Dont beleive it! Lensman CANT be shaving!!
 

the shit HERE has to be a mistake!!

he has WAY too much to lose playing like that, and he can make an easy killing just playing fare ...

doesnt make sense!!

Your argument that someone is too successful to cheat is a poor one.

edit - Nice asskissing too

not saying that.

just saying without an ounce of proof id be VERY hesitant to beleive such nonsense.

like i said, he has WAY too much to lose ...

Thats just some little dweeb that has to resort to photoshop because he probably has shitty traffic or was termed for cheating.

I'm still wondering where the proof is, the guy just posted a shitload of meaningless numbers.

no asskissing bro, i have NO reason!

i cant convert his sites for shit, never said more than 3 words to the guy inbetween bannings ... trully no reason.

just saying dont be so quick to beleive shit like this without SOLID proof.



:2 cents:

I dunno what to beleive any more , about anything .

What a fucked up industry

OK, your clarification is better.
But to say Lensman "can't" be shaving because he has too much to lose would be false.

This thread explains it all:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=218080

it really doesnt though lol

quick posting that (although i see your reasoning heh)

btw im too lazy, but someone needs to grab a screen cap of http://www.thieves.com/

lol

lens will have some fun when he gets in heh

where is AMP? partying also?

Apparently, he's busy avoiding Brad Shaw after all of the threats he made.

http://www.royalwhois.com/images/fu_lensman.htm
:disgust he posted that too... still doesn't prove anything

it's simply a zero frame of adult.com
he didn't actually copy anything.

he might get in trouble for libel though.

Proves he knows how to screenshot at least

Why even post in threads like this? Opinions from people with adult.com sigs aren't really relevant in these threads. Obviously you can't say anything unbiased, so you may as well stay out of it. :2 cents:

^ that's some bitch who sold his signature space and is now ashamed he has no choice but to promote a scam program.

Define 'solid'

The screenshots are the most solid proof you can have.
Due to the digital nature of internet affiliation, there couldn't be any better proof unless you hack adult.com's program and get the sourse code of their tracking software. Even then, you cannot prove the code is theirs.

The screenshots I provided you with are verifiable.
adult.com can veryfy their screenshot as there is our affiliate link on it.
ibill.com per courts request can veryfy ibill.com's screenshots.
I don't run any adult program and I'm not in adult business. I do traffic monetizing of my domain names, some of which I used to point toward sponsors.
Dumping adult.com doesn't gain me a penny. In fact I let them keep our account's balance of $200 for Jan 2004.

I don't care wether you learn the lesson or not, I guess an average Joe learns from his mistakes only. So, this info for smarter people, who learn from other people's mistakes.

Lensman will be taken to the court. Sooner or later we can find one of his employees who can be a witness in the case. If a guy stells from his affiliates, he probably scams his workers as well. It will take one pissed worker to ruin their scam network.

If there is anyone who have any hard evidence, contact me, I'm willing to cover all legal fees and expenses. In anycase this gay will pay off. Either in court or in loss of proffits.

Ok I missed something, where are your screenshots?

He showed screenshots of Ibill stats in August and September, then adult.com stats for this January. Not proof of anything.

I think his concern is legit. But he went WAY out of line trying to "prove" something.

I have seen shiftier stats glitches that have turned out to be completely normal.

I would have like always , spoken with the sponsor first and if my concerns were not answered , then i possibly would have voiced them.

Gimme the A
Gimme the S
Gimme the S
Gimme the K
Gimme the I
Gimme the S
Gimme the S
Gimme the E
Gimme the R

ASSKISSER :321GFY

We did try to contact adult.com and got 1 email answered by Hoax saying he has no clue why our ratious are low.
The funny thing is these fucks ignore most of our emails as like we depend on them. Proffits from their program don't make any big portion of our total proffit and we can buy adult.com with Lensman together if needed.

You own alot of nice domain names :)

How much do they cost?

Why would Lensman's programs shave? The extra change he could make from shaving is nothing compared to the income he will get from long term relationships with webmasters, a good reputation, and owning the biggest webmaster board on the net.

You can apply this concpt to every sponsor.
However, many sponsors shave. It is a fact. It cannot be denied.

Good luck with that. Being a moron, that is.

IMO, that concept can not be applied to every sponsor. How many sponsors own the largest adult webmaster board on the net? There are many sponsors that have much more to be gained from shaving in the short term than what can be gained in the long term.

i can understand his point
for the same reason i wouldnt shave on my program, too

but its different...
if i start a program tomorrow i am a small guy and need to get people promote my shit.. therefore i cannot risk being accused of such shit


adult.com is a big and establish sponsor
they shouldnt shave because once they are caught they have a big problem...


it woulndt be smart for adult.com to shave but this does not mean they dont

I guess it depends on your interpretation of "smart"...

Is it worth the risk of them shaving? Maybe not.

But if shaving can bring them in an extra, say, $5 million in revenue a year for adult.com, then would it be smart to shave? Maybe ;)

Bottom line, I do agree with your statement.

btw, I'm sure you haven't forgotten, but we have some link trades to hook up eventually ;)

it's clearly a ploy by perfection jeff to take the heat off :winkwink:

Lensman is not a cheater, and he never will be

Lensman is not a cheater, that is true. But he is pompus at times and he is an ass most of the time and I know he will vouch for that. I just hope he shows how much a winner he is and says, here is your dollar, now let me crumple it up before I throw it at your feet.

he will never be a cheater

:1orglaugh

I'm starting to feel the same way.

When a new sponsor opens up and everyone boasts about how much they make. How much are they really making? Everyone shaves. None of us can do anything about it!

What do you call relevant?. You haven't made an opinion regarding this twits lame accusations.Since when does what someone flies in their sig before they can comment on a thread? :321GFY And you don't dictate to what threads I respond in asshole.

What I find funny is how many of you think lensman is beyond shaving . He is human , even though he ownes GFY .

Im not saying he is .
I have a feeling like 90% of programs shave .
sickening really , what a shame .

The only one you can trust is your self .
Dump all programs and start your own shit . :2 cents:

lol

Look punk..your constant crying and false accusations are only makiing you look worse.You have to hide behind another nick.Who I sold my sig to doesn't have anything to do with it.

Take your non-sense elswhere stupid sigwhore.

if you have the cash or not, that statement drains any ounce of integrity in your argument.

sounds like a child talking lol

Seriously, why all the recent revelations/accusations of shaving lately? Know any factors/recent events this may relate to?

I am still in Las Vegas. I thought about this guy, and have am really surprised that he would say shit like this.

So his traffic stopped converting, there are a million factors for that. I have not seen his pages, anything.

This bullshit will be dealt with next week.

Niiiiiiice! :thumbsup

What do you have to say about this dipshit?
I knew you were a weasel scammer. Fuck You

:thumbsup :thumbsup Way to go Lensman! At least some people can show some class on the board.