This is what the CCBILL shaving thing shows you:
 

YOU ARE LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD

i know many guys here thought it does not effect them
they did back in the time with that dollar4 whatever program
they did when the PIB shit happened
and they did the rest of the times something like this was happening


MAYBE THIS shows everyone here that we are being shaved nearly everywhere

maybe the bigger guys do it better than the smaller ones do


you can barely trust anyone here when it comes to cash

exactly. i see a lot of people on gfy say "you can't trust anyone in *this* business"...but it's not just this business. i also work in real esate and it's just as bad there as it is in the adult world.

Or it could show you that as a %, it is pretty low. There are a hundred plus active ccbill sponsors and less then 10% shaved with that built in option.

I dont think this is a so big news, that option for paysites has never been a secret

This is bullshit ...
There are only few programs that caught ...
You cant blame ccbill .. This option were made for flat rate programs...

And fact that only few used it for shaving ...
I am sorry if you were fucked but now you can use ccbill sponsors and be sure that you are getting what sponsor promised

1) where did i say anything against CCBIll
i say now that i find such a rebill canceling feature TOTALLY MORONIC
i see no use in it ... you can argue about that with me but it wont help....
i think its stupid and the cause for this shit

but in the end they would have shaved anyways using a different tech

2) lol
i was not fucked by any of those programs because i did not promote them :)

3) i am now save promoting ccbill sites? :1orglaugh
CMON DUDE
GET A CLUE

thats the DREAM WORLD i meantioned

i wonder what the percentage of mpa sites that shaves. bet its a LOT higher.

I was talking generally :)

You dont see use in cancelling rebills?..
How program which is using ccbill affilate system , can offer flat rate payment and not reccuring without using this "shave" option?

And yes maybe its funny to you but there are alot of programs that dont shave and dont think about how to shave and dont think how to cheat webmasters they work with in any other way...

Your dream world can be real ...

I personally dont have a mission to make the most money as possible. What I make now is already Dream World for me Shaving may increase it abit MAYBE but I just dont practice dishonest relations with business partners ..

I honestly think I'd be frightened to see *that* list. It would be freaking huge.

lol

And now with this option in ccbill stats , if you promote the program which use ccbill's affilate system, you can be sure that program doesnt shave.

That's not true and you know it.

I've seen the inside of some affiliate scripts, you get shaved more than you even dream of.

Gotta say at the outset this shaving revealed by ccbill's new interface doesn't look good. On the other hand, out of the thousands of different sponsors used by all the affiliates on GFY, only half a dozen have been found to be shaving this way. I would say that is actually an amazingly low percentage given this option was available for every sponsor.

I'd also say it's way, way, way, way, way lower than the shaving percentages wit da sponsors who have their own affiliate software. They only have that software for one reason, and thats to get greater control. Included in that is control of shaving. You really think they can resist a few extra bucks ? Now that's a dream world.

Trust no one in business. No matter what business you are in, there is always someone wanting to bump you out of a few quid or take over your shit. TRUST NO ONE!!!

Maybe this is how american business built ?

I would say "ccbill's sponsors" are the most honest sponsors online!
:drinkup

And with the new tracking I might even make some $$$ with them.

i would say you are complete dreamer with no common business knowledge



but then again i am happy that people like ross, hyper and scooby know what i am talking about

although i think hyper should let me know some of his information regarding some sponsors :winkwink: