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Dirty F 01-08-2004 12:56 PM
So Bush pulled 400 weapon inspectors from Iraq...
 
Geesh, wonder why.

How come i cannot even find it on cnn.com? Guess they know what to post on the frontpage and what not.

Rich 01-08-2004 01:28 PM
Did you find that anywhere? I haven't read that yet.

Dirty F 01-08-2004 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Rich
Did you find that anywhere? I haven't read that yet.
I heard it on the Dutch news today...they also said it was kept quiet in America.

Honeyslut 01-08-2004 01:55 PM
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Bus...t&cop=mss&tab=

directfiesta 01-08-2004 01:58 PM
You are a hater ... LOL


It is not true!!! It is not on FOX .... or CNN .....

Oh shit, they are leaking this in Britain....

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US withdraws Iraq weapons team


The Bush administration has confirmed that a 400-strong team of weapons disposal experts was withdrawn from Iraq but insists their job was done.
President Bush's spokesman also stressed that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction continues.

News of the pullout came as a prominent think-tank accused the US Government of exaggerating the Iraqi threat.

The US and UK cited concerns over weapons of mass destruction to justify the invasion of Iraq last March.


News that the Joint Captured Materiel Exploitation Group had been withdrawn was leaked to the New York Times before being confirmed by the Bush administration.

Their work was done, officials quoted by the newspapers said.

"They picked up everything that was worth picking up," one official said.

However, a senior Pentagon official denied suggestions that the team had been quietly withdrawn, saying the last members left Iraq in October as previously planned.

They were there to search for a broad scope of conventional weapons, as well as weapons of mass destruction, including helicopters and missile launchers, the official said, and their mission was completed.

The Bush administration is also stressing that the larger Iraq Survey group, which is the team looking specifically for weapons of mass destruction, is still in business.

"The Iraq Survey Group continues to do its work," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters.

The experts' withdrawal has, however, given further ammunition to critics of the Bush administration, the BBC's Justin Webb in Washington says.

Re-think urged

That criticism has also been fuelled by a report by the influential left-of-centre Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, which opposed the war in Iraq.

The think tank said the weapons inspections process was working before the war and the Bush administration had "systematically exaggerated" the Iraqi threat.

The Carnegie Endowment also says that the Bush administration should re-think its flagship doctrine of pre-emptive military action against emerging threats.

Asked about the report, US Secretary of State Colin Powell insisted that Iraq had dangerous weapons and needed to be disarmed.

He defended the case he made to the UN Security Council last year in which he accused Iraq of possessing weapons of mass destruction.

"I am confident of what I presented last year, the intelligence community is confident of the material they gave me," Mr Powell told reporters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3380931.stm

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

OK, go for it:

" Yes, but he gassed his own people"
" He was behind 9/11"
bla bla bla....

directfiesta 01-08-2004 02:02 PM
and another finding :

Quote:

Iraq weapons report draws another blank

By Paul Reynolds
BBC News Online world affairs correspondent


The latest assessment of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction is scornful of the way intelligence was presented and goes beyond concluding that Iraq was not an imminent threat - it calls for an end to the US doctrine of pre-emptive war.
The report is from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a liberal think tank in Washington, which opposed the war, arguing that UN inspections should continue.

In its 111-page report, it takes the debate beyond the issue of Iraq into the question of how threats are assessed in the future and what the response should be.

Among its recommendations:

The US National Security Strategy should be revised to eliminate the doctrine of "unilateral preventive war" which it calls "pre-emptive war in absence of imminent threat."

An independent commission should be set up to establish a clear picture of what the intelligence community knew and believed it knew.

The head of the CIA should perhaps be a career post instead of a political appointment.

The UN should set up a permanent non-proliferation inspections capability.

Distinctions should be recognised in the degree of threat presented by different kinds of weapons of mass destruction.

The assertion that the threat of evil states and international terrorism calls for acting on the worst-case scenario should be examined.

Undue influence

Underlying the whole report and its conclusions is scepticism about the way intelligence was assessed and presented.

As far as the WMD were concerned, it concluded:


Iraq's nuclear programme had been suspended for many years. Iraq focussed on preserving a dual-use chemical and problem biological weapons capability but not on weapons production. Iraqi nerve agents had lost most of their lethality by 1991.

The intelligence community overestimated the chemical and biological weapons in Iraq.

Intelligence agencies appear to have been unduly influenced by policymakers' views. Officials misrepresented the threat over and above intelligence findings.

There was no solid evidence linking Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, nor evidence that Iraq would transfer WMD to terrorists.
Among the examples quoted of how officials went beyond the known facts to exaggerate the threat was a comment from President Bush who said:

"The regime was forced to admit that it had produced more than 30,000 litres of anthrax and other deadly biological agents."

In fact, the report notes, UN inspectors had commented only that Iraq might have imported enough growth media to produce these amounts, not quite the same thing.

This is an echo of the claim that Iraq had VX nerve agent. All that the UN ever said was that there was material unaccounted for. Iraq always said that it had been destroyed.

Violations

The assessment dismisses other claims - that Iraq had been seeking uranium from Niger; that it had developed unmanned aircraft to spray chemical and biological weapons; that it had Scud missiles hidden away.

It also plays down the finding of a vial of botulinum in a fridge, saying that experts had concluded that it was very old and not the most toxic strain.

But in one area, it does accept that Iraq was acting in violation of UN sanctions. It had developed its al Samoud rocket by more than the 150 kilometres permitted, albeit by only 30 km. The rockets were destroyed by the inspectors.

The report also acknowledges that Iraq probably intended to develop a 1000 km range missile.

This intention has been confirmed in an interview by the Washington Post with a leading Iraqi scientist, Modher Sadeq-Saba Tamimi. He said that he had made drawings of such a rocket which would have used parts from the al Samoud.

The Carnegie report takes its place among other assessments which have drawn a blank on Iraq's WMD.

The report which everyone is now waiting for is the conclusion of the Iraq Survey group, the American led effort on WMD carried out after the war.

It issued an interim report in October stating: "We have discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3380645.stm
Long to read, so not for everybody ....

Roger 01-08-2004 02:36 PM
We've known that for quiet a while because the guy in charge of the inspections is leaving to.

SCORE Ralph 01-08-2004 02:54 PM
I really dont get this thread... so what if the inspectors were called back? And it is on CNN.com, by the way, on the top stories section.

directfiesta 01-08-2004 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by aspwm
I really dont get this thread... so what if the inspectors were called back? And it is on CNN.com, by the way, on the top stories section.
Just can't find it:

http://www.ibillsucks.info/files/400cr.jpg


And the point is that calling back the inspectors, sfter finding nothing, looks like the US gives up in that search... It also looks like : we know there is nothing to find... as the other report from Carnegie Endowment for International Peace shows...

That's all folks....

theking 01-08-2004 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Battuss


I heard it on the Dutch news today...they also said it was kept quiet in America.
If what you say is true...then "Dutch news" is providing you with mis-information...as it certainly has been reported in America...and you should consider choosing a reliable news agency.

theking 01-08-2004 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by directfiesta
You are a hater ... LOL


It is not true!!! It is not on FOX .... or CNN .....

Oh shit, they are leaking this in Britain....

000000000000000000


US withdraws Iraq weapons team


The Bush administration has confirmed that a 400-strong team of weapons disposal experts was withdrawn from Iraq but insists their job was done.
President Bush's spokesman also stressed that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction continues.

News of the pullout came as a prominent think-tank accused the US Government of exaggerating the Iraqi threat.

The US and UK cited concerns over weapons of mass destruction to justify the invasion of Iraq last March.


News that the Joint Captured Materiel Exploitation Group had been withdrawn was leaked to the New York Times before being confirmed by the Bush administration.

Their work was done, officials quoted by the newspapers said.

"They picked up everything that was worth picking up," one official said.

However, a senior Pentagon official denied suggestions that the team had been quietly withdrawn, saying the last members left Iraq in October as previously planned.

They were there to search for a broad scope of conventional weapons, as well as weapons of mass destruction, including helicopters and missile launchers, the official said, and their mission was completed.

The Bush administration is also stressing that the larger Iraq Survey group, which is the team looking specifically for weapons of mass destruction, is still in business.

"The Iraq Survey Group continues to do its work," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters.

The experts' withdrawal has, however, given further ammunition to critics of the Bush administration, the BBC's Justin Webb in Washington says.

Re-think urged

That criticism has also been fuelled by a report by the influential left-of-centre Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, which opposed the war in Iraq.

The think tank said the weapons inspections process was working before the war and the Bush administration had "systematically exaggerated" the Iraqi threat.

The Carnegie Endowment also says that the Bush administration should re-think its flagship doctrine of pre-emptive military action against emerging threats.

Asked about the report, US Secretary of State Colin Powell insisted that Iraq had dangerous weapons and needed to be disarmed.

He defended the case he made to the UN Security Council last year in which he accused Iraq of possessing weapons of mass destruction.

"I am confident of what I presented last year, the intelligence community is confident of the material they gave me," Mr Powell told reporters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3380931.stm

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

OK, go for it:

" Yes, but he gassed his own people"
" He was behind 9/11"
bla bla bla....
FYI...there were 1400 members on the team...with 400 being withdrawn...thus the search for WMD's/info is still on going.

- AFN - 01-09-2004 05:35 AM
maybe some of them requested for a long rest because they have nothing else to search in iraq saddam was caugth and what else would they want for staying in iraq

Head 01-09-2004 05:41 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Battuss
Geesh, wonder why.

How come i cannot even find it on cnn.com? Guess they know what to post on the frontpage and what not.
Not suprising; CNN is owned by thre U.S government. Try BBC.
CNN is so censored!

Dirty F 01-09-2004 06:00 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by theking


FYI...there were 1400 members on the team...with 400 being withdrawn...thus the search for WMD's/info is still on going.
Duh, ofcourse they wont pull all the guys from there eventho they want to. It will make them look even more stupid. But we all know more and more people will leave coming months till theres like 50 people left who stay there just to not lose face completely.

Dirty F 01-09-2004 06:01 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by theking


FYI...there were 1400 members on the team...with 400 being withdrawn...thus the search for WMD's/info is still on going.
Oh man, i know you are not stupid so why are you making stupid comments like this while you know better. Defend your country fine, but please stay realistic.


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