later in life that may require it, fine. But if it's just for bizarre religious tradition or because daddy wants his babys dick to look like his own, then that's fucked up.

This unneccesary surgery can go very wrong. When you see american men with strange bends in their cock, often this is a result of scar tissue from circumcision. I had a friend in high school whos circumcision was so bad it was painful and difficult for him to have sex. When his mother would yell at him for stuff, he would just pull out his dick and show her and scream "look what you did to me!". Sad, but funny.

LOL And circumsized is purdy?

It doesn't matter to me either way, hard they all look the same. The big saggy ball sack is what i hate. EW. Is there a surgery for that? rofl

I would never circumsize an infant, I think it's child abuse IMO.

I'd be more worried about a guy who shows his mom his dick

No. Duh!

It's not to late, go get snipped :1orglaugh

Yes, it's called a scrotal tuck.

They do it to infants because it is less painful when they are young, as opposed to letting it grow thicker as they get older.

circumsized males = 99% man

Why in the world would you be glad with part of your dick having been cut off?

http://www.topman.ca/common/potd/op_jpg_jpg_jpg.jpg

Yes

Serge was circumsised few years ago
he's a good person to ask :)


i still got my balls and foresin :thumbsup

Guys who are uncircumsized are bigger. :)

So all male babys should have part of their penis cut off,
decreasing pleasure and/or risking ruining their adult sex life,
just because a few guys are too lazy to wash themselves
and prefer to have their smegma rub off on their clothing?

Posting a pic of a woman who had never washed her vagina
would not be a valid arguement for advocating female circumcision.

decreasing pleasure? do you have a dick?

The only Myth that matters: Just as many women will put it in their mouth.
:1orglaugh

Circumcised ones are prettier and more fun to play with. I would be really nervous about sucking one that wasn't. BUT...

I think it's a bad thing. My son, my first child, was circumcised by my OB doctor because they neglected to do it in the hospital and the ring that they put on to hold the skin while it was cut off slipped and I had to sit for 4 hours and hold gauze on his penis because it wouldn't stop bleeding. They almost had to admit him to the hospital because of it. He still has a very odd chunk of skin at the bottom of the head. It was just horrible. I was so miserable and I know that he was 1000 times more miserable than I was. :(

http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/sheldon.jpg
Circumciser crushing off baby's foreskin with Sheldon clamp

http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/mohel-1a.jpg
Mohel sucking blood from baby's circumcised penis

http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/jenkins1.jpg

http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/post1.jpg

http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/post2.jpg

You sick fuck why would you post those pics:BangBang:
:321GFY

CamChicks, you're a sick littler whore

Good info NC...I am pregnant and if we have a boy, I will NOT get him circumsized. There is no need....once you start going through childbirth classes and shit, you realize all the crap they inject into you and your baby. Circumcision is one less thing that should be done to your baby boy.

I think CamChicks was trying to discourage people from having this done to their children.

hahahhaha, pro abortion anti circumcision.

now thats a good one

who gives a fuck.


raise your hand if your circumcised and wish you weren't

tootie, you must be ignorant or stupid
which one ??

Dont post child porn on this board :321GFY

I'm uncircumcised and haven't received any complaints from women nor should I.

I believe that as long as everything is kept clean and healthy then a guy should be left uncircumcised since we all evolved with the foreskin attached.

I want it back. I want to kill the doctor that mutilated me and removed more sexual pleasure from my dick. The fucker.


:ak47: :feels-hot :mad:

That' babies face made me cringe. I couldn't imagine getting something like that now

CamChicks- you're totally missing the psychological and emotional impact that it could have on a little boy in the US. I agree that it's not a necessary practice, but if I were to ever have a little boy (in the US) I would have him circumcised. I don't think the removing of his foreskin could be nearly as damaging as what he'd have to suffer from his peers, if he were uncircumcised. Kids/adolescents can be cruel. I would never want to purposely set my child up for something like that.

Because that is what everyone is talking about.

Like the "dog-abuse in china" threads,
pics speak louder than words.

People post gross pics here all the time, get over it.

Thanks!

all i care is, in my life time most women will always prefer it cut

http://www.bannerbabe.com/link/idiot01.jpg

Do you really think CamChicks was trying to do anything OTHER than convince people it's not good. Please. :321GFY

*checks watch* is it time for this thread again already? Okay then, I will step in and say what I always say:

I like both. My husband is one of the few cut British guys BUT I do have a weakness for sex with uncut guys.

I really do not understand the paranoia people - particularly north Americans - have about an uncut dick. I mean, I guess I do in a way since I grew up in that culture. The first time I slept with an uncut man I was a bit scared too. I was worried that I wouldn't know what to do or how it would be different than being with a cut man. Thing is, once the first touch happened nature just took over and there were no worries at all.

There are always three issues people bring up in these threads - appearance, hygiene and sensitivity.

As far as appearance goes, no doubt someone will post a picture of a uncut cock with really long foreskin and pretend that is the way it always is with uncut men. I myself don't really go for ones with excessive foreskin but if a guy I am with has a normal amount all I can think of is how much fun it is to play with the skin. The foreskin is silky smooth to the touch and because of the natural lubrication process that comes with having it in the first place it is fun to play with it (now you see it, now you don't) and watch my partner's reaction.

Which of course leads to the sensitivity issue. Simply put - giving head to an uncut cock is out of this world if you are the type (like me) that gets off on your partner's reaction. Listening to the intake of breath from an uncut man when you touch the head for the first time is amazing and amplified tremendously from the reaction you get from a cut man in the same situation. Uncut men are way more sensitive to delicate touches. Also, as the head of their dick isn't rubbing against something most of the day they tend to be smoother on the tongue.

The whole hygiene thing is only an issue if you have someone who doesn't wash and frankly you are going to know that before you get down to sleeping with them and a cut dick in no way guarantees a clean dick. I have never slept with an uncut man that wasn't obsessive about cleaning themselves - especially if they knew there was even a slight chance of them having sex.

By the way, slavdogg, I am SICK and FUCKING TIRED of being called an idiot and ignorant by people who have no fucking clue WHO I am or WHAT I do. If you have nothing better to do than to call someone that you don't even know an idiot then maybe YOU are the idiot. For all you know I could have an IQ 30 points higher than you, so don't be ignorant.

*GOOOOOOS-FRAAA-BAAA*

Okay, I'm calm now.

Now only 60% of boys born in America get circumcised
and the number is (fortunately) decreasing.

poor kid

haha, what a bunch of pussies

i got circumcised at 9 yo. and watched the whole thing.

On what planet ??? Not earth .. LOL

You need to go check your fact checker again there einstein :)

The question is flawed anyways.

Better to whom ?

Im not , and i could really care less, it hasnt affected me one way or another so far :)

My wife says she likes it, but then again she is a little biased :) I have only ever had one girl say anything negative about it, but then again would they ?

Anyways i like all those myths :) i never knew most of that .


I think gay guys like them uncut from what i hear.

I think i saw a poll of american women that said mosy prefer cut than uncut, but then again women dont know anything more than what you tell them , so their opinion is really useless.

Question - Why do women fake orgasms ??

Answer - Who Cares.

Damn people, lets all tell each other what to wear now too.

I kinda wish I hadn't been genitally mutilated. It's true, after 19 years of rubbing against my undies my dickhead probably lost a good deal of sensitivity. No wonder girls seem to have such better orgasms than us.

And smokey, his post was a joke(i think). He means the foreskin is the other 1% of the male body :1orglaugh

yes tootie, this is a good way to convince someone its wrong

my point still stands, you're still FUCKIN ingorant

but look on the brighter side, at least i didnt call you a sick whore :) :)